RP_Chaos_City_v33x - Developers

[HR][/HR] [B][U]About[/U][/B] [IMG]http://facepunch.com/fp/posticons/wip-posticon.png[/IMG] RP_Chaos_City_v33x is our version of RP_Evocity_v33x by "Sgt.Sgt" We're building this map for our Deathmatch RP server (DarkRP). [B][U]Screenshots (click for 1920 x 1080) [/U][/B] [URL="http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-00x2.png"][IMG]http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-00.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-01x2.png"][IMG]http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-01.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-02x2.png"][IMG]http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-02.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-03x2.png"][IMG]http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-03.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-04x2.png"][IMG]http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-04.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-05x2.png"][IMG]http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-05.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-06x2.png"][IMG]http://chaosity.cc/images/rp_chaos_city_v33x--chaosity-06.png[/IMG][/URL] [B][U]Current map features[/U][/B] - New city park - New huge bank - New condos - Local hospital - Local car dealer - Forrest/country/lake area (far from residential area) - Industrial/desert area (not a dead end) - Many miles of roads - The main city is not a dead end. There are 2 (will be 3) entrances/exits. - Most buildings from Evocity v33x are included [B][U]Future map features / To do[/U][/B] - Add residential area - Add mansion/VIP/admin paradise area - Add ghetto housing to industrial/desert area - More detail (especially in industrial/desert area) - Retexturing of buildings - Make the club more prominent and not just "a hole in the wall / wedged between buildings" - Improve/remake city more - Change Evocity banners to Chaos City - Remove a lot of props (players can do their own interior design) - Fix/redo elevator - Optimization - Misc. [B][U]Play[/U][/B] You can play the most current WIP version of RP_Chaos_City_v33x on our server: [URL="steam://connect/GMod.Chaosity.cc:27015"][B]GMOD.Chaosity.cc:27015[/B][/URL] [B][U]Credits[/U][/B] - Sgt.Sgt (Original Evocity v33x) - Cyborg (Mapper) [B][U]Other Information[/U][/B] - We'll be posting the latest map news to our website: [url]http://Chaosity.cc[/url] - Map size compressed 191 MB - Map size uncompressed 443 MB - Most textures used in map are embedded in map - RE: RP_EvoCity_v33x and vmf! [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;32139089][QUOTE=Batnutz;32116602]... But are we allowed to extract the content from this map and use it in our own maps and credit you?[/QUOTE] Yeah that's fine.[/QUOTE] [HR][/HR]

See to be honest, it is a good map. Only downside is that you used MOST of Sgt.Sickness' hard work.

Why did u edit this map or downtown? Just for you're DarkRP server? In all the time you have been editing evocity and downtown maybe you've done your own RP map.

Looks good man

Just make a fucking v2 of this map already instead of doing 33.x or shit like that seriously it is ridiculous how many versions of this there are

[QUOTE=Antec;36553634]See to be honest, it is a good map. Only downside is that you used MOST of Sgt.Sickness' hard work.[/QUOTE] Why is that a downside (not to mention that it's a WIP)? We're changing things we didn't like and adding our own things. Should we have just continued playing RP_Evocity_v33x, when Sgt released his vmf for anyone to use, and if we could improve it? [QUOTE=R@Rdeathmatch;36554702]Why did u edit this map or downtown? Just for you're DarkRP server? In all the time you have been editing evocity and downtown maybe you've done your own RP map.[/QUOTE] To make it better and for our server. We could have done a lot of things... we already spent months working on this. Neither of us are modelers or graphic designers and we don't have a year to spend on building a map from scratch. Why reinvent the wheel when we can improve it and make it "fresh"...? [QUOTE=MaddaCheeb;36554883]Just make a fucking v2 of this map already instead of doing 33.x or shit like that seriously it is ridiculous how many versions of this there are[/QUOTE] There already is an Evocity 2 (probably 6+ map versions of Evocity by Sgt). We want to also credit Sgt in the map name by referencing the original. Maybe it will also cut down on people saying "this looks like Evocity blah blah".

then say v4 and not "v3.3.1.7"

[QUOTE=-X-;36555427]Why is that a downside (not to mention that it's a WIP)? We're changing things we didn't like and adding our own things. Should we have just continued playing RP_Evocity_v33x, when Sgt released his vmf for anyone to use, and if we could improve it?[/QUOTE] Its a downside cause lazy arseholes like yourself just steal parts of maps, rearranging them and then add a few things and then try and say its there map. Whilst still giving the original author a [B]LITTLE[/B] bit credit when [B]MOST[/B] of the map is basically his that you are using? Why don't you just make a map from scratch? Gain yourself some credit like Sgt.Sickness and ThePro done back in there day.. They both have 2 of the most successful Garrysmod maps to date, most people may not like that fact, though it is true. They both started off like you and me, and got to where they are today with some [B]HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION[/B]...

If it is an evocity edit, why did you change it's name. Why not call it evocity rehash?

[QUOTE=IronPhoenix;36555691]If it is an evocity edit, why did you change it's name. Why not call it evocity rehash?[/QUOTE] Or piece of shit city, just like the original map.

[QUOTE=Antec;36555640]Its a downside cause lazy arseholes like yourself just steal parts of maps, rearranging them and then add a few things and then try and say its there map. Whilst still giving the original author a [B]LITTLE[/B] bit credit when [B]MOST[/B] of the map is basically his that you are using? Why don't you just make a map from scratch? Gain yourself some credit like Sgt.Sickness and ThePro done back in there day.. They both have 2 of the most successful Garrysmod maps to date, most people may not like that fact, though it is true. They both started off like you and me, and got to where they are today with some [B]HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION[/B]...[/QUOTE] You seem over-upset, but yea, this is probably the best advice -x- can get.

[QUOTE=Legend286;36555717]Or piece of shit city, just like the original map.[/QUOTE] shit city, bitch. shit shit city, bitch.

The best way would be if you create your own map, and you can name as you wish.

[QUOTE=Antec;36555640]Its a downside cause lazy arseholes like yourself just steal parts of maps, rearranging them and then add a few things and then try and say its there map. Whilst still giving the original author a LITTLE bit credit when MOST of the map is basically his that you are using? Why don't you just make a map from scratch? Gain yourself some credit like Sgt.Sickness and ThePro done back in there day.. They both have 2 of the most successful Garrysmod maps to date, most people may not like that fact, though it is true. They both started off like you and me, and got to where they are today with some [B]HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION[/B]...[/QUOTE] Stealing that what is free, public, and allowed by the original owner? As the first line below "About" says in OP, its[B] OUR VERSION [/B]of RP_Evocity_v33x [B]by "Sgt.Sgt"[/B]. Can it get more clear than this? Maybe if I bold "[B]Sgt.Sgt[/B]" then that would equal to MORE credit for Sgt.Sgt? We don't want to gain "credit" and this map is only for our server. This is hard work and if you're a mapper you should know that. 7 screenshots aren't going to show much. "...just steal parts of maps, rearranging them and then add a few things and then try and say its there map." No, months of work is more than "just" and not lazy. ([I]I tried to be nice... but you had to be a dick.[/I]) Why don't you build a map from scratch that is better than Sgt's / ThePro's. Instead of telling me how great [B]other[/B] mappers are, you can tell me how great [B]you[/B] are. All of this time you spent here... you could have been so much closer to that goal. Stop being a "lazy arsehole" and get to work. Or... just stick to [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1171106&highlight="]posting concepts of other people's work so someone else may steal parts of it, rearrange, and then call it their own[/URL] (and maybe even credit you in the process). [B]You hypocrite.[/B] Get your pencil out and start sketching. It's all about [B]HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION[/B]. And one day you too can be like [URL="http://www.fengzhudesign.com/"]Feng Zhu[/URL]. (Do you even map?) [QUOTE=IronPhoenix;36555691]If it is an evocity edit, why did you change it's name. Why not call it evocity rehash?[/QUOTE] Because it's not Gangsta's Paradise, it's Amish Paradise. :) Naming it Evocity is only going to add to the confusion, especially if it's not Sgt.Sgt's edit. [QUOTE=Legend286;36555717]Or piece of shit city, just like the original map.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'm a big fan of your not-so-shitty-rp_devcity and your not-so-shitty-flatgrass-but-with-water-so-flatwater-gm_oceanic

That hotel looks incredibly tall/boxy and out of place. Otherwise looks nice.

[QUOTE=-X-;36557089]Stealing that what is free, public, and allowed by the original owner? As the first line below "About" says in OP, its[B] OUR VERSION [/B]of RP_Evocity_v33x [B]by "Sgt.Sgt"[/B]. Can it get more clear than this? Maybe if I bold "[B]Sgt.Sgt[/B]" then that would equal to MORE credit for Sgt.Sgt? We don't want to gain "credit" and this map is only for our server. This is hard work and if you're a mapper you should know that. 7 screenshots aren't going to show much. "...just steal parts of maps, rearranging them and then add a few things and then try and say its there map." No, months of work is more than "just" and not lazy. ([I]I tried to be nice... but you had to be a dick.[/I]) Why don't you build a map from scratch that is better than Sgt's / ThePro's. Instead of telling me how great [B]other[/B] mappers are, you can tell me how great [B]you[/B] are. All of this time you spent here... you could have been so much closer to that goal. Stop being a "lazy arsehole" and get to work. Or... just stick to [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1171106&highlight="]posting concepts of other people's work so someone else may steal parts of it, rearrange, and then call it their own[/URL] (and maybe even credit you in the process). [B]You hypocrite.[/B] Get your pencil out and start sketching. It's all about [B]HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION[/B]. And one day you too can be like [URL="http://www.fengzhudesign.com/"]Feng Zhu[/URL]. (Do you even map?) Because it's not Gangsta's Paradise, it's Amish Paradise. :) Naming it Evocity is only going to add to the confusion, especially if it's not Sgt.Sgt's edit. Yeah, I'm a big fan of your not-so-shitty-rp_devcity and your not-so-shitty-flatgrass-but-with-water-so-flatwater-gm_oceanic[/QUOTE] Bro bro bro, you're doing it all wrong lmao Chillax, if you can't handle the attitudes, you just need to pick out the useful advice and discard the excess. Snapping and getting your tighty-whiteys in a knot will only make you look bad. Or, in your current state, worse. Why does this matter, you ask? Well, if you want to ever """"make it big"""" here, being known as 'that guy who can't take useful criticism' certainly won't help your cause. Yea.

[QUOTE=-X-;36557089]Stealing that what is free, public, and allowed by the original owner? As the first line below "About" says in OP, its[B] OUR VERSION [/B]of RP_Evocity_v33x [B]by "Sgt.Sgt"[/B]. Can it get more clear than this? Maybe if I bold "[B]Sgt.Sgt[/B]" then that would equal to MORE credit for Sgt.Sgt? We don't want to gain "credit" and this map is only for our server. This is hard work and if you're a mapper you should know that. 7 screenshots aren't going to show much. "...just steal parts of maps, rearranging them and then add a few things and then try and say its there map." No, months of work is more than "just" and not lazy. ([I]I tried to be nice... but you had to be a dick.[/I]) Why don't you build a map from scratch that is better than Sgt's / ThePro's. Instead of telling me how great [B]other[/B] mappers are, you can tell me how great [B]you[/B] are. All of this time you spent here... you could have been so much closer to that goal. Stop being a "lazy arsehole" and get to work. Or... just stick to [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1171106&highlight="]posting concepts of other people's work so someone else may steal parts of it, rearrange, and then call it their own[/URL] (and maybe even credit you in the process). [B]You hypocrite.[/B] Get your pencil out and start sketching. It's all about [B]HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION[/B]. And one day you too can be like [URL="http://www.fengzhudesign.com/"]Feng Zhu[/URL]. (Do you even map?) Because it's not Gangsta's Paradise, it's Amish Paradise. :) Naming it Evocity is only going to add to the confusion, especially if it's not Sgt.Sgt's edit. Yeah, I'm a big fan of your not-so-shitty-rp_devcity and your not-so-shitty-flatgrass-but-with-water-so-flatwater-gm_oceanic[/QUOTE] It's fine if you edit it and use it for personal use, just don't fucking post it here you idiot, this is for posting YOUR maps. Also unrelated, why on earth did you buy gold already? You just joined. [QUOTE=Pyth;36557441]Bro bro bro, you're doing it all wrong lmao Chillax, if you can't handle the attitudes, you just need to pick out the useful advice and discard the excess. Snapping and getting your tighty-whiteys in a knot will only make you look bad. Or, in your current state, worse. Why does this matter, you ask? Well, if you want to ever """"make it big"""" here, being known as 'that guy who can't take useful criticism' certainly won't help your cause. Yea.[/QUOTE] There's lots of [I] those [/I] guys

[QUOTE=Pyth;36557441]Bro bro bro, you're doing it all wrong lmao Chillax, if you can't handle the attitudes, you just need to pick out the useful advice and discard the excess. Snapping and getting your tighty-whiteys in a knot will only make you look bad. Or, in your current state, worse. Why does this matter, you ask? Well, if you want to ever """"make it big"""" here, being known as 'that guy who can't take useful criticism' certainly won't help your cause. Yea.[/QUOTE] Antec's hypocritical criticism wasn't useful and I originally politely responded to him. Yet, he felt the need to offend me and our hard work. I welcome useful criticism. "Build a map from scratch" is not an option I have and doesn't help me. This map is a work in progress and will be far from the original. [QUOTE=zach1193;36557472]It's fine if you edit it and use it for personal use, just don't fucking post it here you idiot, this is for posting YOUR maps. Also unrelated, why on earth did you buy gold already? You just joined.[/QUOTE] Is it? "[I]3. Don't post decompiled or edited versions of other maps without explicit permission from the maker of the original map. Otherwise, don't post other people's maps and claim they're yours. If you post someone else's map give them credit.[/I]" I didn't just join.

[QUOTE=-X-;36557870]Antec's hypocritical criticism wasn't useful and I originally politely responded to him. Yet, he felt the need to offend me and our hard work. I welcome useful criticism. "Build a map from scratch" is not an option I have and doesn't help me. This map is a work in progress and will be far from the original.[/quote] Like I said, pick out the useful stuff. If you need help finding the useful stuff, just say so, because I see some in there. [QUOTE=-X-;36557870]Is it? "[I]3. Don't post decompiled or edited versions of other maps without explicit permission from the maker of the original map. Otherwise, don't post other people's maps and claim they're yours. If you post someone else's map give them credit.[/I]" I didn't just join.[/QUOTE] Something not being against the rules can still be stupid and annoying. Me being a dick to people isn't against the rules because it isn't outright trolling, it's underlying trolling. Being literal like that isn't cute. And 'just' is a relative term. Compared to someone who joined today, you didn't 'just' join. Compared to everyone else who posted in this thread, you most certainly 'just' joined.

[QUOTE=-X-;36557089] ([I]I tried to be nice... but you had to be a dick.[/I]) Why don't you build a map from scratch that is better than Sgt's / ThePro's. Instead of telling me how great [B]other[/B] mappers are, you can tell me how great [B]you[/B] are. All of this time you spent here... you could have been so much closer to that goal. Stop being a "lazy arsehole" and get to work. Or... just stick to [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1171106&highlight="]posting concepts of other people's work so someone else may steal parts of it, rearrange, and then call it their own[/URL] (and maybe even credit you in the process). [B]You hypocrite.[/B] Get your pencil out and start sketching. It's all about [B]HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION[/B]. And one day you too can be like [URL="http://www.fengzhudesign.com/"]Feng Zhu[/URL]. (Do you even map?) [/QUOTE] People who don't map can have opinions as well. I used to work for Sega as a games tester, and most of the people employed were gamers, but they didn't nessecerely map or program or sound design. But they could still tell a developer what was wrong without knowing how ( in the technical sense) to fix it. If you came here, if you posted a wip map here, it means you wanted criticism. We are an honest bunch, and people only get credit if we think they are worth it. It is unlikely people will get praise for many things (fullbright boxes, detailless maps, rip off's of popular mappers work). Unfortunalty, whilst the map looks nice, we know that most of the work you did not do, it's an edit. And making an edit of a map is like taking a whale, sticking a few stickers on it, then claiming it is an entirely new species. It isn't, it's a whale with some stickers on. What the mapping community needs is new niche maps, not rehashes of old ones.

[QUOTE=-X-;36557089][B]Stop being a "lazy arsehole" and get to work.[/b][/QUOTE] I'm sorry but this was the best part of the whole post you made.. Yeah I will.. When I finish working full-time, spending time with my family and friends and developing a mod with a team of people :smile: [QUOTE=-X-;36557870]Antec's hypocritical criticism wasn't useful and I originally politely responded to him. Yet, he felt the need to [B]offend me and our hard work.[/B] I welcome useful criticism. "Build a map from scratch" is not an option I have and doesn't help me. This map is a work in progress and will be far from the original.[/QUOTE] Yeah... Forgot that Copying and Pasting is hard work now a days :v:

[QUOTE=-X-;36557870]Antec's hypocritical criticism wasn't useful and I originally politely responded to him. Yet, he felt the need to offend me and our hard work. I welcome useful criticism. "Build a map from scratch" is not an option I have and doesn't help me. This map is a work in progress and will be far from the original. Is it? "[I]3. Don't post decompiled or edited versions of other maps without explicit permission from the maker of the original map. Otherwise, don't post other people's maps and claim they're yours. If you post someone else's map give them credit.[/I]" I didn't just join.[/QUOTE] 21 posts is pretty damn new, and considering you joined 3 months ago, yea... But anyways, since you think you've been here long enough, like pyth said, you should know there are some generally unaccepted things in here. and it would be much different if you just used like one of sgt's buildings in your whole huge awesome map... however, this isn't your huge awesome map. this is sgt's map with some of your "modifications"

[QUOTE=zach1193;36562779]21 posts is pretty damn new, and considering you joined last month, yea... But anyways, since you think you've been here long enough, like pyth said, you should know there are some generally unaccepted things in here. and it would be much different if you just used like one of sgt's buildings in your whole huge awesome map... however, this isn't your huge awesome map. this is sgt's map with some of your "modifications"[/QUOTE] March to June =/= 1 Month

Looks very good. Subscribed.

[QUOTE=VIOLATION_SNG;36562964]March to June =/= 1 Month[/QUOTE] oh jeez, now I feel silly, I read may. still though my point stands.

[QUOTE=Pyth;36558363]Something not being against the rules can still be stupid and annoying. Me being a dick to people isn't against the rules because it isn't outright trolling, it's underlying trolling. Being literal like that isn't cute. And 'just' is a relative term. Compared to someone who joined today, you didn't 'just' join. Compared to everyone else who posted in this thread, you most certainly 'just' joined.[/QUOTE] Not that it matters, I've been here since 2009. "Cuteness" is subjective and it very much depends on what side of it your on. My critisim was objective and backed up with "facts." I found my literalness to be quite "cute." :dance: [QUOTE=IronPhoenix;36561242]People who don't map can have opinions as well. I used to work for Sega as a games tester, and most of the people employed were gamers, but they didn't nessecerely map or program or sound design. But they could still tell a developer what was wrong without knowing how ( in the technical sense) to fix it. If you came here, if you posted a wip map here, it means you wanted criticism. We are an honest bunch, and people only get credit if we think they are worth it. It is unlikely people will get praise for many things (fullbright boxes, detailless maps, rip off's of popular mappers work). Unfortunalty, whilst the map looks nice, we know that most of the work you did not do, it's an edit. And making an edit of a map is like taking a whale, sticking a few stickers on it, then claiming it is an entirely new species. It isn't, it's a whale with some stickers on. What the mapping community needs is new niche maps, not rehashes of old ones.[/QUOTE] Saying "start over and build one from scratch" isn't useful criticism. Most of the map isn't and won't be the same. Most of his building will remain (along with our new ones). Over 2/3 of the map is brand new and a lot more is going to be done. [QUOTE=Antec;36561266]I'm sorry but this was the best part of the whole post you made.. Yeah I will.. When I finish working full-time, spending time with my family and friends and developing a mod with a team of people :smile: Yeah... Forgot that Copying and Pasting is hard work now a days :v:[/QUOTE] We're not much different. I work full-time, I have a family and friends, and I'm developing a GMod server with a friend. :smile: Neither of us (you and me) has a year of time to spend, all of the skills nessessary to build something from scratch (and if we did, the textures aren't from scratch... where do you draw the line?), nor the desire. No need to copy and paste if you leave the vmf the way it is and just rename the map! :v: 2/3rds of the whole map was built by hand (and still 1.5 large areas to build and work on city) and there is still a lot to do. Just the massive walkable rock formation (displacements) are days of work. Do me a favor, check it out and give me valid critisim. I want it/it will a better evocity v33x (I don't know about the size... I hope GMod can handle it!). Sorry for the harsh words yesterday (well deserved? :wink: ). [QUOTE=zach1193;36562779]21 posts is pretty damn new, and considering you joined 3 months ago, yea... But anyways, since you think you've been here long enough, like pyth said, you should know there are some generally unaccepted things in here. and it would be much different if you just used like one of sgt's buildings in your whole huge awesome map... however, this isn't your huge awesome map. this is sgt's map with some of your "modifications"[/QUOTE] Not that it matters, I've been here since 2009. 2/3rds of the map is brand new (so far). I've said it before, we love Evocity v33x, and we want to give it a makeover (middle before one is Evocity v33x). [IMG]http://chaosity.cc/images/extreme-makeover-winners-before-after-photo1.jpg[/IMG] (maybe years down the road there will be just "one of sgt's buildings." It is what is, whether you/anyone else accept it or not. This is what we set out to accomplish. Of course leave valid feedback/criticism! :smile:

And still, you don't just see that we're only advising what's best for your future mapping 'career'. This isn't a fight for you to 'prove yourself', it's honest criticism. Or, as you seem to like spelling it, 'critisim'. Anyway, we've tried to boost you away from the generic pack of map editers and raise you to become a map creator who can actually have a sense of credibility, but you clearly don't want that kind of future.

How do you "Deathmatch RP" anyways? And more importantly, how do you do it in such a big map?

Even though -X-'s defense isn't even good in the first place... That picture you posted in your last post literally kills any bit of credibility to your side of this, not to mention the fact that you ended on "Of course leave valid feedback/criticism!", which is what everyone did and you threw a fit. My criticism, like everyone else's, is that it's just another generic Evocity edit. There's nothing particularly special about it. It doesn't stand out at all. What the RP community needs is not a nother Evocity map, but a new map with a unique, fresh look that makes people want to play it, not just editing a current map to be "unique" for your server and using your "own" version of DarkRP/PERP/TacoScript/Whatever.

[QUOTE=-X-;36567498] Saying "start over and build one from scratch" isn't useful criticism. Most of the map isn't and won't be the same. Most of his building will remain (along with our new ones). Over 2/3 of the map is brand new and a lot more is going to be done. [/QUOTE] So most of the map will be brand new, but most of the map will be sgt sgt's. Is it just me, or does that make no sense?