dm_warehouse, CS:S map. ( I think it's bad, TBH. ) - Developers

I have made a map for CS:S, named DM Warehouse, it's basically a tiny, shit warehouse ( I think it's not good at all, worse than that ORANGE map I was working on.) I have showed a few friends, and they said it was fine, I am not so good at mapping, and please give constructive criticism, [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=901495"]I don't want this to turn out like that piece of shit orange thread that you dickheads wrecked.[/URL] Anyway, screenies: [IMG]http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr254/343N/dm_warehouse0002-1.jpg?t=1274002444[/IMG] [IMG]http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr254/343N/dm_warehouse0001-1.jpg?t=1274002419[/IMG] [IMG]http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr254/343N/dm_warehouse0004-1.jpg?t=1274002445[/IMG] And yes, it's low fps because I put the AA to 16xCSAA, my computer ain't too good with that

[QUOTE=343N;21979608]I think it's bad[/QUOTE] Don't clutter the forums with it then. If you're not happy with it, don't post until you are. [editline]10:42AM[/editline] And calling us dickheads because you're talentless isn't the way to get on with people around here.

Well, I did want some criticism though.

Light is too yellow. Textures are highly repetitive. The entire map is blocky as a block can be. The textures are ugly. Walls randomly vary in thickness. Props are randomly set in the map, and serve no purpose. There don't seem to be any entrances or exits to the room, so how those barrels got there in the first place, is a mystery. Only post a map YOU are happy with. You can't expect others to like it, if you don't like it yourself.

Fuck. But my friends said it was fine.

[QUOTE=343N;21979791]Fuck. But my friends said it was fine.[/QUOTE] Friends tend to be too nice about maps. It's like why you shouldn't test your own maps. If you are not happy with it, don't release it until you are.

Mabye you should add something that you can hide behind instead of a big open area?

Compile your map with -final to get rid of the yellow + black squares. You need to work alot on detail. If its a warehouse, make it look like a warehouse. [img]http://todaysfacilitymanager.com/facilityblog/wp-content/uploads/warehouse.jpg[/img]

The ceiling looks like a giant mattress

Since you're mapping for CS:S, don't take any opinions from CS:S players seriously. Most CS:S players think this is what a great map looks like: [IMG]http://foxtrot.fpsbanana.com/ss/maps/10111a.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://dog.fpsbanana.com/ss/maps/177816.jpg[/IMG] God damnit I hate CS:S players.

Yeah sucks, Could make that map in a minute.

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[QUOTE=Cruma;21984469]Since you're mapping for CS:S, don't take any opinions from CS:S players seriously. Most CS:S players think this is what a great map looks like: [IMG_thumb]http://foxtrot.fpsbanana.com/ss/maps/10111a.jpg[/IMG_thumb] God damnit I hate CS:S players.[/QUOTE] And that map's gameplay is worse than its design. The laggy props everywhere make flawless barricades. I kinda feel like making a zombie mod map now, just because you reminded me of how low their standards are.

[QUOTE=Cruma;21984469]Since you're mapping for CS:S, don't take any opinions from CS:S players seriously. Most CS:S players think this is what a great map looks like: [IMG_thumb]http://dog.fpsbanana.com/ss/maps/177816.jpg[/IMG_thumb] God damnit I hate CS:S players.[/QUOTE] I remember that from one of Ph0ne's "trolling" videos

Okay, it sucks. I get the point. [editline]05:33PM[/editline] Oh and my previous map, has actually been youtubed, I'm quite happy about it, but I might update it, and add more detail. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQEo0gUsACs[/media] [editline]05:35PM[/editline] I'm going to fix the holes, too, and get rid of them lights, in that glass chamber. That map was made over a year ago. I reckon, I had more potential back then, rather than now.

Why dont you try make a good looking map rather than these CS:S pieces of shit. Try mapping for L4D if you own it, that's really fun to map for.

[QUOTE=Livewire123;22022271]Why dont you try make a good looking map rather than these CS:S pieces of shit. Try mapping for L4D if you own it, that's really fun to map for.[/QUOTE] Don't call my maps a piece of shit then, CRITICISM! No, I don't own L4D.

It was criticism. Maybe not constructive, but it was indeed criticism.

If you don't own L4D try mapping for HL2 EP2 if you don't have that then just HL2, if you don't have that just use HL2DM, free if you got an nvidea card

Wait, so you call your map shit yourself but you get mad when other people call it shit? Hmm.. Too blocky, horrible textures and unbelievably horrible ceiling. This map receives... -10/10 points for awesomeness

I don't understand why peopel would want to map for CS:S. CS:S players are either 12 or 16, have no friends and think it's "a game for real men" (or some shit like that) therefore have no idea what a vagina or a good map looks like. [editline]06:19PM[/editline] I'm gonna be real honest here. You're probably gonna flame me or ignore me - I don't care; at the end of the day it's you that's missing out. The map's terrible. It's hideously blocky, the walls are too high, it has no purpose and the texturing is fucking horrible. I intended to give you some pointers on how to make your map better, maybe suggest a different layout, perhaps draw a digram of a balanced yet simple map, but I really, [I]really[/I] can't. Your mapping isn't the worst I've seen, but it is far from the best - and when I saw far, I mean [I]really[/I] far. This is [url=http://www.youtube.com/user/cruckz#g/a]Cruckz[/url]. He helped me get started when I began mapping. He will teach you the bare basics. I'm suggesting him as I think you really need to start again. Next, we've got Facepunch's very own [url=http://www.youtube.com/Mappingfiregod]Firegod[/url]. He's goes into slightly more detail on slightly more advanced things than Cruckz. His tutorials are particularly good as if you have some questions, you can easily contact him on both FP and Steam. This is [url=http://www.youtube.com/user/3kliksphilip]someone I can't name because he spends all day googling his name until someone mentions him, giving him an opportunity to piss them off[/url]. Never follow his tutorials. They're terrible. He's also a massively annoying douche and admitted to being a troll. Once you've watched some of these, play around in hammer, experiment, ignore your apparently retarded friends, make some test maps and for god's sake, don't release anything. Don't even post screenshots. Assuming you're not retarded you will be able to see whether your map sucks - you don't need us to tell you.