Map Lag

[Reason4life]

Well i finished my first map.

Everything works perfectly fine, all doors, lighting, my skybox, etc.

The problem is that the map is extremely laggy.

When your in the map you load The entire map, everything in the map. I tried adding hidden/skip portions and that didnt help at all.

What am i doing wrong?

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Well thanks for help everyone, they pointed out a few problems.

Since i had multiple leaks, for me to find out where, i just make a dark box around the map and put bright lights everywhere. Then i went inside the box after compiling and saw where the light was coming through.

Thanks for help though.

[robmaister12]

is VIS set to Normal?

[Reason4life]

Yes its set to Normal.

[robmaister12]

Did you happen to drag a huge func_viscluster over the entire map?

Can you see every part of the map when you type in "mat_wireframe 1" to the in-game console? (without quotes)

[Reason4life]

No to the func_viscluster

And yes to Mat_wireframe

[editline]08:11AM[/editline]

I started to add areaportals to all doorways and windows. No difference yet since i have nothing inside.

[gerbile4]

Are you using many flickering\changing lights?

[Firegod522]

[url]http://rvanhoorn.ruhosting.nl/optimization.php?chapter=intro[/url]

[editline]07:51AM[/editline]

Also take a pic of what your map looks like with mat_wireframe on.

[gerbile4]

snip snip snip.

By the way OP, give us some pictures to look at of your map, in hammer and ingame, and like firegod said with wireframe on.

[Reason4life]

Sorry i couldnt post picture of wireframe in-game. Once i enabled wireframe, it instantly crashed Gmod. I tried 3 times.

But heres the pics in hammer.

[url]http://img412.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=32133584.jpg[/url]

[Firegod522]

What the fuck why do you have a random hint brush going across the map like that?

I would try adding in fog with a far z clip plane.

[kukiric]

It might have leaked.

[Reason4life]

Thats what ive been thinking, That there might be a leak. But if there is, i have no idea where. Any idea on how i can find it? And ill try the fog thing now.

[Firegod522]

Map> Load point file. If you see a red line, follow it to the hole. entities, props, brush entities, displacements, and water do not fill the hole.

[Lord Ned]

It's not "If you see a red line". If it asks you to pick a point file, there is no leak. If it doesn't, there is a leak and you need to [b]find[/b] the red line.

[Reason4life]

It asked me, shows no red line.

[editline]02:47AM[/editline]

Well i double checked, and i purposely made a hole and used load point file, and did the same thing.

Its not showing me any red line, or anything at all.

[Zanarias]

Uh, you compiled first right?

[robmaister12]

post the compile log, VBSP isn't writing a new bsp because of some other error (I'm betting he's got something really close to the edge of the grid)

[Reason4life]

Fog didnt help, and no nothing close to edge, ill post it in a a second.

And how the hell else can i play the map if i didnt compile it?

[editline]04:36AM[/editline]

[QUOTE]

materialPath: c:\program files\steam\steamapps\sexyfish1\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\materials
Loading C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\Desktop\VMF\Thed3vinetest2.vmf
Can't find surfaceprop stone for material DE_TIDES/TIDES_FLOOR_STONE_2, using default
Could not locate 'GameData' key in c:\program files\steam\steamapps\sexyfish1\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\gameinfo.txt
Patching WVT material: maps/thed3vinetest2/concrete/blendbunk_conc01_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/thed3vinetest2/concrete/blendconcretedebris001a_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/thed3vinetest2/concrete/blendroad_broken01_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/thed3vinetest2/de_dust/groundsand_blend_wvt_patch
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10**** leaked ****
Entity func_button (1038.16 1774.91 -510.25) leaked!

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (3498.0 4096.0 2071.0)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (3498.0 4096.0 710.0)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (4010.0 4096.0 758.5)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (3584.0 5120.0 758.5)
Leaf 0 contents:
Leaf 1 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (4096.0 4608.0 758.5)
Leaf 0 contents:
Leaf 1 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (2060.0 4096.0 -188.0)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (2204.0 4096.0 -218.0)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (2534.0 4096.0 -188.0)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

*** Suppressing further FindPortalSide errors.... ***
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (1)
Chop Details...done (0)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 364 detail faces...done (0)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (6)
Creating default LDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
skybox/sky_borealis01*.vmt
! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Creating default HDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
skybox/sky_borealis01*.vmt
! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (2) (1891866 bytes)
Error! prop_static using model "models/props_c17/bench01a.mdl", which must be used on a dynamic entity (i.e. prop_physics). Deleted.
Error loading studio model "models/props_c17/bench01a.mdl"!
Error! To use model "models/props_combine/breenconsole.mdl"
with prop_static, it must be compiled with $staticprop!
Error loading studio model "models/props_combine/breenconsole.mdl"!
Error! prop_static using model "models/props_c17/furniturecouch001a.mdl", which must be used on a dynamic entity (i.e. prop_physics). Deleted.
Error loading studio model "models/props_c17/furniturecouch001a.mdl"!
Error! prop_static using model "models/props_interiors/furniture_couch01a.mdl", which must be used on a dynamic entity (i.e. prop_physics). Deleted.
Error loading studio model "models/props_interiors/furniture_couch01a.mdl"!
Error! prop_static using model "models/props_interiors/furniture_couch02a.mdl", which must be used on a dynamic entity (i.e. prop_physics). Deleted.
Error loading studio model "models/props_interiors/furniture_couch02a.mdl"!
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Water found with no water_lod_control entity, creating a default one.
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 8734 texinfos to 4352
Reduced 618 texdatas to 483 (24466 bytes to 20721)
Writing C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\Desktop\VMF\Thed3vinetest2.bsp
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reading c:\documents and settings\hp_administrator\desktop\vmf\Thed3vinetest2.bsp
reading c:\documents and settings\hp_administrator\desktop\vmf\Thed3vinetest2.prt
LoadPortals: couldn't read c:\documents and settings\hp_administrator\desktop\vmf\Thed3vinetest2.prt

[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[48 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\documents and settings\hp_administrator\desktop\vmf\Thed3vinetest2.bsp
No vis information, direct lighting only.
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WARNING: light_spot at (-1976 -1334 312) has outer angle larger than 90 degrees! Clamping to 90...
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[/QUOTE]

[editline]04:39AM[/editline]

And yes, you dont need to mention about the area portals or the props.

[robmaister12]

You have a leak in your map. Load Pointfile should load something... but make sure there isn't any entities or brushes floating around in the void.

[SnakeFace]

Too many light styles on face is a fatal error if I remember correctly, you should fix that and the other errors in there.

[Reason4life]

How do i check where they are?

[editline]09:14PM[/editline]

How do i get to these points theyre giving me in the log?

[Firegod522]

View> Go to coordinates

[Reason4life]

Well thanks for help everyone, they pointed out a few problems.

Since i had multiple leaks, for me to find out where, i just make a dark box around the map and put bright lights everywhere. Then i went inside the box after compiling and saw where the light was coming through.

Thanks for help though.

[JustGam3r]

What are VIS? I am a noob, and I would like to lean some HDR and stuff. I heard you can reduce lag by not rendering textures and walls when you arent looking at it.

[Firegod522]

In layman's terms VVis is the compile tool that tells the game which areas can see what.