We all know valve is very good at keeping secrets and letting little things slide to get us all pumped and become theorists to tf2 unlocks and updates as well.
Well as most of you know of the
Fire retardant suit for spy.*was a beta idea but you can still find it*
Gold, Silver, Copper tokens.
Also valve said, maybe make one of your weapons stronger.
Personally i say, Save all your refined metals until the engie patch. Hey who knows youll most likely get a hat during that waiting time. Maybe its the one you wanted to craft. Its really a gamble on that side, or a choice if you wanna craft.
I say wait. What if they make it so you can add a small amount of little teeny tiny(yet helpful) upgrades to your Base weapons.(which they kind of hinted)
Heres a list of what i think might eventually happen these are just examples.
There will be attributes, only to be applied to the main non achievement weapons. aka bat or knife. The attributes would be random on creation. always 1 pro and 1 con. Who knows it could turn out to be a great combo or something awful like
**Upgraded Bat +15 hp -15hp.** thats something like a waste.
Heres more of something good combo.
**Upgraded Bat
PRO: Slow target on hit 1-2 seconds.
Con: Delay swing(fire,hit etc) .5-1 second.
**Upgraded Knife**
Good upgrade
Pros:Speed increase 5-10%
Cons:Health reduced 10hp
Bad Upgrade.
**Upgraded Knife**
Pros: Increase uber on hit
Cons:Health reduced 10hp
Now theres also the talk of Gold,silver, and copper. Heres how i think it will work.
Copper= 1 scrap 1 reclaimed 1 refined+anytoken= Copper Token
Silver= 2 scrap 2 Reclaimed 2 Refined+any token= Silver Token
Gold= 4 Scrap 2 Reclaimed 3 Refined+any token= Gold Token
Example to make the item.
To make the Normal Knife.
Refined Metalx2+spy token+meele token=Spy Knife
Then. Refined Metalx5+Copper+knife=Upgrade Knife(1 Pro 1 Con)
Make the Silver Knife.
Refined Metalx3+Silver+spy token+meele token=Silver Spy Knife
Metalx5+knife=Upgrade Silver Knife(2 Pro 2-3 Con)(for balance issues)
The Golden Knife
Refined Metalx5+Gold+spy token+meele token=Golden Spy Knife
Metalx5+knife=Upgrade Golden Knife(2 Pro 1 Con+Sparkles much like the community weapons but gold colored instead of white)
Examples of Silver/Golden weapons.(im gonna use the knife a lot)
**Silver Knife**
Pros:+15 hp, +10% damage
Cons: -5% speed, 20% slower fire rate
Level:30 always.
**Golden Knife** Pros are better than normal cons are less.
Pros:+25 hp 15% Movement increase
Cons: 30% damage reduce(this doesn't include backstab.
Effect: It sparkles with sheer will power.
Level:50 always.
Yes thats a lot of refined metal right there. Maybe it will cost more or less or be different. The reason i speculate it costing so much is because, that is pretty crazy having a upgraded base weapon and shouldn't be something so simple and fast to get because its such an amazing replacement. so far [url]http://www.tf2items.com/id/df[/url] has the right idea.
How attributes will work.
It will be on a dice system(like mostly anything random is)
and there will be a list of attribute that can be applied to weapons BUT some are for others and some are not.
Example. A spy knife wouldn't get Increased Uber on hit even though i used that as an example before.
There will be a set list with attributes that can apply to all weapons, then ones that are and are not allowed for certain weapons to reduce OPness.
Example. Rocket launches wont get 50% increased damage or any increased damage for them because there already so strong. OR crit after kill. They would however get faster fire speed/reload speed.
I think we can expect to see more of something like this along with the engineer update, because hey, the engie crafts things so it seems it would be something valve would do.
Please tell me what you think about this and dont post that its to long.
Engineer update won't come out in a long time, since the War update was just 3 months ago.
Yeah thats why im saving all my metal till then. I could honestly care less about hats.
I was thinking about something like that.
At this moment, the craft system is really useless, I mean for weapons, who is really using the craft to make dropables weapons ?
I think Valve should add new weapons, with their pro/cons, weapons that will be only craftable.
I wouldn't mind silver weapons, but gold is lame.
i want a golden ambassador
[QUOTE=Talishmar;20099527]I wouldn't mind silver weapons, but gold is lame.[/QUOTE]
Color wouldnt change, it would just be status of golden.
[QUOTE=NChoodedSniper;20099848]Color wouldnt change, it would just be status of golden.[/QUOTE]
So, it would... sparkle? :allears:
If you have seen community weapons it would have that effect but yellow sparkles instead of white.
[QUOTE=Invulnerable;20099259]Engineer update won't come out in a long time, since the War update was just 3 months ago.[/QUOTE]
Damn, it's been that long already?
What I want out of crafting:
[img]http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7608/jeyrahteh.png[/img]
:c00lbert:
[QUOTE=Invulnerable;20099259]Engineer update won't come out in a long time, since the War update was just 3 months ago.[/QUOTE]
Valve run a 2-3 month update cycle, we're due for the Engie Update any day now.
[QUOTE=Vaught;20124037]What I want out of crafting:
[img]http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7608/jeyrahteh.png[/img]
:c00lbert:[/QUOTE]
That would be a good idea if they implement it with an arc.
Pros:
Can be thrown
Mini-Crit on body hit
Crit on headshot
Cons:
Short Range
No Crit on Leg/Arm hit
Not rechargeable, (Have to either go to a resupply, or pick it up off the ground)
[QUOTE=AshtonArdoin;20124624]That would be a good idea if they implement it with an arc.
Pros:
Can be thrown
Mini-Crit on body hit
Crit on headshot
Cons:
Short Range
No Crit on Leg/Arm hit
Not rechargeable, (Have to either go to a resupply, or pick it up off the ground)[/QUOTE]
and if you are out of ammo, you go into the losing/scared animation (if you threw your kukri)
[QUOTE=Invulnerable;20099259]Engineer update won't come out in a long time, since the War update was just 3 months ago.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=smurfy;20124057]Valve run a 2-3 month update cycle, we're due for the Engie Update any day now.[/QUOTE]
We are getting around to an update soon, but even Robin stated in an interview that they are working on multiple updates right now and 1 will be before the Engineer update (most likely the community update).
Even though its been about 3 months now it still feels like it would be too soon if we got an update within the week, IMO. I feel like the longer we wait on updates, the better, larger and more refined they are. (excluding the distance between the Heavy update and the Scout update.)
It's seriously been 3 months?
It's felt like 3 weeks.
[QUOTE=Irishman23;20125393]We are getting around to an update soon, but even Robin stated in an interview that they are working on multiple updates right now and 1 will be before the Engineer update (most likely the community update).
Even though its been about 3 months now it still feels like it would be too soon if we got an update within the week, IMO. I feel like the longer we wait on updates, the better, larger and more refined they are. (excluding the distance between the Heavy update and the Scout update.)[/QUOTE]
That was because of L4D1
[QUOTE=Kowalski;20099472]I was thinking about something like that.
At this moment, the craft system is really useless, I mean for weapons, who is really using the craft to make dropables weapons ?
I think Valve should add new weapons, with their pro/cons, weapons that will be only craftable.[/QUOTE]
I'm using the craft to get specific contribute weapons, because someone is making this awesome spy melee.
[QUOTE=AshtonArdoin;20125522]It's seriously been 3 months?
It's felt like 3 weeks.[/QUOTE]
God, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that.
Man do yout hink refined metal grows on trees? You wan't like 4 scrap, 2..second ones and 3 refined for a token, that still needs two more refined, and for what? a minor stat change? I'll take my hats good sir.
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;20127169]God, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that.[/QUOTE]
I thought it too.
Damn.
Demodamn
I don't know about you, but I think it'd be GOOD to craft hats before the community hats are in, as the Valve hats will become even more precious, since there'll be so relatively few of them.
Something tells me that Valve is gonna delay the Engie update with another Classless update. I personally don't mind because:
A. A shitload more hats to be able to find is always nice.
B. They need the extra time to come up with something good thats not too overpowered.
[QUOTE=winsanity;20128519]Something tells me that Valve is gonna delay the Engie update with another Classless update. I personally don't mind because:
A. A shitload more hats to be able to find is always nice.
B. They need the extra time to come up with something good thats not too overpowered.[/QUOTE]
It's likely going to include adding the best community contributions.
[QUOTE=Vaught;20124037]What I want out of crafting:
[img]http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7608/jeyrahteh.png[/img]
:c00lbert:[/QUOTE]
That picture is pretty nice for some reason. Anyway, I'd love craftable only weapons.
[QUOTE=Invulnerable;20099259]Engineer update won't come out in a long time, since the War update was just 3 months ago.[/QUOTE]
holy shit time flew by, it's already been 3 months?
Ok, well, I think 3 refined metals is a shitload, cut that amount by about half.
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