On Pyro's Flamethrower Damage - Games

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQWt9aMrXc[/media] Here's an interesting video I had in my subscriptions. It talks about how the Flamer is now that it's damage has been altered. Some good to know info. Be careful, Pyros.

I found this informative. Poor Pyro is always getting the shaft.

Pyro is now nerfed to total shitness.

Didn't even mention the Flare gun.

Really interesting actually. Learned quite a bit. Reminded me of a weekend morning news story for some reason

[QUOTE=Luxy;21887381]Pyro is now nerfed to total shitness.[/QUOTE] I don't think he's useless but he's underpowered now.

I'll be the devil's advocate and state that no one will really stand still while being flamed. But most of his points are valid, while he dances around the airblast use. Balancing the class around a SUPPORT function IE Relying on the mistake of the enemy is flawed. Only two classes could be easily airfucked, leaving smaller things like the stunball and Huntsman less feasible and less functional, as these require an immense amount of either luck or aim. Turning Pyro into a support class, while lowering his overall effectiveness within his zone, kind of ruins the whole point of the flame thrower and the class. [QUOTE=ZestyLemons;21887421]Didn't even mention the Flare gun.[/QUOTE] I think it's safe to say that the flare gun is only useful if one can land more than one hit. I've an advocate of the Flare gun, but at times I curse myself, wishing I had my shotgun because of the more reliability on hitscan.

[QUOTE=Lucinice;21887522]I don't think he's useless but he's underpowered now.[/QUOTE] Considering his flame thrower only has one advantage now, the airblast, I believe it is not worth playing him. I think the damage should be returned to what it was pre-update, bu the after burn should stay as it is.

I hate the flamethrower. I'm glad VALVe did thi., The Pyro is practically noob-proof now.

I just hope that the backburner still has more damage than the regular flamethrower if they do update it, because that's what makes it even slightly worth using.

[QUOTE=ZestyLemons;21887421]Didn't even mention the Flare gun.[/QUOTE] Flaregun is the most balanced weapon in the game when comparing it to its original counterpart.

[QUOTE=Luxy;21887381]Pyro is now nerfed to total shitness.[/QUOTE] Oh don't start it. It may need a buff but it's still playable.

[QUOTE=cs_bunny;21887596]I hate the flamethrower. I'm glad VALVe did thi., The Pyro is practically noob-proof now.[/QUOTE] The pyro always WAS "noob" proof, as your immature mind puts it. It is easy for a scout, heavy, demo, soldier and sometimes sniper, engi or medic to gun down a pyro after being burned from behind. Also considering that your have teammates who will be shooting the pyro as well, he has little chance. I have always found that people that complain about "M1+W" are at least one of the following: Under 12 Don't act as a team (leave teammates behind then blame them for their foolish death) Overkill CS:S fans (omg this is so stupid wtf he holds down two buttons and kills me takes no skill games gay im back to css bye)(they also usually fall into the first category) Stupid (heyz goys im skipping schooool to play this aint i cool lul wuts grammr) Pick at least one please.

I've noticed the great difference in Flamer damage. It's kind of crappy now, and it's not like you can flame and run with the nerfed burn time.

The guy never mentions ambushing nor support. At least the damage statistics are useful.

Well this is why I'm currently using the Back Burner.

[QUOTE=Keychain;21887640]Flaregun is the most balanced weapon in the game when comparing it to its original counterpart.[/QUOTE] Well, on level with the Kritzkrieg and the Razorback at least.

Even worse is the fact that burn duration has been lowered from 11 seconds to 5 seconds, which practically ruins the point.

He didn't mention how air blast spam can push back an entire team in a choke point of a map

[QUOTE=Luxy;21887736]The pyro always WAS "noob" proof, as your immature mind puts it. It is easy for a scout, heavy, demo, soldier and sometimes sniper, engi or medic to gun down a pyro after being burned from behind. Also considering that your have teammates who will be shooting the pyro as well, he has little chance. I have always found that people that complain about "M1+W" are at least one of the following: Under 12 Don't act as a team (leave teammates behind then blame them for their foolish death) Overkill CS:S fans (omg this is so stupid wtf he holds down two buttons and kills me takes no skill games gay im back to css bye)(they also usually fall into the first category) Stupid (heyz goys im skipping schooool to play this aint i cool lul wuts grammr) Pick at least one please.[/QUOTE] nice assumption faggot what the fuck does not acting as a team have to do with anything are you really that stupid holy shit [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - TH89))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=bro1;21888082]nice assumption faggot what the fuck does not acting as a team have to do with anything are you really that stupid holy shit[/QUOTE] Shut up Anyways i do feel bad for the pyro, maybe they should put the afterburn back to 10?

[QUOTE=bro1;21888082]nice assumption faggot what the fuck does not acting as a team have to do with anything are you really that stupid holy shit[/QUOTE] My list strikes as true again. Congratulations.

[QUOTE=Overseer No. 2;21887917]Well, on level with the Kritzkrieg and the [b][u]Razorback[/u][/b] at least.[/QUOTE] You're kidding. Right?

bro1 is a troll just report and shut up

I guess the problem with a company listening to it's fanbase is that it not only improves the game on it's player's behalf, but it also makes the game worse by listening to the imbeciles.

[QUOTE=Gorm;21888140]Shut up Anyways i do feel bad for the pyro, maybe they should put the afterburn back to 10?[/QUOTE] lol no [QUOTE=Luxy;21888143]My list strikes as true again. Congratulations.[/QUOTE] wow sounds like you're being a presumptuous faggot again [QUOTE=Keychain;21888170]bro1 is a troll just report and shut up[/QUOTE] least i'm not gay haha [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - SteveUK))[/highlight]

Very useful.

I have a problem with his tests on the axtinguisher. He only tested it on the scout, which has the lowest HP in the game, and no one really uses the axtinguisher on the scout. He should have tested the backburner and axtinguisher on the heavy, which is a more common target of the axtinguisher (at least for me). I think lighting the heavy on fire and then hitting it twice with the axtinguisher would be faster then spamming the backburner. Anyone wanna test that?

Flammennerfer [editline]09:07PM[/editline] It nerfs flammen

Great! Now melee spies actually have a chance of defeating a pyro. shit sucks for hardcore pyro players that actually use technique to what they do (other than w+m1 or m1+m2+corner players (you can't seriously say you haven't had this happen to you, a pyro sets you on fire then blastbacks you into a corner so you can't fucking move and then you die.)) It's sad to see that the pyro got nerfed but players that w+m1 will now be useless.