Me and my friends are looking to play some competitive, but I have some questions.
1. What is the minimum age to join a league?
2. How many people must we have on a team?
3. What is the best way to practice?
If you could answer these...then Thanks!
1. I don't know of any league with an age limit.
2. At least 6 core, most teams have an additional backup or two.
3. Practicing against other teams around your level or better regularly. MGE/DM servers to improve aim and movement. Reviewing demos of other teams and yourself (be self critical) and using them to improve and gain more understanding of a lot of situations.
Best of luck, competitive is a really fun experience for a lot of people!
1.Not sure, but I am sure that almost no one would want to hear a prepubescent voice calling out comms.
2.A minimum of 6. 2 soldiers, 2 scouts, 1 medic and 1 demo. And those people should have a ringer, or someone to cover for them if they can't play.
3.Play MGE, SOAP and a lot of DM. Playing with somene on your skill level is also good, getting stomped won't really help.
Also turn off your view models. It'll help.
1. I'd say at least 15, so you don't sound like a little kid that annoys the shit out of people. (No offense.)
2. At least 6 with a few backups. If you're going for highlander, it is 9+ backups.
3. I found the MGE training mod to be very useful. There are tons of servers that host it.
I hope you like competitive as much as I do, it's a blast. Also try out different HUDs and viewmodel settings.
May I add something as well? Some comp preffer to use a third party program to communicate with the team such as Ventrilo due to the high quality just remember to bind a different key for it.
1. I've never seen an age limit, we have a 14 year old in our team who gets on fine with everybody else.
2. 6 and some backups if you're playing 6v6 or 9 and backups for Highlander. Our team currently has two of each class for highlander.
3. MGE like everybody else has mentioned will really help you out as well as watching demos and commentaries. When you want to start putting your skills to the test try out [URL]http://www.tf2lobby.com/[/URL]
Watch demos. examine how people play. Always ask yourself "what should i be doing?" and until you're confident with your decisions also think of what your fave high-level player would do.
Practice Practice Practice
Doesn't matter if it's mge or pub or pickup/lobby, always be trying to play your best. Think of what would be good to be doing and you'll pick it up. Don't take anything but a match too seriously and always see yourself progressing, don't try to have a set point to head to, but that's just my opinion.
tr_rocket_shooting2 is good if you want to be a soldier, but remember that you won't be initiating most jumps unlike in that map, so try to circle around a person as you're trying to midair them.
As for age? Shouldn't matter as long as you realise that you'll eventually get there. you can't expect to equal older dudes who have been playing comp since they were your age, i mean work towards it but you can't expect it until you've put in as much effort.
Since you asked about team size i'm going to presume you don't know a huge amount about the format. With highlander, you'll want around 11-12. getting a total of 18 people into a server is never timely but it can become maddening when 2-3 people can't consistently make it. 6's teams can make do with 7 but 8 is a good number. Usually teams run core/backup places but that doesn't mean that backup people need to get shoved into a corner and never play.
Finally, organisation is a must. Make sure everyone knows when scrims/matches are in the week and inability to turn up to games will mean no-one will want to play you.
[QUOTE=KenjiKusanagi;37247558]May I add something as well? Some comp preffer to use a third party program to communicate with the team such as Ventrilo due to the high quality just remember to bind a different key for it.[/QUOTE]
I've never seen anyone that uses ventrilo for team comms in TF2. Everyone uses mumble, and for a good reason; it's cheaper and doesn't have an additional delay like ventrilo does.
Wow more replies than i thought I would get LOL. But thanks guys!!!!! You really helped alot!
[QUOTE=ajminifigure;37250380]Wow more replies than i thought I would get LOL. But thanks guys!!!!! You really helped alot![/QUOTE]
Think of it this way, if people ask nicely, like you, then you'll get the answer.
[PHP][/PHP]Getting into competitive is easy and lucky for you the next UGC season is coming up. One of the most important things in my opinion is organization, strategy and planning. When I first started out I liked to go to TF2 Lobby and play a not-so important class such as pyro so I could see how others handled themselves and the map. Gives you an idea of how things work before you try yourself. Also have fun. Do it with friends and don't take things too serious. Nothing ruins it more than playing with people who can't handle losing. Good luck.
Thanks guys! Also, with the new Mann Vs. Machine update, do you think it would be good practice for competitive? I know I'm facing against bots, but since this new game mode is 6-player co-op, I could work out teamwork skills and strategies with my friends against these bots. What do you think?
[QUOTE=ajminifigure;37256641]Thanks guys! Also, with the new Mann Vs. Machine update, do you think it would be good practice for competitive? I know I'm facing against bots, but since this new game mode is 6-player co-op, I could work out teamwork skills and strategies with my friends against these bots. What do you think?[/QUOTE]
It will be [I]absolutely[/I] nothing like a standard comp match, so I wouldn't say it's a good way to practice.
No, no, I mean to build teamwork.
Absolutely not
As Sc00by22 said, if you [i]Really[/i] want to know about getting into competitive TF2 and what it's like, [url]http://tf2lobby.com/[/url] is the way forward.
if u pray 2 god and ask nicely all christmas you too can be comp mlg pubstomper there nothing beter than winning pub people for hours a day i high advice you to try comp leaguie play
[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;37259308]if u pray 2 god and ask nicely all christmas you too can be comp mlg pubstomper there nothing beter than winning pub people for hours a day i high advice you to try comp leaguie play[/QUOTE]
This is probably your best bet.
[QUOTE=Lost Darkness;37259141]As Sc00by22 said, if you [i]Really[/i] want to know about getting into competitive TF2 and what it's like, [url]http://tf2lobby.com/[/url] is the way forward.[/QUOTE]
i wouldnt suggest doing this for too long, lobbies have degraded so far its only good for building up a small understanding of 6s format. playing a serious 6s game with only the knowledge you learned from lobbies will not go well at all.
[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;37259308]if u pray 2 god and ask nicely all christmas you too can be comp mlg pubstomper there nothing beter than winning pub people for hours a day i high advice you to try comp leaguie play[/QUOTE]
If you honestly think all comp players are arrogant self-important dicks you are terribly mistaken.
There really is no age to enter competitive, In the highest division of TF2 in North America there is actually a pocket soldier that is 16 years old and started when he was either 12 or 13 (Lansky).
As for a team it depends on whether you want to play 6 v 6 or Highlander. Highlander requires all 9 classes play on a team, 6 v 6's general layout is 2 scouts 2 soldiers 1 demo and 1 medic. There's some offclassing in 6v6 but it's limited to lasts and certain maps (Gullywash heavy, Viadcut sniper).
As for practicing, playing the game itself is a good start. If you think you're good enough and are tired of pubs move on to [URL="http://tf2lobby.com"]TF2lobby.com[/URL] or just find a team to try out for or play on in [URL="http://ugcleague.com"]UGC[/URL]. Playing on TF2Lobby can give you a bit of game sense but it's a little disorganized at times. Also if you feel you're up to the challenge you can go to [URL="http://atf2.org"]atf2.org[/URL] and use IRC to add up to Pick Up Games, there is PUG.NA (Higher level 6v6 pick up games), PUG.NAHL (Highlander Pick up games) and TF2.PUG (Lower Level 6v6 pick up games). Just choose which one you want to add up and press !add *classnames*.
As for DM skills, MGE and DM servers are pretty good. MGE is good for refining aiming and one on one situations (Don't rely on these skills, team skills are better). DM are good for practicing fights in hectic situations, it teaches you how to aim in a cluttered area rather than 1v1. Really only eXtv's dm server is filled up you can [URL="http://www.extelevision.com/servers/"]find them here[/URL]. The good MGE servers are generally MGE.iT and Reddits MGE server, You can [URL="http://natf2.com/tf2_servers"]find the servers here[/URL].
So good luck and have fun.
It's pretty important that you have fps around atleast 50+. I use a max frames config which is great for competitive play in my opinion.
[QUOTE=duskard;37271930]It's pretty important that you have fps around atleast 50+. I use a max frames config which is great for competitive play in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
And here is a link to one of those (scroll down):
[URL]http://fakkelbrigade.eu/chris/configs/[/URL]
These also come in handy as they remove a lot of the distraction from the game making it easier to concentrate.
i just made one.
[URL="http://clugu.com/tf2mate/"]http://clugu.com/tf2mate/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;37259308]if u pray 2 god and ask nicely all christmas you too can be comp mlg pubstomper there nothing beter than winning pub people for hours a day i high advice you to try comp leaguie play[/QUOTE]
except you know if you actually played in a league you would have something better to do with your time than "winning pub people"
[QUOTE=duskard;37278413]i just made one.
[URL="http://clugu.com/tf2mate/"]http://clugu.com/tf2mate/[/URL][/QUOTE]
I'd actually recommend not using tf2mate. It's better if you learn to write scripts yourself (it's very simple actually and it's extremely useful: [url]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Scripting[/url]). TF2mate gives you a lot of things you didn't ask for and if you want to edit something you will have a hard time since you don't understand what the scripts do. I [I]highly[/I] recommend that you learn scripting.
Its cool. I know how yo script
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;37279873]I'd actually recommend not using tf2mate. It's better if you learn to write scripts yourself (it's very simple actually and it's extremely useful: [url]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Scripting[/url]). TF2mate gives you a lot of things you didn't ask for and if you want to edit something you will have a hard time since you don't understand what the scripts do. I [I]highly[/I] recommend that you learn scripting.[/QUOTE]
also
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