So I was on a favourite server recently. I was an engineer on Dustbowl and the enemy team was calling our team sucking for spawncamping, despite the fact that they had four snipers in a seven man team. I told them if they didn't suck and used better teamwork, they would have been spawncamped.
I was banned for 'abusive' behavior. A load of fucking bullshit if you ask me (especially considering that the admins weren't much better). So, anybody expirence getting kicked or banned just because of spawncamping / questioning it? Because I understand getting spawncamped is no fun, but if you're team sucks, then you're asking for it, especially on a koth map.
It's also dumb of the measures they go on where you are spawncamping, if you're near the a point in a 2-cp a/d map, many people will assume you're scing. Why the hell do players assume the other team to be running in circles in defense while the other team doesn't even know where the last point is?
Just adding it in.
If they can't kill spawncampers, they deserve it.
They have infinite ammo/heal supply, time, they are safe. Just one nice pyro rush when spy is sapping camping sentry and go. Its TEAM fortress, and if enemy team is better - go suck your mom's dick.
Spawncamping is more like waiting for player to spawn and instantly killing him. There is no spawcanping in tf2 - you spawn in a freakin bunker/room, not in totally uncovered place.
This TF2's "spawncamp" is legit, like stopping lilttle men from stealing our cart at goldrush, first stage, after-first cp.
It's true. It's not cheap, they earned that sentry nest infront of your spawn and you have to take it like a man and demo/medic combo their arses away.
While not TF2 related. In 2142, me and a friend of mine would constantly get yelled at, even kicked, for 'Spawn camping' pod beacons... That were on OUR Titan... It's not like they HAVE to spawn on it. =\
But I digress. If a defense is steamrolled far enough that the attackers are outside their door... more often than not it's their own fault. Besides, it's not TERRIBLY difficult to kill spawn campers in my experience... Though I am a career Scout that knows the usefulness of a good Bonk!..
Even being a career scout, I still have enough sense to switch classes to something the team needs, especially on low population servers where individual skill plays a much bigger role. While Huntsman snipers can be mighty effective... Having neigh half of your team being them is not a particularly smart idea. =(
You are a bit cruel though for spawn camping. If it's apparent that they suck so much, let up on them.
I hate demo's stickying up the spawndoors and then pull the "Then why did Valve make it able for us to get here :downs:" card.
Not everyone is as good a player as you or anyone else.
First stage of Goldrush, if the team gets to the RED spawn and camps it, one single person can push the cart while the entire team hits the spawn.
There's no time to uber if someone like a scout is pushing the cart all the way to the end
Spawn camping is legal. And if they weren't too busy bitching about it they might have gotten out.
It's not a matter if it's "legal", it's just that it's cheap. Demo stickycamping the doors that is, anything else you have a chance :o
If you're team is able to get spawncamped you shouldn't be playing
I'm sick of spawncamp complainers complainers.
The Über was created for this reason, just be a medic and help the team, and less people will complain in your vicinity
[QUOTE=KingKombat;18249569]If you're team is able to get spawncamped you shouldn't be playing[/QUOTE]
So because a person is new/not so good at playing, they shouldn't ever play?
if you think that spawn camping is fair, you are an idiot. play the game the way it is ment to and dont be such a pussy that you need 4 sentry guns outside the enemy spawn to get kills.
Spawn-camping is horrible sportsmanship. It also ruins the other team's chance to have fun playing the game. If you spawn camp, you aren't a good player. You're an asshole, regardless of how much of a chance they have to push back.
[QUOTE=wuzzimu;18248851]You are a bit cruel though for spawn camping. If it's apparent that they suck so much, let up on them.[/QUOTE]
Unfourtionatly this is Point Fortress 2, people will not be kind to you if it means they can look like they are a good player by camping you.
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;18249589]I'm sick of spawncamp complainers complainers.
The Über was created for this reason, just be a medic and help the team, and less people will complain in your vicinity[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you try getting a moron who refuses to heal you, then when they do finally get an uber, starts it on you, then decides to run off before the threat is gone. People have all the right to complain about spawn camping, as it is a cheap and pathetic tactic (if you can even call it a tactic).
Spawncampers are just jackasses anyway. 'hurr its legit you derserve it derp derp'. No one deserves an arrow to the head, nor do they deserve burning to death on top of a health pack, nor do they deserve stabbed in the back. But I forget, this is Teamstack Fortress 2, home of competitive gamurs. :downs:
[QUOTE=imperialrock;18250020]if you think that spawn camping is fair, you are an idiot. play the game the way it is ment to and dont be such a pussy that you need 4 sentry guns outside the enemy spawn to get kills.[/QUOTE]
Its quite hard to get 4 sentry's outside a spawn.
[QUOTE=Wingedwizard;18251145]Its quite hard to get 4 sentry's outside a spawn.[/QUOTE]
Not really. Setup time in Payload maps can easily get that done, on large teams it's easier as you can get more defense.
I'm sick of people complaining about how sick they are of spawn camper complainers.
The thing about "they deserve it", though, is that the guys who got everyone into that situation tend to ragequit.
Then a new wave of players join, can only be on the horribly losing team, and either ragequit as well or get screwed over by something they had no part in causing.
I feel so jubilant when I kill spawncampers. But I digress: I, too, spawncamp often.
Spawn camping is zero fun, if you think its fun then you suck.
Go mono-class against a team that sucks. If they lose to a team of all spies or worse, a team of all scouts, then the humiliation would increase 20-fold.
[QUOTE=CunningHam;18251417]Original, riveting, and upredictable reply.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=hexpunK;18251171]Not really. Setup time in Payload maps can easily get that done, on large teams it's easier as you can get more defense.[/QUOTE]
If the other team didn't use that time to build up an uber or two, and use it on a Demo/Heavy/Pyro depending on how far from the door the sentries are, they really did have it coming.
All the times I've seen spawn camping in TF2 it's been short lived anyway, you can go Pyro, run out, light everyone on fire, run back into the spawn and heal up, then repeat. You'll win a war of attrition when you're right next to your spawn.
[QUOTE=Reflectent;18251187]I'm sick of people complaining about how sick they are of spawn camper complainers.[/QUOTE]
I'm sick of people complaining.
[QUOTE=johngrimm;18255179]I'm sick of people complaining.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I'm just as sick as you are about people who complained they can't get a kill or accusing players of cheating, etc etc.
Ok so that was a *place bad pun here* story. but seriously spawn camping is just something you need to quit complaining about it since most of us here got banned from servers for much more terrible reasons, besides there are thousands more servers you can go to and not get banned.
I don't see what the problem is. Spawncamping is really not an issue IMO considering how once the demo blows up his stickies the other people that spawn with him can easily overwhelm him.
just go spy and counter spawn camp if you can
i have an excellent vid of this on harvest I might upload if i can be bothered to crop it
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