Improved default HUD

[errur]

Hey facepunch, I'm working on modifying the default hud. I'll just copy the description off game banana because I'm lazy.

I'm probably one of the few people who actually likes the default tf2 hud. I can't deny the fact that it's got many flaws but I can at least try to get rid of some of them.
Instead of completely replacing the hud with a custom one I thought of changing this one by adding and replacing stuff while staying true to the original art style (or at least trying to).

Either way this should be mostly meant for casual play but I'll change the minimal version of the hud completely to support competitive play, clutter free and clean.

Some people might say there's rather unnecessary stuff or 'clutter' added but I personally don't mind it. To satisfy everyone though, I will create a small installer that would let you select 'features' and options so you can customize your hud.
I know a bit of c++ but I will need to do some research before I can code something like that. As a sidenote if someone does know c++ and could help me with this it would be greatly appreciated.

[b]Screenshots:[/b]

Normal hud (left) and minimal hud (right)
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/7tcnwdss4fn71d1/hud_general.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ixwpabww0u7vlxk/minhud_general.jpg[/t]

CTF hud
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/co91lh9zyx7bt1v/ctfhud.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/bdynoqj4dehshma/ctfhud_carryingintel.jpg[/t]
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ciw8or0qkxi515o/minhud_ctf.jpg[/t]

Demo chargebars and engineer build hud. Also hitmarkers and damage numbers
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/nlmxz7oy6saovm3/demo_chargebar.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/gcdyygvqp91xkl6/engineer_hud_hitmarkers.jpg[/t]
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/z2954i0cdkxcv0t/minhud_demo.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/y6z7ihmuz4877cm/minhud_engie.jpg[/t]

Medic hud
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/dopjl25x0dnj0z0/medic_uber.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/j1r6xoek15y9jt9/medic_vaccinator.jpg[/t]
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/9nc400y517k9auo/minhud_medic.jpg[/t]

Flashing mini health and ammo indicators when critical
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ib5e5u5mii3aanp/hud_warnings.jpg[/t]

Chargebars
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/p2kl60t4l0knc2h/scout_chargebars.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/mptio2vnwuyg32p/sniper_chargebars.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/47spdug9nwy5ver/soldier_chargebars.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/nx2fq682iui18ei/soldier_laser_chargebars.jpg[/t]
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/nt64vf9pu508cdk/spy_chargebars.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/4qintse33ln8uf9/minhud_soldier.jpg[/t]
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/jhglvk9qulidatk/minhud_spy.jpg[/t]

Vote screen
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/13utzgrjkih7lfh/votemenu.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/yp4etc3xvx4gi03/vote_active.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/lwkzvtssq97tv1w/vote_result_notifications.jpg[/t]

Loadout screen
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/wa8eqzj0sbwh4rg/loadout_others.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6nps7mjqz3ica0a/loadout_spy.jpg[/t]

[b]Please check the new thread for the latest version [url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1334979]here[/url][/b]

Older versions:
You can get pre release 1 [url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/r7qu4rzep3olnqy/Improved%20vanilla%20hud%20pre%20release.rar]here[/url] [b]Note: Only supports 16:9[/b]
You can get pre release 2 [url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/o3glf8v8168b40o/improved%20vanilla%20hud%20pre%20release%202.rar]here[/url]. [b]Note: Only supports 16:9[/b]
You can get the halloween update bit [url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/zrlabmcebfu6d7h/hudupdate.rar]here[/url] (goes over prerelease 1 or 2)
You can get Prerelease 3.1 [url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/o9icaee2mt52m18/ivhud_prerelease3.1.rar]here[/url] [b]Supports 4:3 and 16:9[/b]

NOTE: The hud is a WIP and some stuff might be broken.

The mini display was inspired by an old game I used to play - [url=http://i.imgur.com/N5ok2jZ.jpg]C&C Renegade[/url]

Again, I'm planning on making every change optional so don't jump on me for adding hitmarkers :v: [sp]rather later than never[/sp]

Suggestions and general feedback are more than welcome.

[R.M.T.B.]

Are you going to make the kill feed much smaller and with more than 4 notifications max?

[Banjo7J]

This looks really good, can't wait to use it. I like that everything will be optional, as there are a few things here I don't particularly like, that I imagine others will.

[errur]

[QUOTE=R.M.T.B.;41810721]Are you going to make the kill feed much smaller and with more than 4 notifications max?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I did change the number of notifications but only slightly resized them.

[thumb]http://horobox.co.uk/u/errur_1376369016.jpg[/thumb]

[Snowshoe]

I'd love an alternate version that puts the health and ammo more closer to the center of the screen. Sure, it's a small niche, but I don't like glancing at corners for important information, and that's what always bothered me about the default HUD.

[R.M.T.B.]

[QUOTE=Snowshoe;41810997]I'd love an alternate version that puts the health and ammo more closer to the center of the screen. Sure, it's a small niche, but I don't like glancing at corners for important information, and that's what always bothered me about the default HUD.[/QUOTE]

And why you use KBN hud

[errur]

I've got a bit of a problem and am not sure what to choose.
I combined the plr objective hud so it doesn't take as much space. Your team's cart is always on top.

With how the demo charge meter is now it clips with the plr hud

[t]http://horobox.co.uk/u/errur_1376401561.jpg[/t]

Help me choose or suggest something else.

If I move it higher than the cart symbol it seems a bit too close to the center thus cluttering the main screen area. It still clips with the arrow thing.

[t]http://horobox.co.uk/u/errur_1376390007.jpg[/t] Rate Late

I think ideally it should be at the top. Although the arrow things goes offscreen I think it's not really important.

[t]http://horobox.co.uk/u/errur_1376364221.jpg[/t] Rate Zing

Alternatively it would be too close to the main area again

[t]http://horobox.co.uk/u/errur_1376383603.jpg[/t] Rate Dissagree

[_charon]

[QUOTE=sergiuung;41811376]I've got a bit of a problem and am not sure what to choose.
I combined the plr objective hud so it doesn't take as much space. Your team's cart is always on top.

With how the demo charge meter is now it clips with the plr hud

[t]http://horobox.co.uk/u/errur_1376401561.jpg[/t]

Help me choose or suggest something else.

If I move it higher than the cart symbol it seems a bit too close to the center thus cluttering the main screen area. It still clips with the arrow thing.

[t]http://horobox.co.uk/u/errur_1376390007.jpg[/t] Rate Late

I think ideally it should be at the top. Although the arrow things goes offscreen I think it's not really important.

[t]http://horobox.co.uk/u/errur_1376364221.jpg[/t] Rate Zing

Alternatively it would be too close to the main area again

[t]http://horobox.co.uk/u/errur_1376383603.jpg[/t] Rate Dissagree[/QUOTE]
If that's the Loose Cannon meter and not the shield one, I would make it tiny and put it under the crosshair. The HUD I'm using now does that, and it helps charging it without looking away.

[errur]

[QUOTE=_charon;41811454]If that's the Loose Cannon meter and not the shield one, I would make it tiny and put it under the crosshair. The HUD I'm using now does that, and it helps charging it without looking away.[/QUOTE]

It is the cannon meter and I personally don't like having stuff close to my crosshair.

[errur]

[QUOTE=Lolkork;41811835]Would it be possible to make some kind of custom crosshair for the cannon that looks like a circle with a dot in the center of it, but when you charge it the circle will shrink until it reaches the dot, which is the point when the grenade would detonate?[/QUOTE]

I don't think so. I tried replicating ep1's ammo and health meters around the crosshair. All the meters seem to be hard coded into the client.

[Gamemaster1379]

This looks absolutely amazing. I've always preferred stock over the custom HUDs, and this definitely is up my alley. For a while now I've been using a modified stock that I made myself. It has numerical health values on all + sign values, which are gray with neon green outlining. And all damage text is a bolded yellow. It works for what I need, but I'll probably hop onto this one as soon as you have a public release.

[R.M.T.B.]

I might just give up frankenhud and give this a try when its realeased

[Astrobastard]

Don't really have any suggestions, but this is exactly the kind of hud I'm looking for. Used Frankenhud for the longest time now, and this just seems like a vastly better version. Looking forward to the release!

[AlfieSR]

[QUOTE=sergiuung;41810668][thumb]http://horobox.reager.org/u/errur_1376382371.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE]

Personally, this bothers me. The letters being at the side there look extremely out of place, as though it were a last minute slap-it-anywhere decision. Also the fact that the columns are unequal, which the default HUD only gets away with because it's on opposite sides of the screens and less noticeable as such. Also kind of feels like you're wasting space to the left and the right of the medic.
Could I suggest the following:
- Move ABCD either above the Back button (which could stand to be pushed a tiny bit inwards so that it'd be centered under ABCD, or above the Current Attributes thing - though I have a feeling the latter will push into ABCD far too often with some classes, like a Targe demo.
- Add a fake 4th box underneath the weapon slots for the classes that don't have their own there already.
- Push the whole of it closer together with the first suggestion in place, wasted space is less annoying at the side of something to at the centre if you're intending for eyes to move between the 2 focus points continually, which is likely to happen on the loadout screen.

Actually, doing a mockup of the ABCD above Back makes it seem rather cluttered. I have a better idea for that, hold on.
Something like this:
[thumb]http://i.imgur.com/DM2LoiG.png[/thumb]

[chipsnapper]

I do love that new loadout screen.
Nice job! I'll try it when it comes out!

[NassimO]

A very nice job! It's definitely going to be my new HUD.

[errur]

[QUOTE=AlfieSR;41824750]Personally, this bothers me. The letters being at the side there look extremely out of place, as though it were a last minute slap-it-anywhere decision. Also the fact that the columns are unequal, which the default HUD only gets away with because it's on opposite sides of the screens and less noticeable as such. Also kind of feels like you're wasting space to the left and the right of the medic.
Could I suggest the following:
- Move ABCD either above the Back button (which could stand to be pushed a tiny bit inwards so that it'd be centered under ABCD, or above the Current Attributes thing - though I have a feeling the latter will push into ABCD far too often with some classes, like a Targe demo.
- Add a fake 4th box underneath the weapon slots for the classes that don't have their own there already.
- Push the whole of it closer together with the first suggestion in place, wasted space is less annoying at the side of something to at the centre if you're intending for eyes to move between the 2 focus points continually, which is likely to happen on the loadout screen.

Actually, doing a mockup of the ABCD above Back makes it seem rather cluttered. I have a better idea for that, hold on.
Something like this:
[thumb]http://i.imgur.com/DM2LoiG.png[/thumb][/QUOTE]
I know it looks kind of disturbing not having a 4th box for weapons. Someone suggested switching the places but I think I will indeed add a fake box.

About the A B C D presets, it is not possible to move them. Their position is hard coded into the client. All you can do is change the button template or disable the presets entirely. I tried adding buttons that would use console commands to change presets but that doesn't work since hud panels aren't allowed to execute console commands by the client.
[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;41824891]I do love that new loadout screen.
Nice job! I'll try it when it comes out![/QUOTE]
It is already released [url]http://tf2.gamebanana.com/guis/29196[/url]

[Snowshoe]

Do you have a projected release date? I want to get my hands on this even if it's WIP.

[Cronos]

Is the improved loadout screen based off of what Valve changed about their Dota 2 loadout screen?

[errur]

[QUOTE=Cronos Dage;41828853]Is the improved loadout screen based off of what Valve changed about their Dota 2 loadout screen?[/QUOTE]

Not really, it's kind of inspired by the beta tf2 one but that's more of a coincidence. I just wanted to make the character bigger and ended up moving it to the side away from all the other things.

[errur]

New objective HUD for CTF.

-Moved notifications into the top left corner
-Resized the arrow circles
-Moved the score up to the clock

[thumb]http://horobox.reager.org/u/errur_1376514311.jpg[/thumb] [thumb]http://horobox.reager.org/u/errur_1376581827.jpg[/thumb]
[thumb]http://horobox.reager.org/u/errur_1376569912.jpg[/thumb] [thumb]http://horobox.reager.org/u/errur_1376591442.jpg[/thumb]

[QUOTE=Snowshoe;41828608]Do you have a projected release date? I want to get my hands on this even if it's WIP.[/QUOTE]
I don't have a release date for it though because I'm rather lazy and can't keep myself motivated to work on this too often.
I will eventually release a wip version though, after I fix the minimal hud and some other stuff I broke.

[NeoDement]

[QUOTE=AlfieSR;41824750]
Something like this:
[thumb]http://i.imgur.com/DM2LoiG.png[/thumb][/QUOTE]
I think this little edit might be a bit preferable (for me at least)

[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/900111/thinght.jpg[/t]

Just swapped the sides round so the missing 4th box looks less jarring, a fake 4th box feels really strange and forced to me

[dolphin]

[QUOTE=NeoDement;41836465]I think this little edit might be a bit preferable (for me at least)

[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/900111/thinght.jpg[/t]

Just swapped the sides round so the missing 4th box looks less jarring, a fake 4th box feels really strange and forced to me[/QUOTE]
that looks alot better. I would rather have Hats and Taunts on the left side also. :)

[errur]

[QUOTE=NeoDement;41836465]I think this little edit might be a bit preferable (for me at least)
Just swapped the sides round so the missing 4th box looks less jarring, a fake 4th box feels really strange and forced to me[/QUOTE]
Alright, switched. Also updated it on [url=http://tf2.gamebanana.com/guis/29196]gamebanana[/url]

[chipsnapper]

I need to test this ASAP.
Could you make a prerelease?
Also, can you make it so you can see enemies and teammates exact health?
I like that about frankenhud.

[errur]

[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;41854077]I need to test this ASAP.
Could you make a prerelease?
[/QUOTE]
I'm leaving for about a week and I'm not sure if I'll have internet with me so I decide to release what I have and use at the moment. No optional features yet.

You can call it the alpha version. Get it [url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/zvhjcsd2yof73lq/Improved%20vanilla%20hud%20alpha.rar]here[/url].
Get it and post some feedback.

Note: Minimal hud is broken. Very broken.

[_charon]

[QUOTE=NeoDement;41836465]I think this little edit might be a bit preferable (for me at least)

[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/900111/thinght.jpg[/t]

Just swapped the sides round so the missing 4th box looks less jarring, a fake 4th box feels really strange and forced to me[/QUOTE]
Try putting the active effects in the spot under the melee slot to fill up space.

[errur]

[QUOTE=_charon;41883818]Try putting the active effects in the spot under the melee slot to fill up space.[/QUOTE]

Can't really do that since some classes have 4 weapons slots

[_charon]

[QUOTE=sergiuung;41883865]Can't really do that since some classes have 4 weapons slots[/QUOTE]

oh yeah

[Pfysicyst]

The preset loadout buttons could go in the space under hats/miscs.