Did anyone else see this?
Scout
The Sandman now only stuns on a max range hit (when you hear the cheering)
All shorter hits now force the enemy into the thirdperson fleeing state (also removed the damage reduction on them)
Maybe valve did listen to some of us after all...
Sandman is now useless shit.
Is the sandman even useful anymore, with all the nerfs its been given?
Sandman was useless shit. Now really useless shit.
Somehow the Scout Update continues to get worse, even after it's been released.
[QUOTE=postmanX3;19024313]Sandman was useless shit. Now really useless shit.
Somehow the Scout Update continues to get worse, even after it's been released.[/QUOTE]
more like scout downdate
I hope they don't fix the FaN, thats the only reason I play scout on rare occasion. Force-Jump makes me feel like a ninja.
[QUOTE=Takkun10;19024490]I hope they don't fix the FaN, thats the only reason I play scout on rare occasion. Force-Jump makes me feel like a ninja.[/QUOTE]
then i go over and blow you away with the scattergun while you're reloading your FaN.
[QUOTE=Ziron;19024640]then i go over and blow you away with the scattergun while you're reloading your FaN.[/QUOTE]
But you will already be dead thanks to my OP FaN, close range killer.
[QUOTE=Ziron;19024640]then i go over and blow you away with the scattergun while you're reloading your FaN.[/QUOTE]
Haha, I think you're underestimating the FAN.
It takes like, two seconds to reload it. And most people don't stand still to reload their FAN. And you have a damn pistol.
UNLESS IT'S A BONK! (Who uses Bonk!, anyway? [Seriously])
Doesnt seem all that useless
Well... I guess that's it then.
*Throws all Sandmen into CRAFT-O-MATIC*
If they give full health back and picked some other con I think enough people would use it even with this nerf so it would finally be balanced.
great, two items i once loved, now useless.
OH WELL
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgNlAKc589I[/media]
Give scout back the health he lost, and make the sandman do 1/2th the damage of the regular bat. Now THATS even.
Sandman is now completely useless and stupid.
Targe and sword are going to get nerf'd to hell.
About fucking time.
Just for shits and giggles, Valve should randomly change up the Sandman's stats like every other week since it seems like it's getting tweaked in every patch anyway.
Edit: But yeah, it's less useful now. It looks like Valve's basically admitted to stuns not being right for a shooting game. I kind of wish they'd simply overhaul the Sandman or make a new scout melee weapon. Leave the current one in, but if Valve DOES decide to make some new class weapons, I think Scout deserves another set first and foremost.
Close range class + only long range stun = failure
I still don't have the "cause an environmental death by stunning someone:" achievement. how the fuck am I suppose to get it now? It's the only scout achievement I don't have >:(
Does causing the fleeing animation still count as a stun for achievements? That might make it easier, since someone could be dumb enough to walk into a train or saw blade.
[QUOTE=Eva-1337;19025328]UNLESS IT'S A BONK! (Who uses Bonk!, anyway? [Seriously])[/QUOTE]
You underestimate it. A soldier/demo + a bonk'd scout can knock out a sentrygun nest if the circumstances are right. Of course you need a team that speaks english and can actually coordinate (never).
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