Valve and their laziness with the loch-n-load - Games

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwGN7pa1Fro[/media] Why can't valve make a perfect update for once :c [editline]19th December 2010[/editline] [IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/ibkmxg.jpg[/IMG]

Brilliant idea to stand in the shade so you cant see shit.

It's probably most fucked up weapon followed by fish.

:effort:

[QUOTE=Frying Dutchman;26805180]Brilliant idea to stand in the shade so you cant see shit.[/QUOTE] Well, it was very bright in the actual game. Should I make another one?

It's also a terrible weapon that 'only does damage if you actually hit them'.

What can we say about the kill icons ...

[QUOTE=Jiggmin;26805223]It's also a terrible weapon that 'only does damage if you actually hit them'.[/QUOTE] Actually hitting people? What bullshit is this? I can't just spam grenades and not even look? BULLSHIT I'M QUITTING VALVE RUINED TF2 /sarcasm

[QUOTE=Jiggmin;26805223]It's also a terrible weapon that 'only does damage if you actually hit them'.[/QUOTE] thats the whole point of the weapon.

[QUOTE=Therium;26805242]What can we say about the kill icons ...[/QUOTE] Kill icons one can excuse. But this?

[QUOTE=beasty;26805259]thats the whole point of the weapon.[/QUOTE]The bombs should explode instead of vanishing.

I killed a lot of people with the Loch-n-Load. Maybe the reason why some people hate it, is because they can't aim for shit.

Also try to shoot it to up. It does explode. MINDFUCK No more.

[QUOTE=Niven;26805148][img_thumb]http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5279/95023737.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Look at the rest of the Demoman in this image. Notice how low quality the model is? Yeah, that might have something to do with why he's holding it so weird, because a lot of the weapons are held weirdly when the model detail or LOD is low.

[QUOTE=Datsun;26805321]I killed a lot of people with the Loch-n-Load. Maybe the reason why some people hate it, is because they can't aim for shit.[/QUOTE] I know. I love using the Loch-n-Load. It actually almost always one-hits scouts, so it's pretty effective. Damn, I LOVE killing heavies in 3 shots and they're like "WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?"

[QUOTE=Stizzles;26805396]Look at the rest of the Demoman in this image. Notice how low quality the model is?[/QUOTE] Im running in dx9 :saddowns:

isn't the gameplay more important than a clipping hand and a broken animation?

Erectin' a better video In the process of putting it together in virtual dub

[QUOTE=Corporal Yippie;26805481]isn't the gameplay more important than a clipping hand and a broken animation?[/QUOTE] But the gameplay sucks too! :v:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwGN7pa1Fro[/media] Quality will get better, it's still processing.

I think the whole point of the grenade launcher is that you can bounce them off of walls, get kills around corners, and kill people who happen to stumble over them, unaware of their presence. Not to mention the shoddy work on the weapon itself. No kill icon, the reload is fucked up, and you can do alot more damage with 4 grenades than 2 that have +10% damage. The loch-n-load? More like the fuck-n-shit.

Automerge :c

[QUOTE=GastricTank;26805694]I think the whole point of the grenade launcher is that you can bounce them off of walls, get kills around corners, and kill people who happen to stumble over them, unaware of their presence. Not to mention the shoddy work on the weapon itself. No kill icon, the reload is fucked up, and you can do alot more damage with 4 grenades than 2 that have +10% damage. The loch-n-load? More like the fuck-n-shit.[/QUOTE] It most definitely needs a bigger buff. [editline]19th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Ukuku;26805316]The bombs should explode instead of vanishing.[/QUOTE] No, you're better off just going soldier if they were to explode on contact with walls

Really, just make it so that the grenades do normal direct damage. But have them explode on any surface, and make them travel faster and longer. The lack of 2 grenades is already a major downside.

It seems to be a downside to using c_ models. Most of the first few update weapons were not c_ models if I remember. So they had separate view and world models. easy to work with and animate, but more time consuming. It seems with c_ models it has to rely on a previous set of animations (usually the class defaults) to work as there are no view or world models, just one model. Kind of how GMod SWEPs get their world model animations, they use whatever animations their holdType defines.

I say make Loch n load more like Direct Hit: -Mini crits on air -60%- blast radius -Grenades go faster and explode on touch

[QUOTE=GastricTank;26805694] The loch-n-load? More like the fuck-n-shit.[/QUOTE] Sounds like something the AVGN would say. :smile:

[QUOTE=Nukle;26806318]I say make Loch n load more like Direct Hit: -Mini crits on air -60%- blast radius -Grenades go faster and explode on touch[/QUOTE] Please make it like this. PLEASE VALVE! This is what the Loch-n-Load should of been like the entire time. I mean, really Valve? I like the L&L, and I use it, but.. right now, it's a big-ass downgrade.

I'd say that Loch-n-Load should be like: +25% damage Detonates on impact on enemies or surfaces (explosion guaranteed) +20% projectile speed -50% clip size Concentrated explosion (In practice this means the falloff is HUGE when you start being further away from a grenade. Just being like half a meter away deals only 25-30 dmg. However, it deals huge damage if it's right in your face.)

Actually, this should be the Loch-N-Load stats: +20% damage Explodes on contact with enemies or surfaces -25% clip size +20% projectile speed