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What is scam trading?
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First off, it's not scamming. Scamming is for tricks and bitches. Scam trading is more like "ripping off." It is taking advantage of people little knowledge of rarity. For instance, getting a hat for a weapon.
Will Valve get mad at me?
No. They don't care what goes on in the trade box. If both parties clicked ready, they were both willing.
What's the difference from this and stealing?
Stealing (or real scamming) would be swiping a purse from an old lady and running.
Scam trading would be offering a lady 20 dollars for her purse.
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Dan's Tips
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[*][B]Always trade twice.[/B] You have to remember, most people are trying to play the game. If you were in the middle of trying to beat the shit out of a heavy with a fish, you wouldn't be too inclined to click 'Accept Trade' either. Wait a minute or so, or until you see them die on the killfeed.
[*][B]Fuck NFS.[/B] On the same note of the above rule, ignore 'not for salers'. How many times have you seen someone with 3 hours, and a burning flames tyrants helm, and you asked them for it, and they told you it wasn't for sale? Try to wow them with an offer (remember, not a good offer) and if they decide they actually do want a crit-a-cola, you win!
[*][B]You are scam trading, remember.[/B] Johnny Nick Nack has buds, and you want them bad. He wants a bills hat. You have a bills hat, and you know buds are worth 2 bills hats! You want to give a bills hat to Sally Saliva or whatever the fuck, I don't care. You put in your bills, and he asks for maybe another hat. Then another. Then another. Pretty soon, it's an even deal. Never lose sight of the objective. You are ripping people off, you're not trading fair.
[*][B]Call their bluff.[/B] If the scam-ee knows a liiiiiiiittttle something something about value, he likely wont give it away for free, but with luck, you can convince them that it's lower. If they know that their buds are rare, tell them you cant get much more than a bald engie for them these days. They might be dumb enough to buy it.
[*][B]Life Lines.[/B] If someone is looking for a sandman for their max head or some other amazing deal, but you don't have the weapon, you do have a friends list and [url=http://tf2tp.com]tf2tp[/url]. You could always try to get it in a few minutes.
[*][B]Backpack Awareness.[/b] Always have their tf2items or tf2b backpack open when talking to them in trade. Don't offer hats they already have. And if they are very new and don't have paints or dueling minigames, offer those. Chances are, they will take it in a second.
[*][B]Be multi-lingual.[/B] Get this, lots of TF2 players don't speak english. If Mr. Japan 2010 over here has a big kill, are you just going to give up because he put some alien text in the trade chat? Fight back! Grab a translator and paste what he said in there, then translate your response. Never let a language barrier deter you of a good scam trade.
[*][B]Facepunch, unite![/B] See someone from this thread that you recognize in game, shoot them a trade to say what's up. We're all nice to eachother usually. Just check up on your facepunch bro, and let them know that you're with 'em.
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Wall of Tips (From [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1052070-The-scam-trades-megathread-V2-STOUT-SHAKO-FOR-2-REFINED]V2[/url])
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[*]Always keep a good supply of seemingly useless items (I.E. ellis caps) to deter people who randomly trade you, or in some cases, a good deal.
[*]When someone asks for an offer, always start with your lower valued items/hats. Chances are you can detect an experienced trader by their response.
[*]If something seems too good to be true (I.E. someone asking for a menial value item while offering a much higher valued item) it probably is, and they only seek to scam/troll you.
[*]Never sell your stuff for less then you payed unless it was a stupid deal.
[*]If someone wants a specific hat then they will usually give alot for it.
[*]Consult with the server and friends before a trade so you never do stupid deals.
[*]If someone unboxes a unusual lowball them all day.
[*]When a new item comes out its worth 5x more then normal, slowly decreases until it averages out.
[*]Don't try to smuther and extend the deal to pretend like you are thinking before doing a good deal, the guy would probably come to his senses or will remember a friend of his wants that item in the meantime.
[*]Don't befriends with the guy you are scamming(AKA adding him/he adds you to his friend list), he would probably want those things back, and it's kinda hard to explain that to him.
[*]Ellis caps are really worthy for some newbies, alot of them would offer real hats, also remind them it's an all class hat, and they would probably add alot more.
[*]If someone that looks intelligent offers you a hat nobody wants (Buckaroos,Rack,Prancers) start by saying "Hard to get rid of that X huh?" (X representing the hat), "Been there", the guy would probably understand, thinking that you know the value of things and would then "let you" get a good deal out of it-sounds stupid but it works.
[*]People that don't believe in tiers are goldmines
[*]Somethings that a non-trader won't ever get is why you would offer 1 refined for a hat. To them, 3 refined is a hat and that is the minimum they'd take.
[*]You can actually use the ingame inspect button (For me it's binded to i). Simply point your crosshairs on a teammates and you can see if their hat is vintage, etc. Useful if they're looking for a hat swap
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Scam Trader Hall of Fame
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Psycho_Shadow - "Official [b]KING[/b] of scam trades"
[img]http://avatars.fpcontent.net/image.php?u=313934&dateline=1297292961[/img]
It's rare to go an hour without seeing psycho shadow scamming buds. He, lemon, and murdoco are a major factor in the bud shortage of 2011. He also did the kind act of giving away 2 pairs of buds to some traders who geniunely wanted them.
Lemonator
[img]http://avatars.fpcontent.net/image.php?u=253481&dateline=1296004267[/img]
It's like lemonator has an endless supply of bud scrubs. Whatever trick he has up his sleeves, it's working.
Murdoco
[img]http://avatars.fpcontent.net/image.php?u=247691&dateline=1293591155[/img]
Him, psycho, and lemon are the king scam traders. Look up to them. Bow to them. You aren't going to get the bills hat if you're in the same server as murdoco.
Suttles
[img]http://avatars.fpcontent.net/image.php?u=237868&dateline=1297304635[/img]
He got a fucking VINTAGE alien swarm hat for close to free. Enough said. Thanks to Benlecyborg and The Pretender for helping suttles pull this one off.
Sir Spicy Buns - "Noble Unusual Rescuer :h:"
[img]http://avatars.fpcontent.net/image.php?u=326215&dateline=1297827817[/img]
He pulls some great trades in, but most notably, he returned 2 unusuals from scammers to his friends. He even sacrificed money out of his own pocket to get one back. Great man.
Errorproxy
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Once [url=http://www.tf2items.com/id/errorproxy?time=1293155706]poor and irish[/url], Errorproxy has made a plethora of trades [url=http://img233.imageshack.us/g/vfacadet.png/]leaning in his favor[/url]. In a month his backpack has become an amassment of [url=http://tf2b.com/?id=errorproxy]hats[/url] and beautiful [url=http://tf2b.com/?id=errorproxy2]vintage weapons[/url] . "Never a V. weapon lost. [b]Never.[/b]"
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MaCS
[url]http://steamcommunity.com/groups/staycoolandmature[/url]
Jessecar's Scam Trading Resource Site
[url]http://jaycee.game-host.org:8000/scams/index.php[/url]
[b]Hope you enjoyed this read, and happy scam trading. Oh and never, NEVER, say to someone that you will pay them in paypal cash or promise them items, and then not pay up. That makes you an asshole, not a scam trader.[/b]
Hahahaha, last and first post
Hopefully I will get a pair of Earbuds (for my brother) and a Bill's Hat.
That's part of my target.
Can I be added to the list?
'[highlight]Jiggmin[/highlight]
[img]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/677/banavatar.png[/img]
[highlight]This man started his trilogy of hats by getting a vintage Gatsby for 2 weapons, and look at his backpack now...[/highlight]'
[QUOTE=Schlinky;28205479]Hopefully I will get a pair of Earbuds (for my brother) and a Bill's Hat.
That's part of my target.[/QUOTE]
Make it happen man. You got this!
New thread... new life... new items :3
Wheres that link to this amazing website?
[url]http://jaycee.game-host.org:8000/scams/index.php[/url]
[QUOTE=l33tk00lk1dz49;28205491]Can I be added to the list?
'This man started his trilogy of hats by getting a vintage Gatsby for 2 weapons, and look at his backpack now...'[/QUOTE]
Let's see your backpack!
[QUOTE=Dan*;28205499]Let's see your backpack![/QUOTE]
[url]www.tf2b.com/?id=21p[/url]
[QUOTE=l33tk00lk1dz49;28205491]Can I be added to the list?
'[highlight]Jiggmin[/highlight]
[img_thumb]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/677/banavatar.png[/img_thumb]
[highlight]This man started his trilogy of hats by getting a vintage Gatsby for 2 weapons, and look at his backpack now...[/highlight]'[/QUOTE]
I can find a banned person's avatar: [img]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=263848[/img]
[QUOTE=Jessecar96;28205512]I can find a banned person's avatar: [img_thumb]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=263848[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
Cool , I guess you could use that if I am up there.
[QUOTE=Jessecar96;28205497]Wheres that link to this amazing website?
[url]http://jaycee.game-host.org:8000/scams/index.php[/url][/QUOTE]
PM me with the purpose and future plans, remember!
[QUOTE=Dan*;28205519]PM me with the purpose and future plans, remember![/QUOTE]
just did
[QUOTE=l33tk00lk1dz49;28205511][url]www.tf2b.com/?id=21p[/url][/QUOTE]
Let's see how you do this thread. :v:
Share your buds you greedy bastard hoarders
[QUOTE=HyperTails;28205587]Share your buds you greedy bastard hoarders[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.tf2b.com/?id=goldnuts[/url]
The Great Buds Crisis of 2011.
I'm going to sleep. First scam trade posted in here better be great.
[QUOTE=Dan*;28205633][url]http://www.tf2b.com/?id=goldnuts[/url][/QUOTE]
What a bitch :saddowns:
I don't care so much for the buds as I do all those Lugermorphs and hats.
But fuck that's just retarded to horde that many promo items.
I'm going to try that nfs tip. I found a guy with like 100 hours and a bills and he wouldn't trade it the other day.
I think coverop should be on the Hall of Fame. He managed to snag piles of Earbuds and hats for just a handful of weapons.
v.Hatless Engi + Rake + ref for v.Ushanka. Why is this a scam? Because essentially, I got a v.Ushanka for a Sidney Sleeper, A jag and a rake
Yay, new thread.
Time to fill it with images of trades for Bill's Hats.
Hopefully.
My face when I'm not in scam trading hall of fame.
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My first day of scamming I got: Cadavaers Cranium
V Stash
NV Fosters set
3 nametags
1 description tag
And a lot more weapons to rip people off with
I traded the tags for 3 scrap each, then the 3 scraps for 2 weapons per scrap. Every time I get a tag, I do the same thing. It repeats itself, really. Though, I can't be the first one to come up with this. In fact, Remincat actually was the first, I just went in more depth.
my wrangler for ullapool caber,scotsman skullcutter
nothing compared to you guys
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I hate the hat. but I need it for my collection.
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I hate the hat. but I need it for my collection.[/QUOTE]
I got mine for better, a l'etranger.
I want to get some buds just to get on the hall of fame :frown:
Could three bills and two earbuds snag me a crappy unusual?
[QUOTE=Derposaurus;28207456]I got mine for better, a l'etranger.
I want to get some buds just to get on the hall of fame :frown:[/QUOTE]
I got buds and bills and Im not even in the hall of fame :l
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