Fire or Arcane for PVE - Games

I am trying to find out which is better for PVE Fire or Arcane. I would also like to know the best rotation for each. Thx

doesnt deserve a thread btw arcane

:( thats mean and ok would you mind giving me rotation?

arcane rotation hahahaha

sorry I am new to mages. I played a rogue and a pally somewhat but never a mage

are you level 80

Yes I am.

incoming thongy help

huh?

Here we go, prepare for AWESOME. Arcane is incredible in PvE now thanks to 3.2.2. Here's your rotation: Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast -> Arcane Missiles You use the four AB's to build up your damage buff for AM, and since there's such a huge chance for AB to trigger Missile Barrage, you're almost guaranteed to have it proc by the time you've shot off your fourth AB, and if not, just keep going!

^ thongy help

If you have any more questions, go for it. [editline]08:22PM[/editline] You broke my automerge GB >_>

wow thats such a simple rotation. Thx um for build I have 57/3/11 is that right?

Lemme get you a couple of builds, gimme a min.

alright thank you so much :)

see; if people genuinely need the help and ask for it in an unretarded way, they get it.

Here's a nice Arcane raiding build: [url]http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0ick0IzeGuMtedcZbhc[/url] Gives you most of the goodness from Arcane (minus a couple of handy survival/utility talents) plus the 3% extra hit from Precision in the Frost tree, and a nice crit boost for your AB in the Fire tree. I'll fix up another, more Arcane heavy one, gimme a sec.

ahah how would I have asked for my help in a retarded way I dont even think I know how to :S

[QUOTE=Josh928;17603232]ahah how would I have asked for my help in a retarded way I dont even think I know how to :S[/QUOTE] it was more of a message to the idiots in the section

oh alright haha sorry that was my first retard moment for the site

let it be your last!

Now if you're not short on hit and would prefer more utility/survivability, try this out for size: [url]http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0ifkbIdeGuMtedf[/url] I really like this spec because it makes soloing a lot easier (Magic Absorbtion, Arcane Shielding, Prismatic Cloak, etc), while still keeping great DPS in raids. You could also try taking some points out and putting them into Arcane Stability if you find yourself in close-quarters combat a lot.

alright. also when you say not short on hit how low is 2 short my hit is 270 which I think is fairly low is it not?

is icy veins not worth getting anymore in arcane spec? [editline]08:34PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Josh928;17603364]alright. also when you say not short on hit how low is 2 short my hit is 270 which I think is fairly low is it not?[/QUOTE] you need 17% hit as a mage [editline]08:35PM[/editline] [url]http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t38540-general_mage_discussion_information/[/url] have a read of this then this when you respec arcane [url]http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t42876-arcane_thread/[/url]

17% as most caster classes dependin on class etc.

And finally, an Arcane PvP spec, just for good measure: [url]http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#ofMifzrcdeGuGtxdf[/url] This focuses on movability - firing Arcane Barrages off while running around, the occasional Arcane Blast to buff them up, etc. As well as this, there are a couple of nice talents that buff your shielding spells in there, so keeping your Mana Shield/Frost/Fire etc shields on is a good idea. Hope these helped. [editline]08:38PM[/editline] @ GB - Icy Veins isn't really worth it, no, not when you can take other more useful talents in the main Arcane tree. And yeah, it's 17% hit.

Shit I only have 10.29% What is the first thing I should do to bring my hit up cuz I already have gear but I was always behind in dps so I thought I would ask here for help.

gem for hit

alright. so gem straight hit? like until i reach 17% or should I try to find some gear at all?

post your armoury