Demon's Souls - "I'm in trouble — please recommend this thread!" - Games

Since the PS3 forum closed, and I wouldn't doubt that people who own a PS3 never bothered to go there anyway, I'm remaking the Demon's Souls thread. Onward! [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/demons-souls.jpg[/img] Demon's Souls is a recent PS3 exclusive title from developer [b]From Software[/b], already known for the Armored Core series, Chromehounds, the Tenchu series and Ninja Blade. Demon's Souls is a third person action game in the vein of From Software's old, old franchise King's Field. King's Field was know to be ludicriously hard and huge learning curve. Demon's Souls keeps that tradition pretty damn well. [b][u]So what's the big deal with [i]this[/i] RPG that put's it above the others?[/u][/b] [url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds1.jpg][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds1t.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds2.jpg][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds2t.jpg[/img][/url] Demon's Souls "ain't yo mamma's RPG". It certainly takes keys from a lot of other well know games before it, like King's Field (naturally), Monster Hunter, and we'll throw in one you know like TESIV: Oblivion. It's not just another JRPG that is turned based, has that [i]same[/i] menu in [i]every[/i] JRPG ever made. For a gaming coming from Japan, it's distinctly Western. It has a very dark European background, full voice acting and some of the best environments that can be found in a game today. Equipment comes in all kinds of forms, from long swords to katanas to a Pyramid Head-esque meat cleaver. Enemies range from zombies to dark knights to dragons. Bosses? Gigantic and intimidating. Giants mechanical knights, fire breating spiders (yes, you just read that), a veritable God. Pretty much every imaginable baddie is out for your ass in this game. Did I mention how this game is hard? This game is hard. Like, fucking hard. I cannot emphasis the difficulty of this game. Now, it's not what I like to call "Ninja Gaiden Hard", where the game is difficult to the point of hindering the player (*coughfuckingterribadcameracough*). It is such a well crafted difficulty to the point where the game is never cheap. Your death is always your own fault. And you will die. And there are heavy consequences for that death. There is no long and arduous tutorial. No quick time events. No button mashing. No pop-up hints. You will get mobbed by monsters. You will fight bosses that could very well kill you in one hit. You'll fall of ledges because you didn't watch where you were stepping. There isn't even a pause button! You'll fight tooth and nail to get past each and every level. But God damn it, does it feel rewarding once you do. [b][u]Ok, you've got me now. This game have a story?[/u][/b] [url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds3.jpg][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds3t.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds4.jpg][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds4t.jpg[/img][/url] While the story in Demon's Souls is simple, the world that is created around it is very interesting. It takes place in the fictional European-inspired kingdom of Boletaria, where a corrupt king summons "the Old One" and uses unholy powers to bring unrivaled prosperity to his lands. Prosper it did, but then fell victim to his own vices and traps and abused his power to cause great destruction, causing a great fog to cover the country and summon countless demons to devour the innocent. This is where you come in! You are a lone adventurer who quests into the depths of Boletaria to put a stop to the fog and bring peace to the land, not even death itself can stop your pursuit! That's it. You play the part of a random adventurer out to find your fame. No girl to save, no friend who betrayed you. Just you, the legions of hell, and victory on the other side of them. [b][u]So how does it play?[/u][/b] [url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds5.jpg][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds5t.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds6.jpg][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds6t.jpg[/img][/url] Demon's Souls plays in real time from the third person perspective. You name and design your character yourself and use a system similar to Oblivion's face creation to get your look. There is a vast amount of weapons and armour and two kinds of magic: Spells (mostly offensive attacks) and Miracles (mostly defensive and healing abilities). And you need to take into account your environment. Yeah, you have an huge sword that smacks monsters around, but will it really be of any use in a narrow hallway? Bring aware of your surroundings is key. Every new enemy you come upon will act differently. The most important piece of advice is [b]move slowly, attack carefully[/b]. If you just waltz around playing like it's Ninja Gaiden, your liable to fall off a cliff or become stunlocked by an enemies attacks. You have your tipical Health and Magic, but Demon's Souls also takes hint from The Elder Scroll's and implements and Stamina system for sword attacks and blocking with shields. Every action takes away a certain amount of Stamina, but it's always regenerating. The heavier the attack, the more Stamina you will use. The more hits you take behind your shield, the more Stamina will be drained. Demon's Souls has over a dozen starting "classes", but in actuality it is a classless game. All equipment is dependent on your character stats, so even if you start as a cloth wearing Royal, you can still pick up and use the same heavy armor the Knight has if you have the right statistics. There are certain advantages and challenges from picking each starting class tho. As a Royal, you are well equipped to use magic but don't have a lot of armor or health. As a Thief, you can backstab easier because of your dagger. As a Knight, you have heavy armor and are well equipped for melee combat but roll slowly and have no magic. It is a very well set system. Leveling up is done by the games only currency, Souls. Souls are everything. They will get you higher stats, buy you equipment, potions, increase the effectiveness of your gear, are needed to craft new weapons. If you die, you lose all your Souls, and this is one fact that makes Demon's Souls so punishing. Now, you do have one chance to get them all back from a bloodstain you leave behind in your death, but if you die before you touch that bloodstain, all those Souls are lost. The entire game is based around deep, complex dungeons that take ages to fully explore. Your only refuge from the monsters is the "Nexus" which is the hub or "town" of Demon's Souls. Here you can talk to the locals, level up, learn new magic spells, repair or buy new items and equipment, and store your unwanted junk. Don't think though you've got it all down, New Game+ provides even more to see at the Nexus! Oh yeah, there is a New Game+. Playing in New Game+ raises the difficulty even more! It's a whole new ballgame when you enter your second time around. But it doesn't end after that. You can start a New Game++, and keep going. Every new game raises the difficulty more. [b][u]Is there multiplayer?[/u][/b] [url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds7.jpg][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds7t.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds8.jpg][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds8t.jpg[/img][/url] Oh yeah! Demon's Souls has some of the coolest and original multiplayer interaction ever. [i]Co-Operative[/i] Players can utilize a special item called the "Blue Eye Stone" to set a marker on the ground that acts as a gateway to a multiplayer Co-Operative game. There's no lobby or matchmaking system. Other players online can see your marker and invite you into their world, and soon enough you and two other adventurers will be on your way to slaying some monsters. All three players can receive Souls for their hard work, and they can team up to take out the Boss Demons with better efficiency! As your game together ends, players can grade the host adventure on a scale from D to S and this grade carries with the Host so other players know how good or bad a player they are. [i]Competitive[/i] Don't like playing nice? With the use of the "Black Eye Stone," players with evil intent can literally force themselves into another player's world! Taking the role of the "Black Phantom," the player must hunt out and kill the invaded player to receive a special Souls bonus! However, if the invading Phantom is killed then you lose all your Souls and he gets a big reward for killing you. If you want to join someone in co-op or kill someone by invading, you will only have access to those within 10 levels of you. No picking on newbies, and no getting sent to fight someone much higher than yourself. [i]Educational[/i] Uh...what? Hang on, let me explain this one. Demon's Souls offers a special method of communicating with other players in other worlds, to help (or deceive) other players about events that may be coming up in around that corner, or across that dark bridge. By utilizing a wide selection of stock messages and phrases, players use a bizarre Twitter-esque system of leaving messages on the floor for others to read. These messages can be read by anyone, and can even be graded on their usefulness! Players who leave helpful or nice messages are rewarded with a full health restore! [i]The Pantheon[/i] But wait! There's more! Demon's Souls taps into the desires of envy and jealousy by providing its own Leaderboards. Players can visit The Pantheon at the very top of The Nexus to see who the greatest Boletarian adventurers are. Ever wonder who has the most PKs? Who's played the longest? Who's got the most souls or the most Trophies? The Pantheon tells all. [b][u]Ok, I want this game. As in right now. How do I get it?[/u][/b] [url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds9.jpg][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds9t.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds10.jpg][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9706450/ds10t.jpg[/img][/url] For the longest time you would have to import the Asian version, but not any more! As of October 2009, Atlus has published Demon's Souls here in the US! Demon's Souls was also released in the EU by Namco-Bandi on June 25, 2010. All versions have their own online servers. EU cannot play with US, Asian cannot play with EU, etc. [b][u]I live off review scores.[/u][/b] Fine. Be like that. Demon's Souls has gotten very positive reviews since it's asian release in January 2009. Famitsu: 9 / 7 / 7 / 6 Dengeki: 95 / 85 / 85 / 85 [url=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/demons-souls-review?page=3]Eurogamer: 9 / 10[/url] [url=http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Demons_Souls/index.html]RPGFan: 84%[/url] [url=http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/demonssoul/index.html?tag=topten;all;4]GameSpot: 9.0[/url] [url=http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/gamer-limit-review-demons-souls/]Gamer Limit: 9.5[/url] [url=http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/demons-souls/review/demons-souls/a-200909211252364019/g-20090520131315176027]GamesRadar: 9[/url] [url=http://www.gametrailers.com/gamereview.php?id=10372]GameTrailers: 8.9[/url] [url=http://ps3.ign.com/articles/103/1033437p1.html]IGN: 9.4[/url] Now, slayer of demon's...[b]go forth![/b] [b][u]Helpful Links![/u][/b] Below are several helpful links for those who need specific info regarding the game. Personally, I'm telling you not to use any of these on your first game because it ruins the fun, but if you really have to, go for it. [url=http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/]Demon's Souls Wiki[/url] - A comprehensive Demon's Souls wiki, started thanks to the people at SomethingAwful. This is the most comprehensive Demon's Souls resource there it. Maps, weapon, armor, upgrades, character builds...it has it all. [url=http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/954345-demons-souls/faqs/59592]Ultimate Demon's Souls PvP Guide[/url] - Possibly all you wanted to know about PvP. What weapons to use, what builds to play and how to play them. A very good guide if you want to maximize in PvP. [url=http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/chat]Demon's Souls Ventrilo[/url] - This is a Ventrilo chat server maintained by the guys who run the Demon's Souls wiki. People hang out here throughout the day/night/whenever and talk shop. Some of the best DS players are on here and everyone is always up for a friendly duel. Not a lot of microphones, but everyone is usually in chat. [i]Note: Pretty dead now.[/i] [url=http://forums.demonssouls.info/]Demon's Souls Forum[/url] - Another product of the great people who maintain the Demon's Souls wiki! If I need to tell you what a forum is about then you have some issues. [i]Note: Still active![/i]

I have just ordered this off eBay for £45 with delivery, not bad for the US version I guess :) Can't wait to try it.

The PS3 forum wasn't closed, just moved ([url]http://www.facepunch.com/forumdisplay.php?f=314[/url]). Anyways I'll have to import this game, I was going to get it from Lockerz but they removed it. Actually ignore what I said, it seems to be closed for the moment (but why just close it? It will probably be re-opened soon since it's in Featured Games (and yes I know what Hezzy said, but I think he'd remove them if he wasn't thinking of re-opening them one day)).

Hoping to get this with christmas money, looking forward to it.

Still hoping mine will arrive anytime soon, ordered from videogamesplus.ca and should be here any day now. :iia: Any tips for someone that'll be starting out soon other than get used to the deaths? :v:

I didn't like the thread I made being in the Sony section anyhow. Not enough people in the Sony subforum so there isn't a lot of discussion, much better to have a thread in GGD.

This game is hardcore. It will rape your butthole [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ichM5daUc58[/media]

Been trying to get this since it came out but NO ONE has it in stock or they just sold their last copy before I get there, I'm just going to order it online now like I should have from the start :\

There were a lot of people in the Sony subforum. Just they all posted in the PSN thread.

And the OP is updated. Images and helpful links added.

Well shit. I had this at the top of my gamefly list and they sent me Lego Batman instead. WTF Gamefly?

You can actually beat this game in around ten minutes, if you're skilled enough. The first boss thing, the Vanguard. If you kill it, you move on to the last boss. But, you'll probably die instantly, because you just started.

I love this damn game I hate it But I love it

[QUOTE=Confused111;18838273]You can actually beat this game in around ten minutes, if you're skilled enough. The first boss thing, the Vanguard. If you kill it, you move on to the last boss. But, you'll probably die instantly, because you just started.[/QUOTE] No. You can kill the Vanguard at the end of the tutorial, but after him you walk into the Dragon God's lair (end boss of World 2) and he punches you in the face. On another note, it seems like my luck finally ran out. I had a real good run getting lucky with Soul Sigil's after a Black Phantom invaded my game until now. In 4-2, I had a Black Phantom invade while I was fighting a Black Skeleton. Killed the skeleton and then saw a Soul Sigil. I summoned the guy but the first thing I noticed is that he was...awkwardly geared. I didn't think much of it, but then the Black Phantom showed up and the guy was clueless as to what to do. He died, I died. Well, half a dozen Black Phantom kills isn't bad before the next one offed me. 4-2 is kind of a pain in the ass, but the Old Hero, the boss, is easy as shit if you have the Thief's Ring.

Huh this games bullshit the only way to become a [b]REAL[/b] Demon slayer is to jump off a tall building!

[QUOTE=Banned?;18839287]No. You can kill the Vanguard at the end of the tutorial, but after him you walk into the Dragon God's lair (end boss of World 2) and he punches you in the face.[/QUOTE] I did not know this. Does it happen when you fight him regularly? Getting punched in the face?

this game owns real post just take it from me, james 'game master' jasper

[QUOTE=Confused111;18839840]I did not know this. Does it happen when you fight him regularly? Getting punched in the face?[/QUOTE] Well, if you beat the boss in the tutorial, it's a cut scene. You [B]will[/B] die at the end of the tutorial no matter what. When you actually fight him, yes, he can punch and kill you in one shot as well, but you'll have the chance to kill him, obviously.

Here's a tip Quickly press the PS button and quit the game when you die Fucking black phantoms

[QUOTE=PILLS HERE!;18843837]Here's a tip Quickly press the PS button and quit the game when you die Fucking black phantoms[/QUOTE] If your doing that you just straight up suck at the game.

Hoping I get this for christmas, looks like fun times.

Just remember to have your finger on the block button AT ALL TIMES

[QUOTE=Confused111;18844905]Just remember to have your finger on the block button AT ALL TIMES[/QUOTE] Pretty much. In a new area? Walk slowly, block up.

[QUOTE=PILLS HERE!;18843837]Here's a tip Quickly press the PS button and quit the game when you die Fucking black phantoms[/QUOTE] That also has a chance of fucking up your save function too, here's a box so when you can no longer load your character, you can stare at this box to remind yourself of the good times. Yeah, I'm enjoying my guy for now, my 3 stats are vit, str, and dex. I haven't really invested into any spells other than Soul Arrow, but I'm thinking of putting a level or two into magic, because I'm beginning to find the usefullness of soul arrow.

[QUOTE=Confused111;18838273]You can actually beat this game in around ten minutes, if you're skilled enough. The first boss thing, the Vanguard. If you kill it, you move on to the last boss. But, you'll probably die instantly, because you just started.[/QUOTE] That's not the last boss. Hell, it can be the 4th boss out of what, 18? And yeah what Banned? said, can't win etc.

General character hints... You don't need Endurance past 40. After that the stat becomes redundant. Never level Luck. Don't even worry about drop rate. Every other stat is way more important. If Magic or Faith is not your primary focus, you don't need more than 100 mana. That's about 15 Intelligence. If your not focused on Magic or Faith, but still want some good use out of it, 20 isn't a bad number to have them sit at. 20 Intelligence too. That will get you Three Magic slots and two Miracle slots.

Pro-Tip: Shoot the Demon's Souls to kill it

Looks like fun, if I stumble upon a copy, I'll definitely buy it.

[QUOTE=venom;18847858]Looks like fun, if I stumble upon a copy, I'll definitely buy it.[/QUOTE] You should viciously seek out a copy instead.

This game looks so epic, but I don't have PS3. :argh: So annoying that PS3 gets epic exclusives. :frown: