Source film maker - Illegal or legal?

[soccerskyman]

I want to get a copy of source film maker, but I hear it's illegal too do so. Is this true?

[Beardy]

illegal

[Spiderface]

It's legal. If you had the TF2 beta legally, that is.

[SevenFiveSeven]

It's illegal.

But no one really cares and I doubt Valve cares.

[odellus]

It's illegal only if you weren't part of the TF2 beta.

[MaxOfS2D]

It's illegal to get via torrents and such — as far as I know the only legal way was to get it in 2007 when Valve leaked it :p

[Beardy]

[QUOTE=Max of S2D;23551205]It's illegal to get via torrents and such — as far as I know the only legal way was to get it in 2007 when Valve leaked it :p[/QUOTE]

valve didn't leak it in 2007.

[MaxOfS2D]

[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;23551240]valve didn't leak it in 2007.[/QUOTE]

well then how did it ever see the light of the day, tell me

[StevenFX]

[QUOTE=Max of S2D;23551286]well then how did it ever see the light of the day, tell me[/QUOTE]

It was a part of the beta, and Valve knew it was there.

[Beardy]

[QUOTE=Max of S2D;23551286]well then how did it ever see the light of the day, tell me[/QUOTE]

because nobody ever considered looking in the old .gcf files and digging around to activate the source film maker. it was found back in january 2010.

[ScoutKing]

[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;23551440]because nobody ever considered looking in the old .gcf files and digging around to activate the source film maker. it was found back in january 2010.[/QUOTE]

ehhh not really found a little while before January 2010

[Beardy]

[QUOTE=ScoutKing;23551566]ehhh not really found a little while before January 2010[/QUOTE]

january is when the majority of the people found out about source film maker.

[rotaivA]

Who cares if it's illegal? It's not like everyone who's ever had a PC ever hasn't torrented something illegally once or twice before, right?

[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Do not talk about warez" - Rusty100))[/highlight]

[Dasein]

Wrong.

[Mr Skeltal]

No, people found it in 2007. I remember watching a SFM video dated with 2007.

[the_KMM]

It'll be legal when all the Meet the Team videos are released.

[Amaurus]

[QUOTE=the_KMM;23566106]It'll be legal if all the Meet the Team videos are released.[/QUOTE]

fixed.

[Seibitsu]

[QUOTE=MAspiderface;23551134]It's legal. If you had the TF2 beta legally, that is.[/QUOTE]

So it's ilegal since you can't get that copy legally.

[Wingar]

[QUOTE=Seibitsu;23585170]So it's ilegal since you can't get that copy legally.[/QUOTE]

He means if you were in the beta from tf2, it wasn't just valve who played the beta some of the community got access to it.