Sony Stocks raise 8% during Microsoft XBOX One release, it keeps going
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This is just amazing, panic attack from speculators
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No, its not fake, here is the [url=http://es.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=SNE#symbol=sne;range=1d;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;]source[/url]
Good for Sony, though
I think this is just stupid and overreaction, what do you guys think?
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;40729069]So I guess people didn't like XBox One?[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing Ps4 is the [i]least bad[/i] option.
To be honest, if all the 'exclusives' were available on PC there wouldn't be anything where a console can be better than a PC.
I think they don't realize that playing is about learning and by releasing fifa14, forza5, madden99999, halo10, cod15, bf34 they are just milking something that will eventually collapse and then it will be too late to go back to the basics.
I think Nintendo is the one doing it right, despite 3DS and WiiU poor early results, they can do Mario-Zelda-DK-Metroid in every generation but they innovate almost every time, it isn't Call of Duty 15.
/rant
[QUOTE=Tsanummy;40729495]
I think Nintendo is the one doing it right, despite 3DS and WiiU poor early results, they can do Mario-Zelda-DK-Metroid in every generation but they innovate almost every time, it isn't Call of Duty 15.[/QUOTE]
[snickering intensifies]
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;40729540][snickering intensifies][/QUOTE]
Well, like I said, they failed but knowing the philosophy they've been using for almost 30 years they have the power to recover and reinvent like they always do, yes, they are messing up badly with the kinda extreme innovation with the tablet controller, 3ds, etc.. But that isn't as toxic as what Sony, EA, Microsoft and company do.
However a lot of people will just buy PS4 and XBOX and I'm pretty sure just a few of the people who play videogames actually gives two fucks about this and that, they just buy and play no matter how shitty it is. That applies to everything, most of the people don't want to think. They don't care if the product is good, if it is innovative, if it is worth it, their friends buy it and it is advertised on TV, it must be good.
I guess we're just fools who think we're able to judge this and that, if they make profit good for them, the problem is with the consumer not with the company that makes money with this strategy, if people started demanding more creative games and new forms of gameplay the companies will just adapt. But they don't want to stop doing what they do until they start losing money. I'm pretty sure EA has some good ideas for games who could break concepts and innovate, but they don't invest on developing that if they can just put two teams in Fifa14 and make twice the money than a masterpiece.
[QUOTE=Tsanummy;40729495]I'm guessing Ps4 is the [i]least bad[/i] option.
To be honest, if all the 'exclusives' were available on PC there wouldn't be anything where a console can be better than a PC.
I think they don't realize that playing is about learning and by releasing fifa14, forza5, madden99999, halo10, cod15, bf34 they are just milking something that will eventually collapse and then it will be too late to go back to the basics.
I think Nintendo is the one doing it right, despite 3DS and WiiU poor early results, they can do Mario-Zelda-DK-Metroid in every generation but they innovate almost every time, it isn't Call of Duty 15.
/rant[/QUOTE]
Oh, did you hear New New Super New Wii Mario ++ U 2: Electric Boogaloo got released?
The PS3 in general did its sequels right (MGS series, GT) and introduced plenty of excellent unique games like Uncharted and JRPGS as well as having a large cross-platform library (CoD), a decent online system and decent HD remakes of things that needed to be remade (Okami).
The main disadvantage of the PS3 was that it was hard to develop for due to its obscure architecture, which ended in Valve games, Skyrim and (to an extent) GTAIV fudging up the system (the [i]599 US dollars[/i] was a disadvantage too, but it went down and a blu-ray player cost more back then). Now Sony is releasing the PS4 which remedies that by using common PC architecture, which brings more compatibility with PC and ease of development into play.
The strategy Sony is going for with the PS4 (use cheap off-the-shelf parts and a common architecture to make it cheap and reliable to develop for and produce) is more solid than any gimmick or new feature that the other two companies have put out, and it has enormous potential to pay off in the long run for those reasons.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;40729871]Oh, did you hear New New Super New Wii Mario ++ U 2: Electric Boogaloo got released?
The PS3 in general did its sequels right (MGS series, GT) and introduced plenty of excellent unique games like Uncharted and JRPGS as well as having a large cross-platform library (CoD), a decent online system and decent HD remakes of things that needed to be remade (Okami).
The main disadvantage of the PS3 was that it was hard to develop for due to its obscure architecture, which ended in Valve games, Skyrim and (to an extent) GTAIV fudging up the system (the [i]599 US dollars[/i] was a disadvantage too, but it went down and a blu-ray player cost more back then). Now Sony is releasing the PS4 which remedies that by using common PC architecture, which brings more compatibility with PC and ease of development into play.
The strategy Sony is going for with the PS4 (use cheap off-the-shelf parts and a common architecture to make it cheap and reliable to develop for and produce) is more solid than any gimmick or new feature that the other two companies have put out, and it has enormous potential to pay off in the long run for those reasons.[/QUOTE]
The market works like that and they have to make profit of the franchise like the good fat milking cow 'Super Mario Bros' series are. But it doesn't mean they do a lot more of innovation or at least TRY to (and fail too many times) than other big videogame companies
This happens every time there is a reveal. When Sony announced the PS4 their stock went down. When Apple revealed the new iPhone their stock went down. It means nothing.
Sorry but this is basic market fluctuations. There isn't anything funny or ironic about it.
You can see the 8% rise in the way that the graph moves upwards.
It's stabilizing. Shit's staying this way, it seems.
[img]https://www.google.no/finance/chart?q=NYSE:SNE&tlf=12&chst=vks&p=1d&chs=330x96&chsc=1[/img]
Ps4 is the way for me, I hardly play console so most of my games are second hand but even then you still have to pay for Live to just use the on demand stuff.
I'll probably be sticking with Wii U and PC this gen.
Xbox 1 does not look good at all right now.
PS4 might sway me but I need to sit on it for a bit.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;40729871]Oh, did you hear New New Super New Wii Mario ++ U 2: Electric Boogaloo got released?
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The New Super Mario Bros. games are pretty much just filler titles. All the other sequals they do add a lot more content generally and try to change/innovate.
trying to single out only 1 game/spinoff series doesn't help your argument that well.
[QUOTE=DrCactus;40730357]I'll probably be sticking with Wii U and PC this gen.
Xbox 1 does not look good at all right now.
PS4 might sway me but I need to sit on it for a bit.
The New Super Mario Bros. games are pretty much just filler titles. All the other sequals they do add a lot more content generally and try to change/innovate.
trying to single out only 1 game/spinoff series doesn't help your argument that well.[/QUOTE]
Except those 'filler titles' are a whole SERIES. They haven't released an actually new and innovative Mario game since the first galaxies.
[QUOTE=Fish_poke;40730931]Except those 'filler titles' are a whole SERIES. They haven't released an actually new and innovative Mario game since the first galaxies.[/QUOTE]
Idunno man.
3D Land was a pretty damn good game, and didn't feel like the usual copy and paste the NSMB games are.
And I'm pretty sure the upcoming 3D Mario will be just as good as galaxy.
Edit:
and, if you count games like Paper Mario, where they did try to change the game up. A long with Luigi's Mansion, which was a really great sequel, that also added plenty of new mechanics.
There's also the upcoming Mario & Luigi for 3DS, that also appears to be trying to do something different.
Don't See how either posts were dumb. But ok guys, enjoy your mindless bashing.
[QUOTE=Fish_poke;40730931]Except those 'filler titles' are a whole SERIES. They haven't released an actually new and innovative Mario game since the first galaxies.[/QUOTE]
Even Wii and NSMBU had some minor changes that shook things up though.
Wii had cooperative multiplayer that basically had everything Miyamoto was trying to put into Mario games for years but couldn't due to hardware limitations..
U took that cooperative multiplayer and added an extra player into the mix that could help or hinder the people playing. Then there were the bonus modes that added little challenges.
Had they not released NSMB2, it would've only been 3 titles released in the span of 6 years. But both 2 and U were developed by completely seperate teams, 2 being developed by the team that will take over Mario games development when Miyamoto retires. What they made was pretty good in it's own right. The level design was just as good as anything Miyamoto's team could've made. Coin Rush was a stupid addition though.
Also, it's been 3 years since Galaxy 2 came out. There was a 3 year gap in between Galaxy 1 and 2. There was also a 3 year gap between all of the NSMB titles (aside from NSMB2 and U, which, as I said, were developed by different teams.) You can try to spin this any way you want to, but the fact of the matter is that these games do take time to develop and the only crime the NSMB series has ever committed is Asset Reuse. The games are still fun and they still sell a lot.
It's pretty normal for this to happen.
Also, it seems that everyone hates the One, I think a lot of people don't realise that MS are leaving the games part of it until E3. There's only so much you can show if you're trying to stay away from games (besides the teasers shown), so they pretty much had to go in-depth with the TV part of it.
[QUOTE=TheAdmiester;40732470]It's pretty normal for this to happen.
Also, it seems that everyone hates the One, I think a lot of people don't realise that MS are leaving the games part of it until E3. There's only so much you can show if you're trying to stay away from games (besides the teasers shown), so they pretty much had to go in-depth with the TV part of it.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. This reveal leaves them a lot more time to talk about the games when they have their presentation, so it's good that they got the hardware and the non-gaming features out of the way.
[QUOTE=Tsanummy;40729658]Well, like I said, they failed but knowing the philosophy they've been using for almost 30 years they have the power to recover and reinvent like they always do, yes, they are messing up badly with the kinda extreme innovation with the tablet controller, 3ds, etc.. But that isn't as toxic as what Sony, EA, Microsoft and company do.
However a lot of people will just buy PS4 and XBOX and I'm pretty sure just a few of the people who play videogames actually gives two fucks about this and that, they just buy and play no matter how shitty it is. That applies to everything, most of the people don't want to think. They don't care if the product is good, if it is innovative, if it is worth it, their friends buy it and it is advertised on TV, it must be good.
I guess we're just fools who think we're able to judge this and that, if they make profit good for them, the problem is with the consumer not with the company that makes money with this strategy, if people started demanding more creative games and new forms of gameplay the companies will just adapt. But they don't want to stop doing what they do until they start losing money. I'm pretty sure EA has some good ideas for games who could break concepts and innovate, but they don't invest on developing that if they can just put two teams in Fifa14 and make twice the money than a masterpiece.[/QUOTE] Honestly, you hit the nail on the head. Most people don't think twice; it's still a gigantic brand name either way, everyone knows what a Playstation/Xbox is. The common consumer doesn't care, which is the majority of the market. That's why CoD is so profitable, it's a brand name that everyone knows
Picking up a PS4.
Going with PS4/Wii-U/Shitty-Indie-PC-games-because-my-tower-is-a-piece-of-shit
Also people saying NO IT'S A KNEEJERK REACTION, not really. I think with each awful announcement and bad bit of media getting out that it's only natural for rival companies to flourish. Like gamers aren't the only ones who realize how scummy and awful this thing sounds.
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Also I hear Nintendo's stock went up as well, any truth behind that?
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[QUOTE=TheAdmiester;40732470]It's pretty normal for this to happen.
Also, it seems that everyone hates the One, I think a lot of people don't realise that MS are leaving the games part of it until E3. There's only so much you can show if you're trying to stay away from games (besides the teasers shown), so they pretty much had to go in-depth with the TV part of it.[/QUOTE]
Didn't something like this happen last year? Like people thought they were just getting the TV/Social stuff out of the way then when E3 happened it was just more social stuff?
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