What happened to all the scientists and guards who survived the Black Mesa incident?
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Since I have beaten HL, BS, OF, HL2 and EP1 I still ask myself this question. What happened to them? The only scientist you find in the HL2 series is Kleiner, and the only guard is Barney.
Please i´d like you to discuss this, I have already checked the combine overwiki but it didn´t work. Thanks.
The ones who escaped probably encountered the combine, or just got killed by the nuke
I assume you mean Rosenberg, Walter, and Simmons?
Nobody knows because it's never explained.
[QUOTE=Magikoopa24;23709213]The ones who escaped probably encountered the combine, or just got killed by the nuke[/QUOTE]
I mean the ones like for example escaped by car (like barney)
People who completely scaped?
You notice how the [B]scientists[/B] are always hiding (Kleiner on his secret lab, Eli on Black Mesa East), and Barney is undercover with Civil Protection. Probably the Combine wanted to shoot down every Black Mesa survivor.
Or perhaps Breen ordered them to do that, in fear of something going wrong.
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;23709317]You notice how the [B]scientists[/B] are always hiding (Kleiner on his secret lab, Eli on Black Mesa East), and Barney is undercover with Civil Protection. Probably the Combine wanted to shoot down every Black Mesa survivor.
Or perhaps Breen ordered them to do that, in fear of something going wrong.[/QUOTE]
no more scientists or guards survived? keep in mind Black Mesa had a very big personnel. I dont think 90% of the people who worked there died!
It's ironic actually...
After the teleporter incident, there are 2 cityscanners, but before Kleiner can close his shades, they take a picture.
You would think the combine cared about a secret lab...
[QUOTE=minilandstan;23709393]It's ironic actually...
After the teleporter incident, there are 2 cityscanners, but before Kleiner can close his shades, they take a picture.
You would think the combine cared about a secret lab...[/QUOTE]
those two tooks photos of you, not the lab.
besides, you can kill them with a wooden pallet
They un-cloned them selves.
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[QUOTE=Hell-met;23709420]those two tooks photos of you, not the lab.
besides, you can kill them with a wooden pallet[/QUOTE]
They takes photos of you when you're standing next to the shutters.
[QUOTE=aolflash2;23709375]no more scientists or guards survived? keep in mind Black Mesa had a very big personnel. I dont think 90% of the people who worked there died![/QUOTE]
You're forgetting the military came in pretty swiftly so not that many could probably get out. And quite a lot of people just stayed in locked rooms until either aliens/The military/The Nuclear bomb got them.
They turned into combines and headcrab zombies.
Barney didn't give them the beers so they frowned heavily at pictures of a Barney clone :saddowns:
You forgot Eli.
Male prostitution.
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[QUOTE=UnknownDude;23711538]You forgot Eli.[/QUOTE]
He got lucky.
[QUOTE=Theman!;23714337]Considering in Blue Shift it showed that Black Mesa was destroyed by a thermonuclear weapon (although i'm not definite how canon that is considering it's made by a third party), anyhow even without that the military / Xen aliens probably did a pretty swift job of killing off Black Mesa employee's, also the few that escaped might have been killed off by the Combine (either through the seven hour war of just as said before hunted down by Breen and the Combine or just killed randomly).[/QUOTE]
I forgot who, but one of the employees at Valve called both Opposing Force and Blue Shift Canon to the Half-Life Universe, except for Race X, I believe.
Some probably became citizens, some went into hiding, some escaped to the country side or some shit and the others were combine-ised.
Seven hour war happened. There were probably little survivors seeing as there are barely any elderly in half life 2.
Survived:
Isaac Kleiner (scientist)
Wallace Breen (administrator)
Barney Calhoun (guard)
Arne Magnusson (scientist)
Judith Mossman (scientist)
Uriah (vortigaunt)
Alyx Vance (baby at the time)
Eli Vance (scientist)
Unknown:
Gina Cross (scientist)
Colette Green (scientist)
Richard Keller (scientist)
R-4913 (vortigaunt)
X-8973 (vortigaunt)
_____ Rosenberg (scientist)
Adrien Shepherd (HECU)
Walter Bennet (scientist)
_____ Simmons (scientist)
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;23709241]I assume you mean Rosenberg, Walter, and Simmons?
Nobody knows because it's never explained.[/QUOTE]
Dr. Rosenberg seemed pretty old and out of shape in Blue Shift. He was the only scientist that needed to stop for a rest when he was following you. Considering that HL2 takes place about 20 years later, he may very well have died of old age.
[QUOTE=ColossalSoft;23715091]Survived:
Isaac Kleiner (scientist)
Wallace Breen (administrator)
Barney Calhoun (guard)
Arne Magnusson (scientist)
Judith Mossman (scientist)
Uriah (vortigaunt)
Alyx Vance (baby at the time)
Eli Vance (scientist)
Unknown:
Gina Cross (scientist)
Colette Green (scientist)
Richard Keller (scientist)
R-4913 (vortigaunt)
X-8973 (vortigaunt)
_____ Rosenberg (scientist)
Adrien Shepherd (HECU)
Walter Bennet (scientist)
_____ Simmons (scientist)[/QUOTE]
Was Mossman at blackmesa at the time? According to Eli she was trying to get Gordon's job back then. She also says it would have been an honor to be working with Eli and them when they were at the top of their fields.
[QUOTE=winsanity;23715345]Was Mossman at blackmesa at the time? According to Eli she was trying to get Gordon's job back then. She also says it would have been an honor to be working with Eli and them when they were at the top of their fields.[/QUOTE]
She was in another department.
[QUOTE=ColossalSoft;23715091]
Adrien Shepherd (HECU)[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly sure [i]Adrian[/i] is still alive, just in Gordon-like stasis (unlikely to be revived for another game though.)
It would be nice to have a reference to him somewhere though. He was such a badass.
What are you talking about? Most black mesa personnel were unable to crouch, get over boxes, unless they found a staircase to the surface survival is unlikely.
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;23716493]I'm fairly sure [i]Adrian[/i] is still alive, just in Gordon-like stasis (unlikely to be revived for another game though.)
It would be nice to have a reference to him somewhere though. He was such a badass.[/QUOTE]
I never said he was dead.
Spin Off of the Half-Life 2 series where you play as Adrian would be awesome. Made by Valve of course.
[QUOTE=ColossalSoft;23715091]Survived:
Isaac Kleiner (scientist)
Wallace Breen (administrator)
Barney Calhoun (guard)
Arne Magnusson (scientist)
Judith Mossman (scientist)
Uriah (vortigaunt)
Alyx Vance (baby at the time)
Eli Vance (scientist)
Unknown:
Gina Cross (scientist)
Colette Green (scientist)
Richard Keller (scientist)
R-4913 (vortigaunt)
X-8973 (vortigaunt)
_____ Rosenberg (scientist)
Adrien Shepherd (HECU)
Walter Bennet (scientist)
_____ Simmons (scientist)[/QUOTE]
Corporal Shepherd's in stasis with the GMan, Gina Cross is dead, and as for Rosenberg and Simmons, I can assume that they went on with life as normal as can be after they escaped with Barney. The vorts... Well... Who cares? They were probably freed from Nilianth's rule, became enslaved by the Combine, then most likely broke free from [I]their[/I] rule, and then to help the humans.
[QUOTE=Hell-met;23709420]besides, you can kill them with a wooden pallet[/QUOTE]
I have done this on every single playthrough of HL2, except with a barrel. You can get an extra suit charger by destroying them.
[QUOTE=ColossalSoft;23715091]Survived:
Isaac Kleiner (scientist)
Wallace Breen (administrator)
Barney Calhoun (guard)
Arne Magnusson (scientist)
Judith Mossman (scientist)
Uriah (vortigaunt)
Alyx Vance (baby at the time)
Eli Vance (scientist)
Unknown:
Gina Cross (scientist)
Colette Green (scientist)
Richard Keller (scientist)
R-4913 (vortigaunt)
X-8973 (vortigaunt)
_____ Rosenberg (scientist)
Adrien Shepherd (HECU)
Walter Bennet (scientist)
_____ Simmons (scientist)[/QUOTE]
Gina Cross was found dead on Xen in Opposing Force
[B]Corporal[/B] Shepherd
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