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[b]Pokémon Megathread v8[/b]
Nostalgia(Claiming generation one is the best) will be laughed at.
Pokémon is a series of video games primarily for Nintendo handheld game systems, as well as the overarching franchise based on these games. Though many things differ depending on a specific canon's interpretation of the series, what remains constant is the focus on creatures known as Pokémon, which can be captured, trained, and used to compete against one another in battle or, more recently, other activities.
[b]History of Pokémon games,[/b]
[img]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/93/Bag_Pok%C3%A9_Ball_Sprite.png[/img][b]Gen I[/b] Coveted for its nostalgia but only that. 151 Pokémon Added
Red, Blue and Yellow (RBY)
Pokémon Snap!
Pokémon Stadium
And a few others not really worth mentioning.
[img]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/93/Bag_Pok%C3%A9_Ball_Sprite.png[/img][b]Gen II[/b] Breeding, Shinys, Hold Items, Happiness, Time system and Genders were added. 100 Pokémon Added
Gold, Silver and Crystal (GSC)
Pokémon Stadium II
[img]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/93/Bag_Pok%C3%A9_Ball_Sprite.png[/img][b]Gen III[/b] Contests, Abilitys, Natures, Reform of IV/EV and Double battles. 135 Pokémon Added
Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald (RSE)
Fire Red, Leaf Green (FRLG)
Pokémon Colosseum
Pokémon Ranger
Mystery Dungeon
Various others
[img]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/93/Bag_Pok%C3%A9_Ball_Sprite.png[/img][b]Gen IV[/b] A Complete Battle Frontier, Wifi, Global Trading Center(GTC), Complete Meta Game*, 3D rendering of the overworld. 107 Pokémon Added
Diamond, Pearl and Platinum (DPt)
HeartGold and SoulSilver (HGSS)
Pokémon Battle Revolution
Ranger/Dungeon Sequels
[img]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/93/Bag_Pok%C3%A9_Ball_Sprite.png[/img][B]Gen V [/B] Triple Battles, Rotation Battles, Dreamworld and Loads of Wifi Features.
Black And White
[img]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/f9/Bag_Moon_Ball_Sprite.png[/img][b]Helpful Sources:[/b]
[url]http://pokebeach.com/[/url] - [url]http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml[/url] -General Pokemon News and info
[url]http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page[/url] -The Pokémon Wiki, In-depth info on everything Pokémon
[url]http://www.smogon.com/[/url] -Competitive Play information and guides
[url]http://pokemon-online.eu/[/url] -Very nice battle simulator. I approve.
[img]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/f9/Bag_Moon_Ball_Sprite.png[/img][b]Metagame Guide[/b] Mostly Copy-pasta from [url=http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/intro_comp_pokemon]Smogon[/url]
Finish the game and dont know what to do? Thats because most people overlook competitive play for Pokémon. Plus its really fun.
Competitive play requires knowledge of what Pokémon might be paired up on a team, what moves they might have, and how you can use your pokemon to win.
[b]Tiers[/b]
Most of the competitive community follows the Smogon tiers and clauses. Note: What pokemon go in what tiers is determined by usage, not just power.
[b]UBER-[/b] Ubers are Pokémon that are considered too powerful for the OU metagame. The Uber tier is not meant to be a balanced tier, and therefore isn't the main metagame. Every Pokémon is allowed in this tier.
[b]OU/Overused-[/b] OverUsed is the main metagame and used for most competitive battles and tournaments. It is the balanced tier that bans as few Pokémon as possible. However, placement in OU is based on usage rather than power, because power is difficult to gauge objectively. A Pokémon is OU if it shows up in 1 out of every 20 teams in the standard metagame.
[b]BL/Borderline-[/b] Borderline is a non-competitive tier that has a function similar to that of Ubers. It is to include Pokémon that aren't used sufficiently to be considered OU, but are too powerful to be used in UU.
[b]UU/Underused-[/b] UnderUsed is a lower competitive metagame than OU and is generally composed of Pokémon that aren't powerful enough to compete in OU. It is also based on usage.
[b]NU/Neverused-[/b] NeverUsed is the lowest tier in the system and denoted Pokémon that are extremely weak. It is based on usage and doesn't exist in RBY or GSC, due to there not being enough Pokémon.
[b]NFE/Not Fully Evolved-[/b] Pokemon that are not fully evolved.
[b]Limbo-[/b] Limbo serves as a place where Pokémon that do not yet have a decided tier are put.
OU is the most common tier
[b]Clauses[/b]
Small, individual sets of rules that can be selected by the trainers before the battle. Basicaly removes bullshit and adds balance.
[b]Evasion Clause*[/b]
Moves that boost evasion (i.e. Double Team and Minimize) are not allowed. (Accupuncture is allowed)
[b]Freeze Clause[/b]
Two or more Pokémon on a team cannot be frozen at the same time.
[b]Sleep Clause*[/b]
Two or more Pokémon on a team cannot be asleep at the same time. Self-induce sleep via rest does not activate Sleep Clause.
[b]OHKO Clause*[/b]
One-Hit KO moves are not allowed.
[b]Species Clause*[/b]
Two or more of the same Pokémon may not be used on the same team.
[b]Self KO Clause[/b]
If both players have only one Pokémon left, moves which KO both the user and the opponent are not allowed (e.g. Explosion, Destiny Bond). If recoil damage would cause a tie, Self KO Clause does not activate, and the player who last attacked is the winner.
[b]Item Clause[/b]
All Pokémon on a team must hold different items. This is not a standard clause in competitive play, but it is used in Nintendo tournaments.
* Indicates Standard Clause
[b]Stat Mechanics[/b] This section is pure copy-pasta.
These are mechanics that affect the statistics of a Pokémon, and thus affect its ability to give, take, and avoid damage.
[b]Natures[/b]
Every Pokémon can have 1 out of 25 different natures. Most natures will raise one stat by 10% and lower another stat by 10%. In competitive battling, every Pokémon has one or two preferred natures depending on the moveset they are using. For example, a Pokémon meant to use only physical attacks would most likely benefit from an Adamant nature, which raises Attack by 10% and lowers Special Attack by 10%.
There are 5 Natures out there which do not have an effect on any stat. They are Hardy, Serious, Bashful, Quirky, and Docile. These natures should not be used in a competitive setting since they provide no beneficial stat boosts to the Pokémon.
For a list of natures and what stats they affect, [url=http://www.smogon.com/dp/natures/]Click Here[/url].
[b]Effort Values (EVs)[/b]
EVs are "invisible" numbers that can increase a Pokémon's stats. Every 4 EVs in a particular stat is equal to 1 point in that stat. Every Pokémon is capable of having a maximum of 510 EVs with a maximum of 255 EVs in any one stat. Note that neither 510 nor 255 are numbers that are divisible by 4. This means you only need 508 EVs total (252 EVs in any one stat) to have a completely EV-trained Pokémon. The remaining 2 EVs are useless.
For more information on EV's and how to EV train Pokémon in the cartridge games, [url=http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/ev_manual]See Here[/url].
[b]Individual Values (IVs)[/b]
Two untrained Pokémon of the same species with the same level and nature may still have slightly different stats. The reason behind this is that the two Pokémon have different IVs. IVs are "invisible" numbers that range from 0 to 31 and tell you the quality of a Pokémon's stats. 0 means that particular Pokémon's stat is the lowest it can be. 31 means that stat is at its best and is considered a perfect IV.
Unlike EVs, IVs cannot be changed and are permanent when you obtain the Pokémon. There is no guaranteed way of obtaining the exact IVs you want. The best way to get a Pokémon with good IVs is by breeding. More information on IV breeding can be found in the [url=http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/breeding_guide_part1]Breeding Guide[/url].
Competitive Pokémon battling is based on the assumption that all players have perfect Pokémon. Much like professional athletes have near limitless access to state-of-the-art sports equipment, competitive Pokémon strategy assumes you have access to perfect Pokémon. This is often a difficult concept for players of the cartridge games to understand. But, it is essential to forget about that "awesome level 78 Charizard" you used to beat the Elite Four in FireRed. In competitive Pokémon, all players use level 100 Pokémon exclusively, they use only the most powerful species of Pokémon, AND the Pokémon are perfectly EV trained with perfect IVs, with perfect moves.
You may wonder, "How it is possible to get completely perfect Pokémon for competitive play?" In most cases, it is only possible to obtain perfect Pokémon through the use of a Battle Simulator - which is a program built for the express purpose of allowing competitive players to quickly and easily assemble entire teams of perfect Pokémon, and then battle against others. It's also possible to acquire perfect Pokémon through trading networks of competitive breeders, and thus use perfect Pokémon and competitive strategies in wifi battles and real-life tournaments.
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Druddigon claims this #1
So yeah. What general level should my team be before the E4?
Whats the best non legendary dragon type?
My Rufflet needs to stop being squishy and level harder. I want my
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[QUOTE=Vmonkey;28504008]So yeah. What general level should my team be before the E4?[/QUOTE]
Around 50-52+ for the first time
[QUOTE=dill6869;28504016]Whats the best non legendary dragon type?[/QUOTE]
by what standard is best? movepool? stats?
Haxorus has the 5th highest base attack of all pokemon period
Salamence has a fantastic movepool as does Dragonite, both with similar stats.
[QUOTE=dill6869;28504016]Whats the best non legendary dragon type?[/QUOTE]
Grab yourself an Axew, Haxorus is awesome. I also love Garchomps.
[QUOTE=dill6869;28504016]Whats the best non legendary dragon type?[/QUOTE]
Garchomp.
[QUOTE=Wingedwizard;28504027]Garchomp.[/QUOTE]
Never really found Garchomp as appealing as the others.
[QUOTE=Vmonkey;28504008]So yeah. What general level should my team be before the E4?[/QUOTE]
I cleared the E4 with
Emboar 51
Simisage 48
Galvantula 48
Cofagrigus 47
Krookodile 51
Carracosta 48
I've always been a Dragonair kind of person
[QUOTE=Kusakaze;28504051]I cleared the E4 with
Emboar 51
Simisage 48
Galvantula 48
Cofagrigus 47
Krookodile 51
Carracosta 48[/QUOTE]
Woooow, i could do the E4 right now and i haven't even downed Iris...Still promised myself i'd level everyone off at 50 and evolve the Fraxure (44) and Rufflet (35) before i take out Iris.
garchomp is insane. I have one on my gold that can beat the entire elite 4 by himself
Ok, I'm planning on making a dragon type team for the elite four.
[QUOTE=dill6869;28504204]Ok, I'm planning on making a dragon type team for the elite four.[/QUOTE]
Just take the 3 stage dragons from each gen + flygon.
[QUOTE=Vmonkey;28504223]Just take the 3 stage dragons from each gen + flygon.[/QUOTE]
And Altaria, just make her feel better.
I was thinking something like Haxorus, Garchomp, Salamence, Dragonite, Druddigon, and Flygon.
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High attack dragons.
[QUOTE=dill6869;28504324]I was thinking something like Haxorus, Garchomp, Salamence, Dragonite, Druddigon, and Flygon.
[editline]9th March 2011[/editline]
High attack dragons.[/QUOTE]
You should probably replace one of those with Hydreigon for good measure. High sp attack btw.
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I'd shit myself and gtfo outta there too. Geodudes aren't dumb pokemon
Well, I'm gonna go to sleep now.
Grinded my team up to ~36.
I'll finish going up Celestial tower tomorrow.
I need to grind my team up to around 45 to catch up with my Emboar
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its pikachu
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its pikachu[/QUOTE]
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Was about to exclaim "I'm on the front page!"
But seriously salty what the fuck am I looking at (I know it's the geodude but closer up goddamn)
[editline]9th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=dill6869;28504016]Whats the best non legendary dragon type?[/QUOTE]
Dragonite :saddowns:
I love my big goofy dragon
What are some good HM slaves in Blk/Wht? I had a Patrat named Joey (guess why eh?) but the dumbass cant learn strength. Also what lvl does Sandile evolve? I wanna get him to the bad ass croc evolution before i beat the 3rd gym and burn the building into the ground
Not sure what moves I should give my Sigilyph. Just barely caught him, heading to the ruins right now.
[editline]9th March 2011[/editline]
Also I should totally make the next Pokemon General banner sometime.
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