So how would one make a "VIP" rank worth donationg for?
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I really don't think this goes in the Help & Support section, so don't BAN me.
So I am setting up a a server, it will be a Minecraft server as well. I have a friend who has a friend that will make a website for the community (the people, the servers, etc.). The website will cost $22.95 per/year and with that in mind I will set up a two-option donation system.
First Option: Pay $1 per/month.
Second Option: Pay $10 per/year.
*For each server you donate to, you will pay an additional $1 per/month or $10 per/year for each server. For example: You donate to the "DEFCON Garry's Mod Server" for $1 per/month and to the "DEFCON Minecraft Server" for $1 per/month. Your total donations are $2 per/month.
Simple math.
In return for donating (to give people reason to donate if they aren't the type to just donate because they love the server(s)), donators recieve "VIP" rank.
What I need help with:
I need help figuring out how to make the "VIP" rank worth donationg for. What can I add to it that doesn't give it Admin powers, but sets it far apart from Guest rank (what every new/regular player will be)? What should I add to it that makes it a lot more fun to have and helpful to have?
Instinctively, there are certain tools restricted to Guests on most servers. "VIP" ranks are allowed some of these tools. One tool I can think of to put on the list is PewPew.
I could retrict PewPew's Weapon Designer to Guests, and open it to "VIP" rank and above. But what other tools/entities/etc. can I give "VIP" rank? (PlayX would be one.)
Wait, are you asking about what abilities would make donating worth it for a Minecraft server, or are you talking about the Garry's Mod server?
So...you are asking about what you should do for a Minecraft server? Wrong section, sorry...
Well, it looks like he is talking about a Garry's Mod server that will share an IP Address with a Minecraft server, or something like that.
Reserved slots are always nice, at least for GMod. Makes it so there's 2 invisible slots that donators can kick into when the server is full, and it adds them to it temporarily and kicks the highest ping player out for them to replace.
What kind of GMod server is it? I know of a few TTT perks you could add.
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;31126656]Reserved slots are always nice, at least for GMod. Makes it so there's 2 invisible slots that donators can kick into when the server is full, and it adds them to it temporarily and kicks the highest ping player out for them to replace.
What kind of GMod server is it? I know of a few TTT perks you could add.[/QUOTE]
It kind of matters the gamemode that the server is running. With RP, there are tons of dumb addons you can get to give people a sense of achievement for donating. Building is a bit harder to have VIP for.
Tell us the gamemode.
Each gamemode can have different donator perks.
Sandbox: Noclip (If not allowed for guests), access to weapons, access to more 'abusable' tools, such as the TNT tool, VIP rank (Different Color name, etc). Some servers also have adv_dupe uploading only for VIPs.
RP: Money, Paycheck Increase, Access to Toolgun/Physgun, access to much more tools if toolgun is already allowed, VIP Jobs.
TTT: Extra weapons, VIP Rank, Start with more Karma, equipment menu for innocent.
Ive covered your three main gamemodes, but remember, there can always be more. Still, keep a handle on it.
PS. Also get rid of the per year/month crap. Instead make a 10$ lifetime, people are MUCH more willing to donate if they see it is lifetime, even if the sum is larger.
I like your $10 A year but you shouldn't make it a must. People donate because they like your server not because they want more stuff.
I see I caused some confusion, sorry! :D Lol.
The Gamemode will primarily be Sandbox, and if votes are high enough, we will sometimes switch to RP if we get bored. As for Trouble in Terrorist Town, I don't know much about the gamemode and have never played it...so yeah. And thing is with the donating, I don't know if I can do lifetime deals, especially when it first launches. As the server becomes more popular and there are more donators, I might consider lifetime deals. But when the server first launches, not many people will play on it for the first 2-3 months, thus there will not be many donators and lifetime dels would not be ideal.
In reply to Skylerr, please quote me where I said YOU HAVE TO donate. I didn't. Donators are free to end their donation plan(s) whenever they feel like it and can pick them back up whenever they feel like it. (They have free choice in that light.)
Somday when the server is in it's glory with the best of hardware and a professional website and all that, lifetime deals in donating are assured. Until then, they are non-existant. Donations go toward paying for the website I am being offered for it, and to upkeeping and upgrading the server, nothing else. I promise. Donations are STRICTLY for server benifit only. :D
And in reply to Genocidal, no this is mainly about Garry's Mod and only partly about Minecraft. This IS the right section.
EDIT: Thanks all for the ideas you have given me so far, I think I have pretty much everything I need. Except for a few Minecraft ideas for "VIP" Rank. I'll go there for that.
why did u make another thread when this one is perfectly fine?
[QUOTE=geoface;31136161]why did u make another thread when this one is perfectly fine?[/QUOTE]
So no one would complain about me asking a Minecraft question in a Garry's Mod thread.
EDIT: And after attempting to do so, the new thread was locked without reason. So apparently I have to ask it here. (I swear the admins here are confusing.)
What can I give "VIP" rank in Minecraft? I really don't know of any extras I can give them other than allowing them to use TooManyItems in the Survival map. Everyone will be allowed to use TMI in the Creative map (if they have TMI).
[QUOTE='Tom [DFCNS];31136192']So no one would complain about me asking a Minecraft question in a Garry's Mod thread.
EDIT: And after attempting to do so, the new thread was locked without reason. So apparently I have to ask it here. (I swear the admins here are confusing.)
What can I give "VIP" rank in Minecraft? I really don't know of any extras I can give them other than allowing them to use TooManyItems in the Survival map. Everyone will be allowed to use TMI in the Creative map (if they have TMI).[/QUOTE]
It's not really confusing. This is the Garry's Mod forum, if yo want to ask about a Minecraft server, ask it in the Minecraft sub-forum. Very simple. But for your question in relation to Garry's Mod, since you want it to be sandbox, donating can be rewarded with:
-No-Clip access
-TNT tools, and other tools not allowed by server by default
-Higher prop/constraint/ragdoll limit
-Ability to choose certain different player models
-Access to more props
-Shorter pause between voice/chat (if you intend on adding a cooldown for chat)
-Higher priority when joining the server
-A unique name color
-Ability to voice chat if voice chat is disabled
Those are a large collection of my ideas. But also, please don't ask about Minecraft here. Make two separate threads for Minecraft and Garry's Mod in their respectful sub-forums.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;31136413]It's not really confusing. This is the Garry's Mod forum, if yo want to ask about a Minecraft server, ask it in the Minecraft sub-forum. Very simple. But for your question in relation to Garry's Mod, since you want it to be sandbox, donating can be rewarded with:
-No-Clip access
-TNT tools, and other tools not allowed by server by default
-Higher prop/constraint/ragdoll limit
-Ability to choose certain different player models
-Access to more props
-Shorter pause between voice/chat (if you intend on adding a cooldown for chat)
-Higher priority when joining the server
-A unique name color
-Ability to voice chat if voice chat is disabled
Those are a large collection of my ideas. But also, please don't ask about Minecraft here. Make two separate threads for Minecraft and Garry's Mod in their respectful sub-forums.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, I tried to ask my Minecraft question in it's repective sub-forum. But as soon as I posted the new thread in the Minecraft sub-forum, it was LOCKED. So apparently the admins want me to continue this thread instead. Please pay better attention to details next time. And thank you for contributing additional ideas for the Garry's Mod server.
EDIT: I tried a second time on asking the Minecraft question the the Minecraft sub-forum. Locked again. So can someone answer it here?
"How do I make a "VIP" rank in Minecarft worth donating for? In other words, if someone donates they get "VIP" rank in return. "VIP" rank gives them more reason to donate, what I need to know is what I can give "VIP" rank in Minecraft that sets it apart from any random player. One thing I can think of is allowing use of the TooManyItems mod in both the Survival and Creative maps, while any random player that has TMI will only be able to use it in the Creative map."
Sounds more like a payment than a donation. I'd suggest looking at the word "donate" in a dictionary.
Perhaps add chest protection if its not allowed for guests.
for minecraft, add their name to a special board near spawn or something, and they get to have their name and text colored specially, maybe a title
anything that gives them an actual bonus is cheap, though for gmod you could get away with giving them a higher, possibly infinite, cap on props and entities
don't decrease the normal user's cap, though, you're just getting into tf2 donation servers there, and those are bad.
TNT.
Both games.
Restrict from normal players.
Allow the VIP donators
Okay, I get it. "Donation", not payment. Even still, they DON'T have to donate. They can choose not pay at all. I guess I'll add a pay-any-time option if it makes you guys happy.
Simple don't make a VIP that you have to pay for. I hate that shit!
The option to delete your server because you should not be making your players pay for features.
don't make a VIP worth paying for, make a server worth donating to
Simple, Don't make a website, it does not seem important and you can instead use a steam community group.
also this is primarily garry's mod related, so you should have posted it in the garry's mod section in my opinion.
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[QUOTE=IdiotStorm;31242390]don't make a VIP worth paying for, make a server worth donating to[/QUOTE]
First smart answer I've gotten. THANK YOU!
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[QUOTE=Octo pie;31242403]Simple, Don't make a website, it does not seem important and you can instead use a steam community group.
also this is primarily garry's mod related, so you should have posted it in the garry's mod section in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
WTF?! I posted this in the Garry's Mod section! WHO THE FUCK moved it?
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[QUOTE=PieClock;31242129]The option to delete your server because you should not be making your players pay for features.[/QUOTE]
Yo, dumbass. They aren't paying for features. They are donating and get a free rank in return.
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[QUOTE=Burgervich;31242079]Simple don't make a VIP that you have to pay for. I hate that shit![/QUOTE]
Are you retarded? Can you read? Like I told PieClock, they aren't paying for the rank. They donate IF they want to and get a free rank in return. -_-
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Noxious Net did it right in my opinion. You don't get any advantage over other players, but you get cool stuff, like having your avatar near your nickname in chat, leaving labels, accessory shop discounts.
[QUOTE=SilverHedgehog;31251426]Noxious Net did it right in my opinion. You don't get any advantage over other players, but you get cool stuff, like having your avatar near your nickname in chat, leaving labels, accessory shop discounts.[/QUOTE]
Sounds cool.
[QUOTE='Tom [DFCNS];31251347']
Are you retarded? Can you read? Like I told PieClock, they aren't paying for the rank. They donate IF they want to and get a free rank in return. -_-[/QUOTE]
What? That's paying for a rank stupid. I mean why would you donate unless you got something in return?
[QUOTE=Burgervich;31252999]What? That's paying for a rank stupid. I mean why would you donate unless you got something in return?[/QUOTE]
You would donate to keep the server alive, idiot. The "VIP" rank is just the toy you get in the Happy Meal.
[QUOTE='Tom [DFCNS];31254866']You would donate to keep the server alive, idiot. The "VIP" rank is just the toy you get in the Happy Meal.[/QUOTE]The server has to be worth being donated to.
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