Shaman who claims he has the power to control crocodiles killed by crocodiles - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE]KALIMANTAN - A self-proclaimed crocodile shaman who said he had the power to control crocodiles was killed in a suspected attack by one of the reptiles in Kutai Kartanegara, East Kalimantan, last Saturday (Sept 16).The shaman, Suprianto, had been looking for the body of a boy who had gone missing in Muara Jawa estuary the previous day. [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txxD2R5XoLE"]Disturbing footage showed[/URL] Suprianto swimming and chanting in the estuary's waters before he was dragged under. Kutai Kartanegara police chief Fadillah Zulkarnaen told local media that two bodies were recovered on Sunday. Suprianto's body was found floating at 9.40pm and his body was intact. "I think he was dragged by a croc under the water and then ran out of oxygen," he added.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/indonesian-shaman-killed-while-searching-for-body-in-crocodile-infested-waters?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&xtor=CS1-10#link_time=1505879805[/url]

he told the crocodiles to kill him

It's easier to not get killed by crocodiles if you get yourself killed by a crocodile and then reincarnate as a crocodile. Spiritual pseudo science: 1 Atheists: 0

[QUOTE=gameplaya89;52699693]he told the crocodiles to kill him[/QUOTE] Somebody should have told him that suicide wasn't the answer.

[quote]A self-proclaimed crocodile shaman who said he had the power to control crocodiles[/quote] when and why did he decide he had this power? was this his first time trying it out?

[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;52699812]when and why did he decide he had this power? was this his first time trying it out?[/QUOTE] He probably got lucky a few times and then decided he had magic powers.

"suspected" You can clearly see the crocodile holding him underwater at 1:30.

You know the old saying, you either die a hero, or live long enough to control crocodiles.

I legitimately thought the article said Shadman.

little did he know that croc hides do have above average innate spell resistance your repel or persuasion spells can sometimes fail on them. A caution to all future crocodile shamans.

Reminds me of the "Fuck the gators" guy a few years back [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1474434[/url]

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52699705]Somebody should have told him that suicide wasn't the answer.[/QUOTE] Suicide by alligator, now the gators gonna have to carry that weight for the rest of its life. :disappoint:

[QUOTE=LSK;52699981]Suicide by alligator, now the gators gonna have to carry that weight for the rest of its life. :disappoint:[/QUOTE] Hopefully they get the counselling they need

[QUOTE=Ignhelper;52700279]Hopefully they get the counselling they need[/QUOTE] Should have tased the shaman in the crocoballs

The police chief thinks he drowned while being held under. If that's true I just wonder what his final thoughts were.

The shaman who can make people lose control over crocodiles strikes again

domestic crocodiles would be a fun crispr project.

[QUOTE=Shirt.;52701876]domestic crocodiles would be a fun crispr project.[/QUOTE] Yes, that's exactly what the crispr scientists should be focusing their efforts on

[QUOTE=Shirt.;52701876]domestic crocodiles would be a fun crispr project.[/QUOTE] What's your plan? I would just make them secrete more GABA and Glycine and less GABA and Glutamate so they're chiller

This is a blow to the Shaman community. The Druids seem quite pleased though.

[QUOTE=Shirt.;52701876]domestic crocodiles would be a fun crispr project.[/QUOTE] alligators can be kept as pets throughout their adult lives but they aren't really domesticated - and to describe them as pets is pushing the definition, since while they can be trained and made people-friendly they can still kill you and everyone around you if agitated. they do build loyalty and friendships but their survival drive is stronger and they will attempt to kill you if they feel threatened. that means you have to avoid accidentally threatening your alligator for 50 years. crocs are just dumb dickheads

[QUOTE=Shirt.;52701876]domestic crocodiles would be a fun crispr project.[/QUOTE] ... You don't need CRISPR for that. There are already some domesticated Alligators in the US, and we know it takes about ~7 generations of selective breeding to domesticate an animal. 7 generations isn't a lot. [editline]20th September 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Grenadiac;52702231]alligators can be kept as pets throughout their adult lives but they aren't really domesticated - and to describe them as pets is pushing the definition, since while they can be trained and made people-friendly they can still kill you and everyone around you if agitated. they do build loyalty and friendships but their survival drive is stronger and they will attempt to kill you if they feel threatened. that means you have to avoid accidentally threatening your alligator for 50 years. crocs are just dumb dickheads[/QUOTE] Alligators are pretty hard to threaten as they're at the top of the food chain in places like the Everglades, so once they're of a certain age they seem to lose almost all their anxiety entirely. Crocodiles are different, as in Africa they can be mauled by a hippo or trampled by herds passing their river, so they're much more aggressive and, well, dickheads. Another fun fact about Alligators is that they stay the same size if you keep them right - they only grow as far as their enclosure allows them to comfortably (of course the amount you feed them also determines this), so you can have 10-year old gators not much larger than two feet long. And at that size, they're entirely harmless. Truthfully, I think gators are sweet animals, and even in the wild they [i]rarely[/i] kill people unless you massively fuck up. [editline]20th September 2017[/editline] In fact, I went down the entire history of deaths-by-alligator in Florida over the past 50 years, and every single last case was because someone was an idiot - either irresponsible parents (that ignore the danger gators! sign, have a picnic, and let their kid run off for 20 minutes before thinking to look for them) or literal idiots (like that dude mentioned earlier in the thread who went "fuck gators!" and jumped onto one and died).

gators are really amazingly chill animals and I haven't felt threatened or worried being around one yet, but they are still animals and there's still that chance of an errant motion making it defensive. can't really reason with them once they're wound up :v:

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52702334]... You don't need CRISPR for that. There are already some domesticated Alligators in the US, and we know it takes about ~7 generations of selective breeding to domesticate an animal. 7 generations isn't a lot. [editline]20th September 2017[/editline] Alligators are pretty hard to threaten as they're at the top of the food chain in places like the Everglades, so once they're of a certain age they seem to lose almost all their anxiety entirely. Crocodiles are different, as in Africa they can be mauled by a hippo or trampled by herds passing their river, so they're much more aggressive and, well, dickheads. Another fun fact about Alligators is that they stay the same size if you keep them right - they only grow as far as their enclosure allows them to comfortably (of course the amount you feed them also determines this), so you can have 10-year old gators not much larger than two feet long. And at that size, they're entirely harmless. Truthfully, I think gators are sweet animals, and even in the wild they [i]rarely[/i] kill people unless you massively fuck up. [editline]20th September 2017[/editline] In fact, I went down the entire history of deaths-by-alligator in Florida over the past 50 years, and every single last case was because someone was an idiot - either irresponsible parents (that ignore the danger gators! sign, have a picnic, and let their kid run off for 20 minutes before thinking to look for them) or literal idiots (like that dude mentioned earlier in the thread who went "fuck gators!" and jumped onto one and died).[/QUOTE] Saltwater crocodiles have nothing to be afraid of yet they're one of the biggest, most aggressive assholes in the animal kingdom. Crocodiles just hate everything and everyone.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;52702493]gators are really amazingly chill animals and I haven't felt threatened or worried being around one yet, but they are still animals and there's still that chance of an errant motion making it defensive. can't really reason with them once they're wound up :v:[/QUOTE] When I was sixteen I was walking home from school and saw a gator in a small canal. Said hello to the fella and went on my merry way. I got within like 7-8' before noticing it, so they're p. chill.

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;52702506]Saltwater crocodiles have nothing to be afraid of yet they're one of the biggest, most aggressive assholes in the animal kingdom. Crocodiles just hate everything and everyone.[/QUOTE] Younger (not fully grown) saltwater crocs are hunted by big cats like jaguars. They also aren't swimming in food like American Alligators usually are, so they fiercely compete for food in many areas, especial when they're younger. Also, they live in the same habitat as sharks (including great whites), and there was an instance of one being killed by a killer whale I believe. [editline]21st September 2017[/editline] Also, American Alligators are generally not aggressive not because their current habitat doesn't bother them in the least, but because it's been that for for millions of years.

[QUOTE=Dr.C;52702208]What's your plan? I would just make them secrete more GABA and Glycine and less GABA and Glutamate so they're chiller[/QUOTE] I was thinking an increase in serotonin production and a dexmethylphenidate production gland to reduce its hostile nature when threatened and make it easier to teach. Then I'd put a buzzer collar and a sat cam on it and have it do my shopping because you don't complain when a crocodile is making off with a mound of cheeze its and tea packets.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52702334]... You don't need CRISPR for that. There are already some domesticated Alligators in the US, and we know it takes about ~7 generations of selective breeding to domesticate an animal. 7 generations isn't a lot. [editline]20th September 2017[/editline] Alligators are pretty hard to threaten as they're at the top of the food chain in places like the Everglades, so once they're of a certain age they seem to lose almost all their anxiety entirely. Crocodiles are different, as in Africa they can be mauled by a hippo or trampled by herds passing their river, so they're much more aggressive and, well, dickheads. Another fun fact about Alligators is that they stay the same size if you keep them right - they only grow as far as their enclosure allows them to comfortably (of course the amount you feed them also determines this), so you can have 10-year old gators not much larger than two feet long. And at that size, they're entirely harmless. Truthfully, I think gators are sweet animals, and even in the wild they [i]rarely[/i] kill people unless you massively fuck up. [editline]20th September 2017[/editline] In fact, I went down the entire history of deaths-by-alligator in Florida over the past 50 years, and every single last case was because someone was an idiot - either irresponsible parents (that ignore the danger gators! sign, have a picnic, and let their kid run off for 20 minutes before thinking to look for them) or literal idiots (like that dude mentioned earlier in the thread who went "fuck gators!" and jumped onto one and died).[/QUOTE] There's a significant difference in attitude between alligators and crocodiles. Alligators, being smaller and not usually being top of the food chain tend to be more docile when around humans. Crocodiles, like the ones referred in the OP, are far more aggressive. In Africa, while most animals have a healthy 'fear' of man, the Nile Crocodile sees everything as walking pieces of meat. It literally gives no fucks when it comes to hunting.

Well it's less about the Nile crocodile seeing everything as a meal and more about how they can be trampled to death by a herd if they're not careful, or torn in half by a hippo. They're not the top predator, and they're hunted quite often, even as adults. They live a tough life and act respectively for it - aggressive and nervously. Of all Crocodilia, Nile crocs are the most readily dangerous because of this IMO.