• Youtube CEO says Logan Paul doesn't deserve to be kicked off the website
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[QUOTE]Some people believe YouTube star Logan Paul should be kicked off YouTube for good. YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is not one of those people. She says Paul shouldn’t be kicked off for good despite calling his videos “a pattern of egregious behavior.” The reason? He hasn’t violated the company’s three strikes policy, she said. “We do have a three strikes rule, and if somebody violates [our policies] three times, we do terminate those accounts and we do that all the time,” Wojcicki said Monday from Recode’s Code Media Conference in Huntington Beach, Calif. “He hasn’t done anything that would cause those three strikes.” “What you think is tasteless is not necessarily what someone else would see as tasteless,” Wojcicki added. “We need to have consistent laws codified in our policies so that [our system] can be trained and we can apply it consistently to millions of videos and millions of creators.”[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Wojcicki admitted that YouTube could in theory change its rules, but argued that it was hard to make rules that were fair to both sides. “On the one side is censorship, and on the other side is too much freedom of speech,” she said. “It’s a complicated and very nuanced place where that line is drawn.”[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.recode.net/2018/2/13/17006792/youtube-why-logan-paul-suspensded-ads-susan-wijcicki-banned-content-creator"]1[/URL], [URL="http://variety.com/2018/digital/news/youtube-susan-wojcicki-logan-paul-1202696393/"]2[/URL]
Youtube CEO deserves to be kicked off the website.
[quote]“He hasn’t done anything that would cause those three strikes.”[/QUOTE] Ah yes, because showing a dead body and being known to be a complete nuisance/asshole on your platform is totally not worthy of having his channel removed, but other small Youtubers like I HATE EVERYTHING? Yeah let's remove his channel here and there and permanently disable, send strikes, and demonetize other Youtubers channels for smaller misdemeanors because why not. Youtube's CEO is so full of shit.
[QUOTE=EmilyVasquez;53128162]Ah yes, because showing a dead body and being known to be a complete nuisance/asshole on your platform is totally not worthy of having his channel removed, but other small Youtubers like I HATE EVERYTHING? Yeah let's remove his channel here and there and permanently disable/strike/demonetize other Youtubers channels for smaller misdemeanors because why not. Youtube's CEO is so full of shit.[/QUOTE] "b-but that's just our ai, even we don't know how it works!"
[QUOTE]“What you think is tasteless is not necessarily what someone else would see as tasteless,” Wojcicki added.[/QUOTE] I dunno. I think posting videos of suicide victims or of dead rats getting tased is objectively tasteless.
Hopefully YouTube will be dead by the end of this year, or at least decent competition will show up.
sounds like a high school principal responding to criticisms about a ZTP. Stop hiding behind policy and get this cancerous twat off your site.
Thousands of low-view content authors get booted from monetization. Piece of shit that keeps doing insane and gross stuff - "Doesn't deserve it" It's actually insane how much of a garbage company YouTube is.
Ah yes, YouTube's patented Three-Strikes system that we all know so much about, which also only applies to the following channels: Logan Paul Remember back in '09 when they dropped the Trip Strizike? (that was what we called it back then) damn any 'tuber worth a lick of salt knows about the Trizzy!
Logan Paul doesn't deserve to be kicked off because he has a lot of subscribers/fans/haters and thus draws people to the site, either to look at his videos or videos others make of him.
He's extremely popular and nobody outside of the Internet is kicking up a fuss about him so the rules don't apply. Just say it how it is Youtube, don't fucking be dickless about it.
Nah as long as the money comes in she doesn't care about anything that is going on on YouTube, as out of touch as she is with their own platform it shows she's probably only checking on YouTube every few months or whenever she gets called for help.
If someone else did what he did, they'd be off youtube faster than you could say demonetisation
I'm willing to bet that if the dead body was of a relative or friend of the CEO, the CEO would have a different opinion.
[QUOTE=usaokay;53128190]As messed up as that sounds, I kinda agree that Youtube has a double standard when it comes to its focus on large and small channels. It's even worse since large channels have way more viewers and a following. Even Youtube and a lot of media people use the term, "Youtube Influencer" because that's what the large channels are. Children right now are growing up in a digital age where TV is being phased out in favor of Youtube and Netflix and the like. Logan Paul deserves more than just all the negative press, his Youtube Red being stricken away, and his ads removed. He effectively made fun of suicide to a large audience of otherwise children.[/QUOTE] And not to mention somehow managing to teach his viewers that what he did was perfectly fine and acceptable.
I can't believe that there's someone even more disconnected from reality than Zucc.
[QUOTE=Gvazdas;53128167]Hopefully YouTube will be dead by the end of this year, or at least decent competition will show up.[/QUOTE] YouTube dying is not a good thing, there are over 11years worth of videos on there, but you want them gone forever because Logan Paul had a dead body in 1 of them. Decent competition won't come for a long time, sorry [editline]13th February 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=arleitiss;53128171]Thousands of low-view content authors get booted from monetization. Piece of shit that keeps doing insane and gross stuff - "Doesn't deserve it" It's actually insane how much of a garbage company YouTube is.[/QUOTE] He lost his monetisation though?
[QUOTE] “On the one side is censorship, and on the other side is too much freedom of speech,”[/QUOTE] I'm fucking wheezing, since when does YT care about freedom of speech
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;53128225]I'm fucking wheezing, since when does YT care about freedom of speech[/QUOTE] Yeah when history educational channels are having their videos removed because they mentioned a war, or when Casey Neistat gets demonised for talking about the Vegas shooting when he was donating the money to charity. Youtube doesn't care.
Yeah, how come this guy is still on the platform, YouTube?? Just get him out, who cares about the three strikes system! Oh but leave it active to the rest of the channels including mine 'cause I wouldn't like to get banned off one or two reports, as that would be UNFAIR.
So a guy who films a suicide victim gets to stay, but people posting educational content get their channels shitcanned? I am so ready for Youtube to be replaced.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;53128219]YouTube dying is not a good thing, there are over 11years worth of videos on there, but you want them gone forever because Logan Paul had a dead body in 1 of them. Decent competition won't come for a long time, sorry [/QUOTE] That's a shitty zinger if I ever saw one, I want them gone forever because they turned an amazing project into a steaming pile of shit, irregardless of the percentage of Logan Paul videos on YouTube's servers. But yes, dead is an extreme, I guess change would be a better way to put it.
[QUOTE=Gvazdas;53128167]Hopefully YouTube will be dead by the end of this year, or at least decent competition will show up.[/QUOTE] The problem from my understanding is the immense amount of storage required in order to build a viable competitor. Something most companies can not afford.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;53128156]You're kidding me. Is the CEO trolling us? Is she nuts? [B]Is she being paid?[/B] I have so many questions as to why this insane irresponsible person is being defended by the CEO? Why did you just fail PR so hard? [B]WHY IS YOUTUBE SO OUT OF TOUCH?[/B][/QUOTE] Yes, she is getting paid. Can't get rid of Logan Paul because Logan Paul is a great source for ad revenue. Not just from his own uploads, but [I]anything[/I] he is featured in. People who are fans of him (and there are many) will eat up any content with his name in it.
[QUOTE=CommanderPT;53128316]The problem from my understanding is the immense amount of storage required in order to build a viable competitor. Something most companies can not afford.[/QUOTE] That's obvious, but how long until YouTube goes even further downhill until no new content creators pop up? Looking at how YouTube handles rewarding content creators, climbing upwards as a start-up YouTuber seems unlikely. These people would go somewhere else. Has anyone ever done the math on how much funding you need to keep up a site like YouTube with sufficient technology to uphold at least a few hundred channels? Why are you guys so pessimistic about the fact that you don't need to be an instant YouTube to actually be decent competition? For YouTube to get a kick in their monopolized ass and get their shit together, they need competition. It doesn't have to be Google #2. It sucks that YouTube seems to be so set in stone as the platform for online videos.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;53128219]He lost his monetisation though?[/QUOTE] He still has a huge platform to advertise his merch and plug his sponsors.
[QUOTE=The golden;53128241]Meanwhile a purely educational channel like Cody's Lab gets upload-banned on a nearly weekly basis. Fuck off, Youtube.[/QUOTE] youtube hates smart people
Either disconnected from reality or scared of losing some money.
Logan Paul definitely has serious issues, but I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about getting him kicked off of YouTube. As distasteful as his videos get, how much are you guys really personally affected by them? And if there are concerns about children seeing his videos, then I feel like that should be a problem limited to how parents are monitoring what their kids watch. There's a kids only subset of YT that Logan's videos can't be accessed from, and if parents don't make use of that then as a parent I sort of have to fault [I]them[/I] for that, not Logan. I guess I could just be desensitized to it, but if I saw my son watching Logan's video tasing rats and messing with a hanging body, from my perspective I should be worrying about keeping track of what my kid's looking up, not about preventing anybody else from watching that "content". And he's been demonetized finally, so I guess the "profiting from egregious content" angle is sorted now as well. Note that this is no defense for YT's questionable AI blocking actually innocent videos and channels. That's an issue all on its own.
She's not doing anything new, really. Trading principles for profit. It's what every good leader does in this day and age.
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