• Baptist Seminary Apologizes For Faculty Members’ Racist Photo
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[quote]Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is apologizing for a racist photo that several faculty members shared on Twitter on Tuesday. Five men, all of them senior faculty members at the Southern Baptist seminary in Texas, staged a photo in which they posed as rappers wearing hoodies, sideways hats and chain necklaces. One of them appears to be holding a gun. The phrase “Notorious S.O.P.,” for the School of Preaching, is featured in graffiti-style lettering across the top of the photo. Black activist Shaun King shared the photo, which has since been deleted by the faculty members who initially tweeted it: [media]https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/856978883077435392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fsouthwestern-baptist-seminary-rap-photo_us_59010924e4b081a5c0fa4fa6[/media] David L. Allen, dean of the School of Preaching, explained in a tweet that the photo was staged as part of a going-away party for another professor. Vern Charette, a former professor of preaching at Southwestern who recently accepted a new post, is reportedly known to rap on occasion during sermons. Allen later apologized for sharing the photo, saying his “stance on race is clear.” Social media users pointed out that the photo was demeaning and inappropriate, and played on harmful stereotypes of black people. That the photo was staged and shared by senior members of the faculty was particularly troubling. John Fea, chair of the history department at private Christian school Messiah College, wrote in a blog post: "Think about it. At some point these guys sat down in a faculty lounge somewhere and decided that it would be fun to dress this way and take a picture. At what point in this conversation did one of the guys in the photo think it was a good idea to show his gun? Did he bring it from home? Or did he have it in his office gun cabinet?" Christian rapper Lecrae expressed similar concern in a tweet responding to Allen’s claim that his stance on racism was “clear.” If that were true, he asked, how was the photo created in the first place? [/quote] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/southwestern-baptist-seminary-rap-photo_us_59010924e4b081a5c0fa4fa6?section=us_black-voices[/url] [url]http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews?id=48753[/url] I gotta say, this is absolutely ridiculous to get upset over.
so white people aren't allowed to dress in ugly shit now? :v: like if they were blackfacing or some shit I might see where they were coming from, but this is waaaay less "offensive" than jesus christ is my nigga.
I mean, maybe a bit trashy, definitely ridiculous looking, but racist? Not really.
Black people don't have exclusive rights over a music genre, the typical fashion of that genre, baseball caps, jerseys or guns.
Good trigger discipline though.
My fucking god this is hilarious. It's a bunch of grandpa's and one of their grandsons wearing blue, what the fuck of it? Edit: Oh man, I just noticed the red hat. Edit2: Is Gansta Gramps wearing a fucking MAGA hat :v:?
I'm glad these brave souls are out there to protect the gangster rapper ethnicity
When I read the title I thought he was going to be in black face or something. This isn't really awful at all.
[QUOTE]Vern Charette, a former professor of preaching at Southwestern who recently accepted a new post, is reportedly known to rap on occasion during sermons.[/QUOTE] There has to be a video of this. Somewhere out there is footage of this old man drinking wine, spitting fire, lifting souls, dropping bars. Though it's tough to imagine it topping my personal favorite rap cover. [QUOTE][video=youtube;6df2C17NZiE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6df2C17NZiE[/video][/QUOTE]
Isn't it racist for the angry people to presume that people in that pose / those clothes are black?
That picture is pretty funny actually. Don't know about racist, though. Lots of people from all kinds of ethnicities sometimes dress like that.
Gangster isn't a race.
the horseshoe is complete "that's racist, everyone knows only black people dress and pose like that!!"
not racist, just extremely inappropriate
It's making fun of what is traditionally known as "gangsta" culture, which everyone knows is most often attributed to the afro-american people as they were the originators of such. Some things can have unintentional racist undertones due to ignorance
These people haven't seen this have they [video=youtube;Kppx4bzfAaE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kppx4bzfAaE[/video]
[QUOTE=Sableye;52168517]not racist, just extremely inappropriate[/QUOTE] Why? [editline]30th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Tobylol;52168713]It's making fun of what is traditionally known as "gangsta" culture, which everyone knows is most often attributed to the afro-american people as they were the originators of such. Some things can have unintentional racist undertones due to ignorance[/QUOTE] I hope black men don't dress up in suits, clearly that's traditionally attributed to white people as they were the originators of such. See how dumb your comment is?
Uhhhh isn't it racist to insinuate that criminal gangs (which they are mimicking with the matching colors, hand signs, and firearm) are an inherently black people thing? I get that they're going for the rap angle, but not all rap is based on gangsters and not all gangsters are rappers. [editline]30th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52168746]I hope black men don't dress up in suits, clearly that's traditionally attributed to white people as they were the originators of such.[/QUOTE] Zoot suits were a lot more stylish than what we have today in my opinion, although I don't know how common they actually were, I've read they were popular with all manner of immigrant and minority groups.
Shaun King REALLY needs something better to do with his time.
people who are getting offended by this are fucking dumb they're essentially saying "only black people are gangsters, this is racist cultural appropriation!!!" like nice you did it you defended your culture congrats
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52168771]Uhhhh isn't it racist to insinuate that criminal gangs (which they are mimicking with the matching colors, hand signs, and firearm) are an inherently black people thing? I get that they're going for the rap angle, but not all rap is based on gangsters and not all gangsters are rappers. [/QUOTE] no but you see they really want to change the definition of racism to this power + prejudiced, bullshit
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52168771] Zoot suits were a lot more stylish than what we have today in my opinion, although I don't know how common they actually were, I've read they were popular with all manner of immigrant and minority groups.[/QUOTE] Do really need to add "business suits" to my post to get my point across?
[QUOTE=Tobylol;52168713]It's making fun of what is traditionally known as "gangsta" culture, which everyone knows is most often attributed to the afro-american people as they were the originators of such. Some things can have unintentional racist undertones due to ignorance[/QUOTE] Even if only black people dressed like that, it still wouldn't be racist. It would just mean that white people were dressing in a way that black people usually dress. It's like saying a black guy wearing lederhosen is racist against white people.
What's racist about it, exactly? If you go out of your way to find something racist that isn't actually racist, doesn't that make you the racist? I'm certain there's people of every race that dress like that.
[QUOTE=sgman91;52171607]Even if only black people dressed like that, it still wouldn't be racist. It would just mean that white people were dressing in a way that black people usually dress. It's like saying a black guy wearing lederhosen is racist against white people.[/QUOTE] To add onto this: even if [i]only black people[/i] dressed like this, it still wouldn't be racist for white people to do so [i]unless they added a value judgement to it.[/i] So just dressing like "black people" do, without saying "also this is a bad/good/ridiculous/funny way to dress" isn't racist, it's just... impersonation?
[QUOTE=geel9;52172607]To add onto this: even if [I]only black people[/I] dressed like this, it still wouldn't be racist for white people to do so [I]unless they added a value judgement to it.[/I] So just dressing like "black people" do, without saying "also this is a bad/good/ridiculous/funny way to dress" isn't racist, it's just... impersonation?[/QUOTE] Even if they're saying it's bad (which doesn't seem to be the purpose of their picture), it's still only racist if they're saying it's bad [I]because black people do it.[/I]
Has no one ever heard of Eminem?
[QUOTE=AlbertWesker;52172770]Has no one ever heard of Eminem?[/QUOTE] Most racist white guy since Hitler, taking black culture on as his own :v:
[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;52169068]Shaun King REALLY needs something better to do with his time.[/QUOTE] I actually agree for once. This is a harmless gag photo. I remember dressing similar for an elementary school play where I had to be a guy into hip-hop. The farthest I could understand these grievances would be in that it could be a potential application of cultural appropriation, but that's the social progressivist concept I disagree with the most. There's nothing wrong with respective native cultures, but people can really take that idea too far into the realm of, ironically, needless conservatism.
The reason this is funny is because they're old white pastors, which suggests they're depicting the opposite, young black criminals They wanted to have a hiphop cover and they went straight to gang signs&guns.
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