• Ambulance Refuses to Transport Cleveland Man Shot 16 Times
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In a body-cam video of the incident, police can be heard talking about getting an ambulance. But they ran into a problem. All ambulances from Euclid emergency medical services were tied up with other calls, so they would need to wait for an ambulance from a city farther away. And Cleveland EMS refused to send an ambulance because the man, although he was shot in the city, drove into Euclid. [URL="https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/30/us/cleveland-no-ambulance-trnd/index.html"]https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/30/us/cleveland-no-ambulance-trnd/index.html[/URL]
I work career Fire/EMS and politics is unfortunately a huge part. However, at this point, I've seen police shit and get and transport someone in this bad of shape as quickly as possible. Some municipalities refuse to go to certain areas. The one I work for, for example, won't go to the high call volume neighboring city because our municipality would have no ambulance service for the duration of the call. It's all politics. It's sad.
isn't it a crime for a hospital to refuse treatment to anyone for any reason?
[QUOTE=meppers;53097976]isn't it a crime for a hospital to refuse treatment to anyone for any reason?[/QUOTE] Can't call it a crime if they never make it to the hospital.
He apparently survived btw
[QUOTE=Lebofly;53098370]He apparently survived btw[/QUOTE] Whoever treated them needs a raise with all the odds stacked against the patients survival.
[QUOTE=Lebofly;53098370]He apparently survived btw[/QUOTE] Fingers crossed that he sues the shit out of those who are to blame for this
[QUOTE=Lebofly;53098370]He apparently survived btw[/QUOTE] give me a source on that, mate pretty amazing shit
It's in the article "His girlfriend, who did not want to be named, told CNN that Newberry survived the shooting and was released from the hospital last weekend."
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;53097759]This is exactly why mutual aid laws are important. Mutual aid allows other EMS services to respond to other jurisdictions if requested. Without it, by law, you can't respond to another jurisdiction. This is also why dispatch needs to be highly trained, and not some schmuck they hired off the fucking streets.[/QUOTE] Yeah I had a personal experience with this. My neighbor was doing some housework and severed his femoral artery in an accident. We have a firehouse literally a block down but our area wasn’t covered by that firehouse. They had to wait for an ambulance from our county to show up instead of sending one from literally across the street. His wife is a doctor so she was able to stabilize him but the arbitrary lines could have resulted in tragedy.
American healthcare is in such a bad state everywhere. It's like common sense and good judgement play no role in our society anymore. That and seeking medical treatment is basically financial suicide.
[QUOTE=bord2tears;53098512]Whoever treated them needs a raise with all the odds stacked against the patients survival.[/QUOTE] With that kind of trauma, theres very little field care outside of the scope of a basically trained cop in first aid. Diesel Fuel Medicine, just load and go. You see this sort of thing in mass-causalities all the time. Just plopping people in the back of a pick up truck for example in the vegas shooting saved more lives than sitting waiting for the city to get more EMS resources to pour into that area.
[QUOTE=false prophet;53103346]American healthcare is in such a bad state everywhere. It's like common sense and good judgement play no role in our society anymore. That and seeking medical treatment is basically financial suicide.[/QUOTE] Not only that, but I've read some stories where people refuse to ride in an ambulance or find ways to cut costs in seeking medical attention. Fucking ridiculous when people seriously think private healthcare is the way to go.
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