German shock at diesel exhaust tests on humans and monkeys, funded by VW, Daimler, and BMW - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE]The German government has denounced experiments funded by German carmakers in which humans and monkeys reportedly inhaled diesel exhaust fumes. German media say the health impact research was done by EUGT, a body funded by Volkswagen, Daimler and BMW. Such tests could not be justified, the government said, demanding details. A minister called them "abominable". ... On Thursday the New York Times reported that the EUGT research was designed to counter a 2012 decision by the World Health Organizationto classify diesel exhaust as a carcinogen. It said that in 2014, EUGT had [B]exposed 10 monkeys to fumes - in an air-tight chamber - from several cars, including a diesel VW Beetle[/B]. The testing took place at a lab in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Then at the weekend Germany's Stuttgarter Zeitungand SWR radio reported that [B]19 men and six women had inhaled diesel fumes in another EUGT experiment[/B].[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42858668[/url] Wtf German car industry

Good job beating the stereotype there.

Old habbits die hard

I am laughing, for obvious reason :v:.

Nothing quite like the stink of diesel to wake you up in the morning.

More like 85 Million after the latest Diesel scandals

Something something ww2?

Gaswagen 2018 model year?

-snip im sorry-

Holy fuck, a new level of fuck up?!

Shieße Hans how many times do I have to remind you [I]not to create gas chambers.[/I]

German death camps

There it is. We had fun once and now everyone thinks we are psychopaths for dealing with exhaust fumes

what the fuck, do they have the grandson of Josef Mengele running their QA department? side note, the grand children of many nazi war criminals have lived very upstanding not human rights violating lives.

[QUOTE=Sableye;53091668]what the fuck, do they have the grandson of Josef Mengele running their QA department?[/QUOTE] He's a nice guy once you get past some hereditary hang ups /s

Of course there is a Volkswagen Beetle involved with those tests, next up they reveal that all the test subjects had suspiciously big noses as well. :v:

[QUOTE=Jordax;53091685]Of course there is a Volkswagen Beetle involved with those tests, next up they reveal that all the test subjects had suspiciously big noses as well. :v:[/QUOTE] Big noses means it's easier to smell the exhaust.

So basicaly just from 2014, your car could have been in a room with human or animal test subjects... Thats a bit haunting...

[QUOTE=WhyNott;53091233]Old habbits die hard[/QUOTE] This is not funny, last time I tried to install a new toilet seat, I caught myself almost turning the whole bathroom into a gas chamber. After this shock I returned to play Simulator Games and Prison Architect.

[QUOTE=WhyNott;53091233]Old habbits die hard[/QUOTE] once a german, always a german anyway what did they find what are the results???

[quote]The testing took place at a lab in Albuquerque, New Mexico. [/quote] How the fuck is this kind of testing legal in the U.S.?

I kind of wonder how the thought process worked here... the World Health Organizationto classified diesel exhaust as a carcinogen... but car companies are like nah we know more about health than you guys do... We'll prove it by putting a bunch of people and monkeys in a chamber with exhaust emissions running into it. What could go wrong?

I'll be seeing y'all in hell.

wow breathing in exhaust fumes is bad for you, who would have fucking thought what was the thought process when they decided this should be an experiment

[QUOTE=Morgen;53091973]I kind of wonder how the thought process worked here... the World Health Organizationto classified diesel exhaust as a carcinogen... but car companies are like nah we know more about health than you guys do... We'll prove it by putting a bunch of people and monkeys in a chamber with exhaust emissions running into it. What could go wrong?[/QUOTE] I was hesitant to react to this because I've actually had to be the subject for a Military-OSHA experiment involving driving a Diesel forklift in an enclosed magazine and I didn't think the test was [I]as[/I] bad as the headline made it out to be. But holy shit. [QUOTE] exposed 10 monkeys to fumes - [B]in an air-tight chamber[/B] - [/QUOTE] They literally made a gas chamber and gassed monkeys. :disgust:

I'm not sure what they were hoping to achieve with such small sample sizes. It's certainly bad science even before ethical problems.

wouldn't it technically be a diesal chamber?

The germans just can't help themselves, can they?

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9p0jLMssSk[/media]

[QUOTE=download;53093225]I'm not sure what they were hoping to achieve with such small sample sizes. It's certainly bad science even before ethical problems.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the suggestion Meinrich Mimmler, I'm sure Volkswagon will appreciate the suggestion of "They should gas more of them"