New: What happens when you try to post fake news on Facebook now - Sensationalist Headlines

[url]https://qz.com/936503/facebooks-new-method-of-fighting-fake-news-is-making-it-hard-for-people-to-post-a-false-story-about-irish-slaves/[/url] [Quote]The new feature appears to be picking up steam. The Facebook fact-checker has begun flagging a story that was shared widely on the lead-up to St. Patrick’s Day (March 17) that falsely claims thousands of Irish people were brought to the United States as slaves. This is what happens when you try to share the story on Facebook:[/quote] [T]https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/screen-shot-2017-03-19-at-12-09-44-pm.png?w=640&h=418[/t] [T]https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/screen-shot-2017-03-19-at-12-10-27-pm.png?w=916[/t] [T]https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/screen-shot-2017-03-19-at-12-53-13-pm.png?w=1306[/t] [Quote]From here, Facebook links me to pages on Snopes and AP that fact check the Irish slavery story. (Spoiler: There was no Irish slave trade.) The AP writes, “The false articles, trending on social media as Ireland’s national holiday approaches Friday, typically reprint entire sections from a comprehensively debunked 2008 column posted on a website that promotes conspiracy theories.”[/quote] Next up Facepunch

At least Facebook's doing something to stab this nonsense in the junk.

They're unlikely to be able to cover even a fraction of the shit that gets posted, but perhaps putting enough of a doubt in peoples' minds about the accuracy of some sources will see demand drop off to some extent.

This is actually a pretty good solution tbh. Instead of trying to ban it or whatever, they're alerting people that "hey this may not be true, check it out" and giving people the resources to do actual research.

Fact checking sites are fake news.

Psssht, snopes and AP have a known liberal bias. I wouldn't trust anything they say. Now read this breaitbart article I found about the MEXICAN cartels EXECUTING fishermen in Fronton, Texas AMERICA

[QUOTE=dark-vivec;51984088]Fact checking sites are fake news.[/QUOTE] I've already heard this countless times from right-wingers. To them anything that isn't at least a right-slanted news network is "fake news".

Friend status posts decreased by 75% Hopefully

I see this having some unintended consequences. For example, this might make people think that any article not marked by FB is legitimate, which is obviously not true. There's no way to check every article.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51984101]I've already heard this countless times from right-wingers. To them anything that isn't at least a right-slanted news network is "fake news".[/QUOTE] Can you stop generalizing please??? Why do you think it's so harmful when people on one side generalize then proceed to generalize everyone on that side as generalizers? This isn't an issue of "right wingers", it's an issue of uneducated hicks and regressionists.

I feel like this can be abused by the fact checkers easily

[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;51984126]I feel like this can be abused by the fact checkers easily[/QUOTE] How? If a fact checker becomes abusive, facebook will just no longer use that fact checker.

Who the hell would actually believe the Irish were slaves? They were treated like shit and discriminated against but the closest any white person came to slavery was indentured servitude if you had debt to pay off.

[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;51984126]I feel like this can be abused by the fact checkers easily[/QUOTE] No shit, but I'd rather it be a 3rd party fact checking organization than Facebook starting an independent department.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51984112]I see this having some unintended consequences. For example, this might make people think that any article not marked by FB is legitimate, which is obviously not true. There's no way to check every article.[/QUOTE] Better than not bothering at all.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51984138]Who the hell would actually believe the Irish were slaves? They were treated like shit and discriminated against but the closest any white person came to slavery was indentured servitude if you had debt to pay off.[/QUOTE] You could easily become trapped in debt or find yourself working just to work -- for example factories which required you to live on the factory grounds in their own barracks, then charged you the same in rent as what they paid you for working. It's not slavery in the sense of what legal black slaves were put through but don't pretend it isn't a horrific ethical abuse that was inescapable for many whites (and Chinese and Mexicans and so on) who would ultimately be worked to death in those conditions. To me, this is functionally a form of slavery, even if it is less severe and theoretically escapable. That said - while this kind of wage slavery or what have you is horrible, it doesn't outweigh or equal the actual systematic buying and selling of a specific race like property, but it is a real argument that can be brought up when it's suggested that whites never had it bad. History sucks, there's no such thing as absolutes.

Good.

Anything on if they plan on applying this to advertisements too? Those unfortunate enough to not use an ad blocker for whatever reason still have a right to know that "awesome greatest mmo *year* " is actually watching a timer tick down, contrary to how the ad shows footage from some unrelated indie game.

What happens when you try and post breitbart and infowars articles?

[QUOTE=SteakStyles;51984168]Anything on if they plan on applying this to advertisements too? Those unfortunate enough to not use an ad blocker for whatever reason still have a right to know that "awesome greatest mmo *year* " is actually watching a timer tick down, contrary to how the ad shows footage from some unrelated indie game.[/QUOTE] Ads give them money, so probably not

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51984138]Who the hell would actually believe the Irish were slaves? They were treated like shit and discriminated against but the closest any white person came to slavery was indentured servitude if you had debt to pay off.[/QUOTE] I don't want to derail the thread but have you ever noticed that white men go crazy when something doesn't involve them? Look at threads that's about something bad that happened to a woman or an ethnic person, there's always a post or a few about how men or white people go through that. Like if a woman was raped, they'll come in and start posting about how men are falsely accused all the time and women get away with it, or if it's domestic abuse, they start posting about how men are abused too but don't report it. Then threads get derailed with those posts. Same if there's an attack on a non-white, they start coming in and posting about how white people are victims are "reverse racism." What I'm leading to is that this is another type of "See? this happens to white people too!" as to include themselves into whatever the topic is. My anthropology professor would probably say something like this is the white mans' attempt at staying relevant in a world where minorities are taking over similar to white people voting for Trump in an attempt to retain the status quo but I don't really know or care. White people aren't as hated as they think they are but you'll never see non-whites having parades and marching to declare to the world they like their white people

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51984158]You could easily become trapped in debt or find yourself working just to work -- for example factories which required you to live on the factory grounds in their own barracks, then charged you the same in rent as what they paid you for working. It's not slavery in the sense of what legal black slaves were put through but don't pretend it isn't a horrific ethical abuse that was inescapable for many whites (and Chinese and Mexicans and so on) who would ultimately be worked to death in those conditions. To me, this is functionally a form of slavery, even if it is less severe and theoretically escapable. That said - while this kind of wage slavery or what have you is horrible, it doesn't outweigh or equal the actual systematic buying and selling of a specific race like property, but it is a real argument that can be brought up when it's suggested that whites never had it bad. History sucks, there's no such thing as absolutes.[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about wage slavery. Back in the day indentured servitude was more of a contract for providing labor for years in exchange for transport on a ship or other materials, of which that labor went unpaid if I recall correctly.

[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;51984126]I feel like this can be abused by the fact checkers easily[/QUOTE] As long as the list is public, and there are enough people willing to give facebook and those fact checkers shit, it won't be abused. Plus if 1 article is mislabeled as misleading means that the whole system is compromised and the warning is useless.

But who fact checks the fact checkers? Honestly though this is a step in the right direction, it might even burst a bubble or two, who knows.

[QUOTE=bdd458;51984081]This is actually a pretty good solution tbh. Instead of trying to ban it or whatever, they're alerting people that "hey this may not be true, check it out" and giving people the resources to do actual research.[/QUOTE] Except the people who post this kind of shit see Snopes and the like as "liberal shills". No, I'm not kidding. [img]http://i.imgur.com/lLTYqMn.jpg[/img] Funnily enough, this was also involving a discussion about "Irish Slaves" and devolved into a discussion where I provided multiple sources and the last guy's response basically amounted to "no it's liberal propaganda, and YOU'RE wrong!" Even "Irish America" was a "liberal-controlled site" in his eyes.

[QUOTE=El Burro;51984208]But who fact checks the fact checkers? Honestly though this is a step in the right direction, it might even burst a bubble or two, who knows.[/QUOTE] The people who read the fact-checkers and are thus able to find discrepancies in their fact-checking process, of course!

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51984122]Can you stop generalizing please??? Why do you think it's so harmful when people on one side generalize then proceed to generalize everyone on that side as generalizers? This isn't an issue of "right wingers", it's an issue of uneducated hicks and regressionists.[/QUOTE] Sad to say, but my FB friends who are uneducated hicks and regressionists, are also right-wingers.

I remember when snopes just debunked myths and rumours. How far they've come.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51984138]Who the hell would actually believe the Irish were slaves? They were treated like shit and discriminated against but the closest any white person came to slavery was indentured servitude if you had debt to pay off.[/QUOTE] *or were a criminal

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;51984072]They're unlikely to be able to cover even a fraction of the shit that gets posted, but perhaps putting enough of a doubt in peoples' minds about the accuracy of some sources will see demand drop off to some extent.[/QUOTE] Idunno, if they dedicate enough server racks to it they can have it screen every news post that shows up as a hyperlink, and that would have a drastic cooling effect on the echo chambers that form almost universally on Facebook. If it works it'd actually be one step towards remedying the reasons I don't use it, too, one of the big ones being the political cancer that floods every wall on the site. I wholeheartedly approve of this measure and of the tactic they're using to combat the problem.