‘Out of control’ Southern California fire explodes as growing blazes force tens of thousands to flee - Sensationalist Headlines

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/12/05/out-of-control-southern-california-brush-fire-grows-from-50-to-25000-acres-in-7-hours/[/url] [QUOTE]VENTURA, Calif. — Ferocious fires tore through Southern California on Tuesday, burning massive stretches of land in a matter of hours and forcing tens of thousands of people from their homes. As firefighters in Ventura County grappled with an explosive blaze northwest of downtown Los Angeles, others across the region confronted additional fires that burned during the day and forced additional evacuations. Authorities issued ominous warnings of more dangers to come during a “multi-day event” across the area, as weather forecasters said the region faces “extreme fire danger” through at least Thursday due to intense Santa Ana winds and low humidity that could cause the fires to grow rapidly. The wildfires are the latest grim chapter in a brutal year for California, coming just months after deadly blazes in the state’s wine country killed dozens of people and razed thousands of buildings.[/QUOTE] its fucking december and there's going to be no rain all week christ

[img]https://i.imgur.com/vBCwdEx.png[/img] Imagine working for years to build up your home and 'make it yours', and then some unfortunate week this happens.

[QUOTE=bitches;52949620][img]https://i.imgur.com/vBCwdEx.png[/img] Imagine working for years to build up your home and 'make it yours', and then some unfortunate week this happens.[/QUOTE] well, it is one of the risks you have to be aware of when moving into that area

[QUOTE=milktree;52949647]well, it is one of the risks you have to be aware of when moving into that area[/QUOTE] a risk that, when it unfortunately happens, is still devastating [B]regardless.[/B]

We've been having winds around 16-20 mph here by the coast. Back inland where the fire's burning It's getting around 30-35 mph with gusts up to 60 mph. My stepdad was actually working not far from there last night. They had to transfer patients to another hospital since It's getting dangerous out there

[QUOTE=L'Citizen;52949676]We've been having winds around 16-20 mph here by the coast. Back inland where the fire's burning It's getting around 30-35 mph with gusts up to 60 mph. My stepdad was actually working not far from there last night. They had to transfer patients to another hospital since It's getting dangerous out there[/QUOTE] I live inland, and this is the worst wind we've had in years. It's tearing 30ft tall trees out of the ground, tipping over trucks on the freeways, and knocking out power all over. It's also supposed to continue for a few more days.

All the FPers out there, please stay safe. Evacuate if they tell you to. No possession is worth a life

[QUOTE=Alec W;52949649]a risk that, when it unfortunately happens, is still devastating [B]regardless.[/B][/QUOTE] I wonder why they don't build their homes out of concrete at that point. Then again I've heard some forest fires get hot enough to melt the road, so it'd probly just melt the house too.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52949944]I wonder why they don't build their homes out of concrete at that point. Then again I've heard some forest fires get hot enough to melt the road, so it'd probly just melt the house too.[/QUOTE] Well even if you made your house out of concrete it'd still turn everything inside of it into charcoal.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52949944]I wonder why they don't build their homes out of concrete at that point. Then again I've heard some forest fires get hot enough to melt the road, so it'd probly just melt the house too.[/QUOTE] * Wood is cheap, lightweight, and easy to build * Concrete will crack due to freezing water, stress, earthquakes, etc * It's hard to modify concrete walls (adding a window for example)

I live about 10 miles south of one of the big ones, and all the smoke is blowing down here. I've been stuck inside all day because the air is so thick with smoke. I fucking hate living here.

My parents are about 15 miles south of the northwestern big ones, in Burbank. They say they're safe but it's hard to breathe outside. Scary stuff.

[URL="https://files.catbox.moe/rruh17.jpg"]this was my view last night, pretty scary[/URL] going outside isn't a fun time, really hope it clears up soon

[highlight]IF YOU LIVE IN AN AREA THAT HAS AN EVACUATION ALERT, GATHER ALL YOUR SENTIMENTAL AND EXPENSIVE SMALL POSSESSIONS, PUT THEM IN YOUR EVAC CAR, AND PREPARE TO LEAVE AT ANY TIME![/highlight] I had a full week to prepare for two wildfires in the last 5 years, and every time I made sure my car was loaded up to the max (minus space for a cat carrier) with all of my things. Photos, year books, childhood comfort possessions, etc. As far as jewelry goes, I was able to fit it all in a small shoe box, so it's kind of a no brainer in that regard. You can buy a new couch, you can buy a new TV, and you can buy a new home, the only thing you can't buy are precious memories from the past. If you're like me and are self employed, don't forget to take as many work related items (that aren't insured) as possible. Basically all HDD's, flash drives, physical documents related to clients, and even your PC if necessary. Don't think you can outrun a fire, because fire doesn't give a shit even if there's a mountain in the way, it'll climb down 2000 feet in less than 30 minutes. [editline]5th December 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=milktree;52949647]well, it is one of the risks you have to be aware of when moving into that area[/QUOTE] ...So the entirety of the Western half of the Continental US?

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52949944]I wonder why they don't build their homes out of concrete at that point. Then again I've heard some forest fires get hot enough to melt the road, so it'd probly just melt the house too.[/QUOTE] The bitumen binder in asphalt softens and starts to flow at a relatively low temperature. Concrete, on the other hand, uses cement as a binder and melts at a much, much higher temperature.

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;52950241] ...So the entirety of the Western half of the Continental US?[/QUOTE] sorta, yeah. it's fact. wildfires like these are more prone to happen in those areas.

[QUOTE=milktree;52950384]sorta, yeah. it's fact. wildfires like these are more prone to happen in those areas.[/QUOTE] How about the next time somebody tries to empathize with someones misfortune after they lose their home and all their posessions, you [i]don't[/i] respond with, "Yeah well what do you expect, wild fires are common there."

great job putting words in my mouth.

I don't think "knowing the risks" would be a valid issue when a majority of civilization is under some sort of impending threat of catastrophic disaster, whether it be storms, quakes, fires, or waves.

make sure you guys ware any kind of mask when you go outside i made the mistake during the napa fire two months ago

[QUOTE=milktree;52950512]great job putting words in my mouth.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm not doing so great with expressing my thoughts tonight, that's my fault man I'm sorry. [QUOTE=Fapplejack;52950596]I don't think "knowing the risks" would be a valid issue when a majority of civilization is under some sort of impending threat of catastrophic disaster, whether it be storms, quakes, fires, or waves.[/QUOTE] This is actually [i]exactly[/i] what I wanted to say, but couldn't put it to words because emotions got in the way, thanks Fapps.

i apologize if it seems like i was downplaying the tragedy. all I wanted to convey was that a home owner in that area isn't going to be as caught off guard by a wildfire than someone who lives in say new york

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;52950241][highlight]IF YOU LIVE IN AN AREA THAT HAS AN EVACUATION ALERT, GATHER ALL YOUR SENTIMENTAL AND EXPENSIVE SMALL POSSESSIONS, PUT THEM IN YOUR EVAC CAR, AND PREPARE TO LEAVE AT ANY TIME![/highlight] Longtime lurker here, I think the last time I posted here was another wildfire thread. This is exceptionally dangerous advice to give people without the caveat of leaving EARLY. I've been a firefighter in Australia for quite a few years now, and by far the most dangerous thing you can do in a fire is to get in your car and leave when you can already see the fire. The vast majority of all fire related fatalities are due to people getting in their cars and then being caught in the middle of the firestorm. Houses and properties CAN be defended by the owner, so long as they are properly prepared. Get out EARLY if you are going to.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52949944]I wonder why they don't build their homes out of concrete at that point. Then again I've heard some forest fires get hot enough to melt the road, so it'd probly just melt the house too.[/QUOTE] If all of our buildings were made of concrete then earthquakes would be even more devastating than they are. Also, tarmac melts easily.

[media]https://twitter.com/WLV_investor/status/938410022538682368[/media] This was taken 5 miles from my best friend's house :( [t]http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/fires/gm6isw/picture188370114/alternates/FREE_1140/satellite%20image[/t]

[QUOTE=milktree;52949647]well, it is one of the risks you have to be aware of when moving into that area[/QUOTE] Some people are born there

Stay safe California FPers. Any word on FARTHER South? Like San Francisco? Have someone that lives in Fremont but, I'm not longer in contact with her and would like an small update.

[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;52961679]Stay safe California FPers. Any word on FARTHER South? Like San Francisco? Have someone that lives in Fremont but, I'm not longer in contact with her and would like an small update.[/QUOTE] Down in San Diego We're getting fire warnings left and right and there's one still going on today until 8 pm. Honestly 3 days ago I heard about the wildfires still running rampant and that they were actually getting closer south. Come next day I'm in my room and my alarms start blazing telling me to prepare to evacuate in case we are directed to and a few hours later I'm hearing the fire alarms go off in the next building over, and THEN I'm hearing about a fire started up in Mission Valley. Being in the Navy I could probably escape to safety on the boat but the water is so suspiciously green I think it'd catch on fire too.

[QUOTE=MoopsiePook;52961720]Down in San Diego We're getting fire warnings left and right and there's one still going on today until 8 pm. Honestly 3 days ago I heard about the wildfires still running rampant and that they were actually getting closer south. Come next day I'm in my room and my alarms start blazing telling me to prepare to evacuate in case we are directed to and a few hours later I'm hearing the fire alarms go off in the next building over, and THEN I'm hearing about a fire started up in Mission Valley. Being in the Navy I could probably escape to safety on the boat but the water is so suspiciously green I think it'd catch on fire too.[/QUOTE] I don't think the we have a reason to be concerned. Between all the streets, railroads and the gap around the perimeter fence around 32nd Street there isn't really anything to burn around the bases itself and that goes for most bases down here. As far as I'm aware of we've never ever sortied for fires, bad weather, a volcano once but never wildfires. You'd have to intentionally start a fire on base and that would be really hard to do since every base has its own dedicated Fire Department. That being said none of the bases are really in danger except for Camp Pendleton which I hear is kind of getting scorched a little.

As unfortunate as this is, I think these fires endangering an area so important to the entertainment and media industries will finally create public discourse on the impacts that climate change has on our society. Even with Fort McMurray's fires, Alberta and Texas floods, hurricane seasons that worsen every year, and weather patterns that wildly divert to one extreme or the other can be easily tuned out by the public eye. Seeing something as iconic as Southern California on fire won't be so easy to ignore, either by the public or by environmental protection regulators. [editline]9th December 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=milktree;52949647]well, it is one of the risks you have to be aware of when moving into that area[/QUOTE] The risks of wildfire has always been there, true, but like many other wildfires we've seen, it's been aggravated in recent years by changing environmental conditions. In BC and Alberta the fires were triggered by an abundance of dead wood and a lack of decomposers that don't survive the winter: when foliage dies, the biomass isn't being thinned out and carted away by insects, creating a large amount of fuel that makes for great wildfire potential (It used to be thought that bark beetles and the like would actually increase wildfire risk due to killing trees, but it's been observed that their presence actually reduces wildfire potential). Went off on a ramble, but the point is that most people that live there were already established before these became the norm.