Australian Gun amnesty: Rocket launcher, automatic rifles among 57,000 firearms handed in - Sensationalist Headlines

[t]http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9496120-3x2-940x627.jpg[/t] [quote=ABC News][b]Thousands of automatic rifles, handguns and a rocket launcher are among the weapons handed in during last year's National Firearms Amnesty.[/b] The final results, released today, show 57,324 firearms were handed in between July and September across Australia to be registered or destroyed. Authorities received around 2,500 fully-automatic or semi-automatic guns that were previously unaccounted for, and 2,900 handguns. The rocket launcher was handed in to a licensed firearms dealer in Queensland, who believes it was once recovered at a local tip. New South Wales received the highest number of firearms at 24,831, followed by Queensland on 16,375. Victorians handed in 9,175 guns. Almost a third of the weapons were destroyed, with the rest either registered and handed back, or passed on to a licensed dealer for resale. Federal Minister for Law Enforcement Angus Taylor said the weapons were no longer on the "grey market", which refers to guns that are not registered and not in the hands of criminals. "It's critical to get them off this grey market … so they don't end up in the black market," he said. [b]Some of the firearms handed over:[/b] - Norinco SKK semi-automatic rifle - A WWII Russian PPSH submachine gun - Martini Henry rifle circa 1873 - Spandau MG08 heavy machine gun - Beaumont Adams Revolver circa 1856 - A homemade machine gun "We saw with the Lindt Cafe event, Man Monis was using a gun that had come from the grey market." The Lindt Cafe shooter and two of his hostages were killed when police stormed the Sydney cafe in December 2014. The review that followed led to the gun amnesty with the states and Commonwealth agreeing to share the cost.[/quote] Read the rest of the article at [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-01/gun-amnesty-sees-57,000-firearms-handed-in-across-country/9495440[/url]

looks like somebody went digging in their dad's garden

[quote]- Spandau MG08 heavy machine gun[/quote] I'm assuming this was turned in to be registered, not destroyed. A number of those guns are priceless or absurdly rare antiques. I hope the government doesn't just melt them down. I'm having buyback StG44 flashbacks.

Rocket launcher is cool and all, but I wanna see that homemade mg.

Don't tell me the MG08 was melted down.

[img]http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9496156-16x9-340x191.jpg[/img] I'm pretty sure this isn't even regulated under AU law as a pre-1900 black powder percussion cap muzzle loader. Good thing they got this evil hopelessly outdated museum piece off the streets.

[quote] Martini Henry rifle circa 1873[/quote] Knowing the Aussies, that one got melted down

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;53168509]Knowing the Aussies, that one got melted down[/QUOTE] Wouldn't want anyone reenacting Rorke's Drift in downtown Sydney I reckon

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;53168509]Knowing the Aussies, that one got melted down[/QUOTE] Given it's an antique rifle you don't need a license to own, they either would've given it back to the owner or given it to a dealer, this wasn't just a "destroy all the guns ever" feelgood campaign

I wanna see that homemade machine gun. Australia tends to be top-tier in homemade dakkah.

yea I hope they dont just melt down everything they get, if anybody remembers the horror stories of all the good cars that were crushed during those junk car buyback programs.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;53168503]Rocket launcher is cool and all, but I wanna see that homemade mg.[/QUOTE] The Bikies are pretty adept at making homemade weapons. Not exactly an mg but here's one from a previous thread [t]http://gunsnfreedom.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/australian-gangs-are-making-diy-machine-guns-despite-gun-ban.jpg[/t] And here's more from google search [t]https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/lutyausseized2.jpg[/t] [t]http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/0d675b190b25574c080654295f977b08?width=650[/t]

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53168501]I'm assuming this was turned in to be registered, not destroyed. A number of those guns are priceless or absurdly rare antiques. I hope the government doesn't just melt them down. I'm having buyback StG44 flashbacks.[/QUOTE] More than likely kept. I did work experience at my local police station about six years ago while in high school. They showed me around their evidence locker, which had a number of confiscated fire arms. I remember them saying, any fire arms that have historic significance or are rare/antiques are kept and registered, not destroyed. This was at a New South Wales police station, so unsure as to what other States do.

[QUOTE=adam1172;53168552]The Bikies are pretty adept at making homemade weapons. Not exactly an mg but here's one from a previous thread [t]http://gunsnfreedom.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/australian-gangs-are-making-diy-machine-guns-despite-gun-ban.jpg[/t] And here's more from google search [t]https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/lutyausseized2.jpg[/t] [t]http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/0d675b190b25574c080654295f977b08?width=650[/t][/QUOTE] Good ol' Lutys. Pretty high end builds, though. The first one, while crude looking, is on par with a lot of actual production firearms. The second and third are very nice indeed. [editline]28th February 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=-n3o-;53168569]More than likely kept. I did work experience at my local police station about six years ago while in high school. They showed me around their evidence locker, which had a number of confiscated fire arms. I remember them saying, any fire arms that have historic significance or are rare/antiques are kept and registered, not destroyed. This was at a New South Wales police station, so unsure as to what other States do.[/QUOTE] That's really nice to hear. In the US, buybacks are a good source of historic carnage. [img]https://i.imgur.com/FjzebsH.jpg[/img] Don't remember which state this was in, but the short of it is someone turned this in for a gift card.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53168570]Good ol' Lutys. Pretty high end builds, though. The first one, while crude looking, is on par with a lot of actual production firearms. The second and third are very nice indeed. [editline]28th February 2018[/editline] That's really nice to hear. In the US, buybacks are a good source of historic carnage. [img]https://i.imgur.com/FjzebsH.jpg[/img] Don't remember which state this was in, but the short of it is someone turned this in for a gift card.[/QUOTE] I remember the one buyback where some lady handed in an Stg (belonged to her deceased husband who brought it back from WW2) that was worth like $50,000 and thankfully one of the cops recognized it as a piece of history and saved it iirc

- Martini Henry rifle circa 1873 - Spandau MG08 heavy machine gun - Beaumont Adams Revolver circa 1856 and let me guess it gets destroyed and not sold to museum sad if true and irony cause if those firearms are in relatively ok state they would sell at auction house to collectors like pancake also for movie industry (today even games industry) those rare historical pieces are useful if preserved

[QUOTE=Dwarden;53168633]- Martini Henry rifle circa 1873 - Spandau MG08 heavy machine gun - Beaumont Adams Revolver circa 1856 and let me guess it gets destroyed and not sold to museum sad if true and irony cause if those firearms are in relatively ok state they would sell at auction house to collectors like pancake also for movie industry (today even games industry) those rare historical pieces are useful if preserved[/QUOTE] It literally says near the top of the article only 30% were destroyed with the rest being registered and returned or passed onto licensed dealers. They're not going to destroy valuable historic items like that.

[QUOTE=BF;53168481]- A WWII Russian PPSH submachine gun[/QUOTE] How in the hell did that end up in Straya of all places?

[QUOTE=Rent-a-BoxHouse;53168661]How in the hell did that end up in Straya of all places?[/QUOTE] Aus used to have, like, next to no gun laws, and in the 50s you could pretty much put anything you wanted on a boat and unload it anywhere you wanted without consequence, which is how a lot of weird shit ended up in a lot of weird places.

Well its great knowing they don't really see any issues with turning it in.

[QUOTE=MuTAnT;53168642]It literally says near the top of the article only 30% were destroyed with the rest being registered and returned or passed onto licensed dealers. They're not going to destroy valuable historic items like that.[/QUOTE] We can hope, there's a lot of stupid people out there.

[QUOTE=Ignhelper;53168721]Well its great knowing they don't really see any issues with turning it in.[/QUOTE] They had an amnesty so that people who have unregistered guns, or who have guns which they do not have a licence to own, could safely get rid of them without fear of prosecution. Because it’s either them taking up the amnesty, or illegally selling them on the black market, or living with the knowledge that the police could come across their guns and charge them for illegal possession. [editline]1st March 2018[/editline] The aim of the amnesty is to make it harder for criminals and would-be criminals to get their hands on guns at all, by restricting circulation in the black and grey markets. And of course, it’s very hard for someone to legally acquire a gun, too.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53168505][img]http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9496156-16x9-340x191.jpg[/img] I'm pretty sure this isn't even regulated under AU law as a pre-1900 black powder percussion cap muzzle loader. Good thing they got this evil hopelessly outdated museum piece off the streets.[/QUOTE] Don't be so presumptuous! One could commit uncouth acts of vagabondery within a toffee-shop with such a conveyance! [editline]1st March 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Grenadiac;53168663]Aus used to have, like, next to no gun laws, and in the 50s you could pretty much put anything you wanted on a boat and unload it anywhere you wanted without consequence, which is how a lot of weird shit ended up in a lot of weird places.[/QUOTE] Australia is one country I could legitimately understand having unrestricted firearms, especially in its earlier days, because holy fuck so much of the stuff in Australia will kill your ass.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53168501]I'm assuming this was turned in to be registered, not destroyed. A number of those guns are priceless or absurdly rare antiques. I hope the government doesn't just melt them down. I'm having buyback StG44 flashbacks.[/QUOTE] You can almost be guaranteed it will be chopped up. [editline]1st March 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=kaze4159;53168537]Given it's an antique rifle you don't need a license to own, they either would've given it back to the owner or given it to a dealer, this wasn't just a "destroy all the guns ever" feelgood campaign[/QUOTE] In most states cartridge firearms, regardless of year manufactured need to be registered. I should also point out the rifle would not be in police hands if it was going to be registered and given back. If you want your gun registered you have to take it to a dealer.

I saw an SKS with a banana magazine when I was 12, in Sydney. My father socialized with some shady types, one of whom made his considerable living in the black market. Incidentally, a similar weapon was used recently in QLD to ambush a police officer. Theres still plenty of firepower floating around Australias black market, particularly post-vietnam stuff which got cached around the countryside. The thing is, it is never used and probably will never be outside of some sort of extreme gangland scenario which would not be all that long lived anyway. Because believe it or not, criminals arent in the habit of lugging around battle rifles, nor the habit of indiscriminately killing people. People on the pro-prohibition side of the gun debate are reflex quick to point to Australia as a model of gun control, but its funny because most of the studies we've had on post gun control analysis have considered it to be of either no, or minor effect. And no one ever considers New Zealand next door, who have relatively more relaxed firearm laws (its nearly impossible to get any kind of self loading magazine fed rifle in Australia, its still possible to get say, an L1A1, in new zealand with a bit of work) and even less firearm homicide than us. That said, no one is really complaining in Australia. While there was a certain "rifleman" culture as a natural extension of early frontier culture in autralia, there has never been a "gun culture" comparable to America. Farmers and such are plenty happy with lever and bolt action rifles/shotguns.

I love how everyone is complaining/speculating about all the destroyed guns when it says right in the article that less than a third were destroyed.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53168501]I'm assuming this was turned in to be registered, not destroyed. A number of those guns are priceless or absurdly rare antiques. I hope the government doesn't just melt them down. I'm having buyback StG44 flashbacks.[/QUOTE] Probs already being scrapped for parts lol

[QUOTE=Socram;53168825]I love how everyone is complaining/speculating about all the destroyed guns when it says right in the article that less than a third were destroyed.[/QUOTE] They're probably americans flocking to gun related threads, and thus unable to read. My dad was a cop that was stationed on a tonne of one man stations across the 80's and 90's in Australia, and came across a disgusting amount of random weapons out in the bush, especially stuff hoarded at sheep stations, especially leftover shit from the 50's. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - GunFox))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Rent-a-BoxHouse;53168661]How in the hell did that end up in Straya of all places?[/QUOTE] Vietnam bringback most likely

[QUOTE=Socram;53168825]I love how everyone is complaining/speculating about all the destroyed guns when it says right in the article that less than a third were destroyed.[/QUOTE] The machine guns can't be registered so they'll get the chop. The other guns being paraded about by the police are surrender guns; you can't register them during the amnesty by handing them to the police, they have to go through a dealer.