Two women throttled and tortured vulnerable man in 'sickening' 24-hour after internet date - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote]Two women who spent 24 hours beating, throttling, and torturing a vulnerable man tricked into going on an internet date have each been jailed for more than two years. Tanisha Williams, 20, a Greenwich University student, lured the 27-year-old victim to her flat in Battersea after meeting him through dating website TangoWire. When he arrived, she locked the door and told him: “You’re going to die today.”[/quote] [url]http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/two-women-throttled-and-tortured-vulnerable-man-after-internet-date-a3580261.html[/url] 28 months, my arse. Should be much longer

Are you fucking serious? Just over two years? For this? [quote]Williams and her accomplice Paige Springer, a 20-year-old mother of two, then attacked the man with a metal pole, throttled him with the cord from a set of hair straighteners and threatened him with an electric drill. The man, who has learning difficulties, was stripped naked and dunked in a cold bath during the ordeal, which lasted 24 hours, Kingston crown court heard. He was eventually released when someone visiting the flat saw his bloodied face and called 999. [/quote]

What the actual fuck.

[quote]Both women repeatedly punched, kicked and slapped the man. Springer, who lives in Balham, tried to hit him on the head with a hammer, saying: “I want to kill her, I want to hit her.”[/quote] [quote]she “deeply regrets” the attack[/quote] ♪ One of these things is not like the other ♫ And if it'd been a woman they'd probably be looking at 10 years lol

I know we're conditioned to expect long sentences but 2 years sounds fine for either men or women, though its likely a man doing this would get a lot more. Too long in prison can leave people worse off as members of society than they went in, when its supposed to be the other way around. 2 years is long but not so long that there is no hope of getting your life back on track after release.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;52436245]I know we're conditioned to expect long sentences but 2 years sounds fine for either men or women, though its likely a man doing this would get a lot more. Too long in prison can leave people worse off as members of society than they went in, when its supposed to be the other way around. 2 years is long but not so long that there is no hope of getting your life back on track after release.[/QUOTE] They tortured a man, including, but not limited to: choking, beating with various tools, leaving him in a tub of freezing water, and more probably planned. He entered the room to the greeting of "You're going to die today" and probably later believed it. I think they deserve a bit more than two years.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;52436245]I know we're conditioned to expect long sentences but 2 years sounds fine for either men or women, though its likely a man doing this would get a lot more. Too long in prison can leave people worse off as members of society than they went in, when its supposed to be the other way around. 2 years is long but not so long that there is no hope of getting your life back on track after release.[/QUOTE] Your right, if we leave these people in prison for too long they may become dangerous and attack someone

[QUOTE=Mattk50;52436245]I know we're conditioned to expect long sentences but 2 years sounds fine for either men or women, though its likely a man doing this would get a lot more. Too long in prison can leave people worse off as members of society than they went in, when its supposed to be the other way around. 2 years is long but not so long that there is no hope of getting your life back on track after release.[/QUOTE] I can pretty much guarantee that if this had been two 20 year old men that had taken a 27 year old woman prisoner and tortured her, they would be looking at much longer sentencing than 2 years each.

[QUOTE=Gunteen8;52436267]They tortured a man, choking and beating him in the process. He entered the room to the greeting of "You're going to die today." I think they deserve a bit more than two years.[/QUOTE] Its a constant in FP crime threads for people to angrily post about how the obviously terrible people need to be in jail for however many years more than their existing sentence, or if they're in for life how they need to be put to death. The male/female sentencing disparity is worth pointing out too. Following that advice though, we'd just endlessly increase sentences because someone once saw a different sentence that they felt was harsher. It's a lot less common for anyone to go "Nah that sentence is OK" or "but this sentence could be lower" for guilty crimes because in the moment the obviously terrible person needs the worst possible punishment. But that won't get prison populations under control or reduce repeat offenders, UK or US. [QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;52436299]I can pretty much guarantee that if this had been two 20 year old men that had taken a 27 year old woman prisoner and tortured her, they would be looking at much longer sentencing than 2 years each.[/QUOTE] I agree, I've posted about the bias in convictions and sentencing before (though that was about the US) but i observe people usually jump to balancing that through harsher sentencing rather than lighter sentencing. it's easier since nobody wants to be perceived as defending a horrible criminal.

[QUOTE=Luni;52436192]♪ One of these things is not like the other ♫ And if it'd been a woman they'd probably be looking at 10 years lol[/QUOTE] a man doing this to a woman would be for life tbqh

[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;52436361]I dunno, maybe there is some correlation between people being complete pieces of shit and people here on FP hating their guts? If you're so sick in the head you'd torture a stranger for no fucking reason for a [I]day[/I], you deserve to spend a couple of quiet years behind the bars to think about what the fuck you're doing with your life[/QUOTE] A couple of years is what I was agreeing with. Not even in the most rehabilitation oriented countries would these two not require significant time behind bars.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;52436302]Its a constant in FP crime threads for people to angrily post about how the obviously terrible people need to be in jail for however many years more than their existing sentence, or if they're in for life how they need to be put to death. The male/female sentencing disparity is worth pointing out too. Following that advice though, we'd just endlessly increase sentences because someone once saw a different sentence that they felt was harsher. It's a lot less common for anyone to go "Nah that sentence is OK" or "but this sentence could be lower" for guilty crimes because in the moment the obviously terrible person needs the worst possible punishment. But that won't get prison populations under control or reduce repeat offenders, UK or US. [/QUOTE] The reason you see it so often in FP threads is because often times, there may be justification in wanting a harsher sentence. In my experience, those threads show up [I]because[/I] the sentence was so short and the OP is sharing it for that fact. Like, this is attempted murder. She said "You're going to die today." I don't think that the correct move would be to move to lighter sentencing as a standard, especially in regards to something like this. I know there's a standard at some level, but it's certainly not at two years.

Two years? Pathetic.

This man will be traumatized for life, these women deserve 20 years minimum.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;52436245]I know we're conditioned to expect long sentences but 2 years sounds fine for either men or women, though its likely a man doing this would get a lot more. Too long in prison can leave people worse off as members of society than they went in, when its supposed to be the other way around. 2 years is long but not so long that there is no hope of getting your life back on track after release.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but you threaten to kill someone with the words "you are going to die today" after beating the shit out of him with a metal pole, threaten him with an electric drill and repeatedly threatened to fucking murder him by stabbing, and in other methods torture him, you deserve to rot for a lot longer than two years. They've both already proven themselves a threat to society as a whole. A long sentence threatening to render them harmful is a moot point, like pissing to an ocean already full of piss. As for your point of getting their life back on track, they're already fucked in that regard. Literally nobody will want to employ these two psychotics known for torturing someone under the constant threat of death.

Two years is far too good for these shit sacks, how could anyone defend this sentence?

Absolute trash, should be tried as attempted murder.

[QUOTE=andy85258;52436802]Two years is far too good for these shit sacks, how could anyone defend this sentence?[/QUOTE]"Cause men made them this way" Calling it

Get me out of this country :cry:

Total puss pass. Imagine the rage if two guys did this to a girl with learning difficulties.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;52436245]I know we're conditioned to expect long sentences but 2 years sounds fine for either men or women, though its likely a man doing this would get a lot more. Too long in prison can leave people worse off as members of society than they went in, when its supposed to be the other way around. 2 years is long but not so long that there is no hope of getting your life back on track after release.[/QUOTE] No! 2 years is too much! They could be turned into worse criminals! 1 Week is enough!! These people are fucking trash and should be thrown into prison for longer than two years.

jesus christ [img]https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/article_large/public/thumbnails/image/2017/07/05/10/paige.jpg[/img] why is this not tried as attempted murder anyway? they obviously had the intention to kill the man

[QUOTE=duckmaster;52436774]This man will be traumatized for life, these women deserve 20 years minimum.[/QUOTE] The punishment doesn't really fit the crime here. 10 years would at least be rational over something like this. :/ I mean what part of assault and torture over an extended period of time gets such a weak sentence?

guys arguing about sentence length: this crime had INTENT to torture and kill. the nature of cruelty was so inhuman and vile. you really believe this kind of act deserves a lenient sentence? torture, for me is a horrific crime and torturing a vulnerable adult cannot be forgiven.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;52436245]I know we're conditioned to expect long sentences but 2 years sounds fine for either men or women, though its likely a man doing this would get a lot more. Too long in prison can leave people worse off as members of society than they went in, when its supposed to be the other way around. 2 years is long but not so long that there is no hope of getting your life back on track after release.[/QUOTE] It could be two years or twenty years, either way with our punishment-focused prison system, the likelihood of them realizing the wrongness of what they've done and changing their ways is almost null. that's not to say it won't happen, but don't get your hopes up.

They'll be out in less than 2 years 4 months. We'll probably have them back on the streets in a little over a year. You can bet a male wouldn't be walking for atleast 5 years, even if they could get released on good behaviour. Utterly pathetic judges

Good lord you guys are setting new records for projection. I mean listen to yourselves -- [QUOTE=MissingNoGuy;52436822]"Cause men made them this way" Calling it[/QUOTE] No one is saying that ?? [QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;52436884]Total puss pass. Imagine the rage if two guys did this to a girl with learning difficulties.[/QUOTE] There's already an outrage, is it not enough for you? The sentence is ridiculous, obviously. That's a flaw with the judicial system and the judge. Yes, women are favored in the court in some cases -- marital and child custody, for example -- but you've gotta be on some shit to look at this story and spin some wild narrative about a "pussy pass". The only explanation I can think of is that the article brought it up for some reason, but the website seems to be down at the moment and I can't read it in full.

two years is fucking horseshit

I'm usually for more lenient sentences when it concerns negligence or ignorance, but these two women knew [i]exactly[/i] what they were doing the entire time. If you're fucked enough in the head to not only [i]want[/i] to do this, but actually execute it alongside [i]another[/i] likeminded person, you've proven that you have no place in society.

[QUOTE=Beetle179;52437655]No one is saying that ??[/QUOTE]Nope, I never said anyone said that. Maybe you'd like to be the first, though? [QUOTE=Beetle179;52437655]There's already an outrage, is it not enough for you? The sentence is ridiculous, obviously. That's a flaw with the judicial system and the judge. Yes, women are favored in the court in some cases -- marital and child custody, for example -- but you've gotta be on some shit to look at this story and spin some wild narrative about a "pussy pass". The only explanation I can think of is that the article brought it up for some reason, but the website seems to be down at the moment and I can't read it in full. [/quote]Pretty sure they got off with such a short sentence only because they were women. Spin it in a different direction all you like, but that's where all the fingers are pointing to. An outrage is enough, you say? What, you'd rather brush this under the rug and pretend this sentence isn't bullshit and never happened because of their gender? You totally contradicted yourself by saying "the sentence is bullshit but why are you getting the idea it's because they're women?" Well, clearly they only got two years for something other than torturing a man. A non-partisan judge would've probably thrown a very harsh sentence at these two.