In bizarre effort to combat revenge porn, Facebook asks users to send them nudes

[Berkin]

[quote]Facebook's latest attempt to wipe revenge porn off its platform takes an unusual tack: [B]asking users to send in their own nude photos. [/B]

The Australian government's Office of the eSafety Commissioner announced it is joining a pilot program with Facebook to prevent intimate images of users from appearing against their will on the world's largest social network.

According to the eSafety Office, if a Facebook user in Australia is concerned about an intimate image spreading online, they fill out a form, then send the image to themselves using Messenger.

Once Facebook is notified, they use image-matching technology to access and tag the image to prevent anyone from sharing it on their platforms. The measure is designed to block users from sharing a photo before it can do harm.

"This partnership gives Australians a unique opportunity to proactively inoculate themselves from future image-based abuse by coming to our portal and reporting tool," said Julie Inman Grant, Australia's eSafety Commissioner, in a statement.

The limited pilot program is available in three other countries: the U.S., U.K., and Canada. [/quote]

Source: [URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/11/08/facebook-tests-fighting-revenge-porn-asking-users-file-nude-photos-first/843364001/"]https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/11/08/facebook-tests-fighting-revenge-porn-asking-users-file-nude-photos-first/843364001/[/URL]

[Massaki]

uh, no.

[EmperorScorpious]

Whomever thought up that policy is missing a few brain cells.

[YouWithTheFace.]

Call the initiative dick pics against revenge flicks

[Download]

Just imagine if this database got hacked. I think we all know most companies are pathetic when it comes to cybersecurity.

[tratzzz]

Haven't heard of big leaks from Facebook though? It might work, even as dumb as it sounds.

It'd be a bit better when you could simply send them a hash or a censored proof of your nude to ban similar pics?

[DokVis]

You know some group is probably looking into hacking Facebook now.

[Robber]

[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;52872955]I wouldn't call Facebook pathetic with security.. Also it's probably just a hash.[/QUOTE]
Unless there are some hash algorithms specifically for lossy images hashes wouldn't work. If you change even one pixel by one bit the hash must change.

[Flameon]

the policy is a little odd but it makes sense if you think about it

[EmperorScorpious]

[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;52872955]I wouldn't call Facebook pathetic with security.. Also it's probably just a hash.[/QUOTE]

I heard a week or so ago that Facebook is hiring several [I]thousand[/I] people to their security department over the next few months, so I think they should be okay.

Majority of the hires are in response to the Russian fake news meddling that happened in 2016 but I'm sure at least a few hundred of those new hires will be for other cybersecurity things, like hacking prevention.

[Spleet]

Remember kids, mirror image horizontally, invert/desaturate, compress and crop your revenge nudes before uploading.

[Senn]

what if you send something other than your nudes though?

[Berkin]

[QUOTE=Spleet;52873017]Remember kids, mirror image horizontally, invert/desaturate, compress and crop your revenge nudes before uploading.[/QUOTE]

Or DeepDream them

[Tudd Fudders]

The Australian Government needs to get in contact with Nathan Fielder for his idea on how to tackle the worry people will have with government employees handling their nudes.

[media]https://youtu.be/jf9I04Oa-hU[/media]

[01271]

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;52873019]what if you send something other than your nudes though?[/QUOTE]

Send them a photo of trump's face and prevent him from ever showing up on FB news again.

[Senn]

[QUOTE=Spleet;52873017]Remember kids, mirror image horizontally, invert/desaturate, compress and crop your revenge nudes before uploading.[/QUOTE]

That won't work on Facebook's algorithm, regardless of lighting or angle it still detects it

[url]https://research.fb.com/publications/deepface-closing-the-gap-to-human-level-performance-in-face-verification/[/url]

[Spleet]

[QUOTE=Berkin;52873021]Or DeepDream them[/QUOTE]

I like the idea, but I can't jack it to that.

[Lazore]

Ok guys, this is about pictures that have already been shared on facebook.

So when that happens, the person who got the image leaked obviously have the original, which he/she sends to herself with the tag, triggering the system.

Its not like the image wasn't available for facebook to see/find/archive already, and i do think they probably have some system behind it that doesn't allow anyone surveying the system pull out names with matching images.

I think this is a smart system, BUT it is only on images directly on facebook, and only works on identical/close to identical images.

[Tudd Fudders]

I have a feeling there will be a 4chan campaign to trick people to send them nudes using exactly this reasoning.

[Harbie]

Hey Facebook, stop stealing my moves!

[myon]

the dick algorithm of the facebook ai can only grow stronger for every dick pic

[booster]

Sick strategy to get nudes Mark ya dirty bastard

[Protocol7]

Just make a reddit account called PM_ME_DICK_PICS or something, jeez.

[MedicWine]

I could see this working for people that have tattoos, otherwise you would have to go out of your way to take nudes in such a way that an algorithm could tell is you based on the photos you've provided.

"Send me a pic of your butthole"
"Sorry Facebook only knows what my front side looks like"

[Komppu]

What if someone would have identical dick, a dick soulmate.

[rHebKo]

if facebook would show how its processed and prove that it'll never reach human eyes then I'd honestly trust it.

[Tamschi]

[QUOTE=WrathOfCat;52873137]if facebook would show how its processed and prove that it'll never reach human eyes then I'd honestly trust it.[/QUOTE]

That whole process needs to be client-side and done in a way that makes that obvious to the user (i.e. an app without internet permission that creates a pre-written email with the hash and opens it in the mail-app).

Have someone review the photo on first match to figure out if it's actually what the original submission said, and if not let that pending submission go online/public.
You can do this with low friction by showing a notification below the picture if there's a match and not making it visible to anyone except the original poster until reviewed.

[Mudkipslol]

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;52873033]That won't work on Facebook's algorithm, regardless of lighting or angle it still detects it

[url]https://research.fb.com/publications/deepface-closing-the-gap-to-human-level-performance-in-face-verification/[/url][/QUOTE]

What about GMask?

[Lollipoopdeck]

are they implying they don't have them already :v:

[Kube]

This is like a car insurance company saying "to stop others from wrecking your car, we'll wreck it for you!" And just taking a fucking wrecking ball to it.