Pennsylvanian Mass Shooter Documented Plans On Social Media
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[quote]24-year-old Randy Stair opened fire in the store around 1:00 this morning, killing three co-workers, 25-year-old Victoria Brong, 47-year-old Brian Hayes, and 63-year-old Terry Sterling. He then took his own life.
He took to his Twitter page, @EGSWorld to post numerous audio files, letters, and YouTube videos that describe what he was planning to do at the supermarket.
On June 1st, he posted, "I'm gonna need your guys' help next Wednesday night. I'll have more info on this soon, I need someone to record a brief live stream of me."
He continues to refer to a "Westborough High Massacre," and says ,"Ready to die? 'The Westborough High Massacre," coming June 7th, 2017." This was posted on June 2nd.[/quote]
[url]http://www.pahomepage.com/news/details-of-shooting-attack-in-shooters-social-media-posts/735507857[/url]
Fucking insane. There were so many red flags on his Youtube & Twitter. It was obvious he was planning on doing something bad, and this could have be prevented.
Surprised this stuff has been up for 16 hours. I was expecting not being able to find anything on his social media accounts.
So what's the point of the NSA then if this guy can list all his plans like that and not be a massive red flag?
What's the whole point of internet surveillance if a guy can get away with this?
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;52328893]Surprised this stuff has been up for 16 hours. I was expecting not being able to find anything on his social media accounts.[/QUOTE]Everything is still up. There's a 17 hour video where he explains his plans in detail. I can't believe how obvious all of this was and nothing was done about it.
[QUOTE=simzboy;52328957]Everything is still up. There's a 17 hour video where he explains his plans in detail. I can't believe how obvious all of this was and nothing was done about it.[/QUOTE]
He explains himself for 17 hours!?
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;52328963]He explains himself for 17 hours!?[/QUOTE]
It's a collection of audio tapes from the past year. He was planning this for months.
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;52328950]So what's the point of the NSA then if this guy can list all his plans like that and not be a massive red flag?
What's the whole point of internet surveillance if a guy can get away with this?[/QUOTE]
The NSA isn't reading through people's twitters trying to find drug deals and edgelords who want to kill their coworkers, they're not even just sifting through Twitter and Facebook posts as they pop up. They're looking for people who want to detonate dirty bombs in urban areas and people who want to kill hundreds, not 2 or 3. They're doing investigations beyond the rights of US citizens, not simply doing surveillance. They're not looking for small fries, they're looking for spies and treason.
80% of the 350 or so million people in the US have a social media account of some kind, so even if the NSA was actually just sitting there sifting through Facebook and Twitter, they would need half the population of the US to be on the payroll to actually go through all that data on a reliable timeframe to be able to react to it.
Boy I wonder what doofus saw this and thought it was nothing to be concerned about.
Sucks that if someone had thought to report or investigate, it could've been prevented.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;52328963]He explains himself for 17 hours!?[/QUOTE]
The tape up on the Youtube channel is 17 hours long, yes.
[QUOTE=simzboy;52328974]It's a collection of audio tapes from the past year. He was planning this for months.[/QUOTE]
I would say even longer than that. The character's wiki page that I think represents himself "died" by suicide on June 8th, 2015. That page was up in July of that same year.
[QUOTE=Pascall;52328988]Boy I wonder what doofus saw this and thought it was nothing to be concerned about.
Sucks that if someone had thought to report or investigate, it could've been prevented.[/QUOTE]
Theres god knows how much stuff exactly like this all over 4chan and reddit, and nothing ever comes of it. Furthermore, theres a popular meme going on right now:
[img]http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/027/754/918.jpg[/img]
Which parodies school shootings.
So not many people take this stuff seriously, especially since this guy only has 150 followers on twitter. Of the handful of people that actually follow him, not many are real accounts and for the real ones, doubtful few actually read his drivel.
How often do you listen to other people's conversations across the bar? Everyone is surprised that nobody was able to single out this one guy in a sea of noise.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52328981]The NSA isn't reading through people's twitters trying to find drug deals and edgelords who want to kill their coworkers, they're not even just sifting through Twitter and Facebook posts as they pop up. They're looking for people who want to detonate dirty bombs in urban areas and people who want to kill hundreds, not 2 or 3. They're doing investigations beyond the rights of US citizens, not simply doing surveillance. They're not looking for small fries, they're looking for spies and treason.
80% of the 350 or so million people in the US have a social media account of some kind, so even if the NSA was actually just sitting there sifting through Facebook and Twitter, they would need half the population of the US to be on the payroll to actually go through all that data on a reliable timeframe to be able to react to it.[/QUOTE]
They're actually "reading through" everything in the sense that they're collecting everything they can-- it's just a matter of whether or not they can [i]find[/i] whatever it is that they might be looking for, because lots of items of interest do in fact get lost in the petabytes of material they collect on a daily basis.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center]The NSA has a huge data center in Utah[/url] (and possibly others) that works to gather everything from emails, text messages, and internet search history and browsing records to phone call information (and even records the calls themselves, not to mention warrantless eavesdropping that can be done during live conversations), video footage, credit and debit card transaction records, receipts, travel itineraries, social media information, etc. from tens of millions of Americans and many more people all around the world. And that's just one part of their greater surveillance program activities. They also work with dozens of companies who freely provide them with information that their services collect as well (Google, Verizon, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, etc.). Read up about PRISM sometime.
In fact, like I said before, [url=http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-whistleblower-overwhelmed-with-data-ineffective/]the NSA gathers so much data that they have overwhelmed themselves and aren't even able to properly sort through all of it[/url]. They've gathered data of some sort or another from something like [b]four billion people[/b] worldwide, according to that guy (William Binney, who worked there as an intelligence officer in cryptography and mathematics for around 30 years; also worked for the Army Security Agency during Vietnam).
[QUOTE=Govna;52329035]They're actually "reading through" everything in the sense that they're collecting everything they can-- it's just a matter of whether or not they can [i]find[/i] whatever it is that they might be looking for, because lots of items of interest do in fact get lost in the petabytes of material they collect on a daily basis.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center]The NSA has a huge data center in Utah[/url] (and possibly others) that works to gather everything from emails, text messages, and internet search history and browsing records to phone call information (and even records the calls themselves, not to mention warrantless eavesdropping that can be done during live conversations), video footage, credit and debit card transaction records, receipts, travel itineraries, social media information, etc. from tens of millions of Americans and many more people all around the world. And that's just one part of their greater surveillance program activities. They also work with dozens of companies who freely provide them with information that their services collect as well (Google, Verizon, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, etc.). Read up about PRISM sometime.
In fact, like I said before, [url=http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-whistleblower-overwhelmed-with-data-ineffective/]the NSA gathers so much data that they have overwhelmed themselves and aren't even able to properly sort through all of it[/url]. They've gathered data of some sort or another from something like [b]four billion people[/b] worldwide, according to that guy (William Binney, who worked there as an intelligence officer in cryptography and mathematics for around 30 years; also worked for the Army Security Agency during Vietnam).[/QUOTE]
Right, but theyre not just performing surveillance on twitter and facebook. Theyre searching through captured doccuments and videos trying to find actual evidence.
They dont just go to the main twitter feed and start scrolling.
Theyre collecting data and holding it in case it becomes viable in the future.
[video=youtube;MSuFBfQ7vOw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSuFBfQ7vOw[/video]
This is one of the videos he made a few months ago. It's pretty much a case of people sweeping an obvious mental case that's a knockoff of Danny Phantom under the rug
[QUOTE=gnampf;52329586][video=youtube;MSuFBfQ7vOw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSuFBfQ7vOw[/video]
This is one of the videos he made a few months ago. It's pretty much a case of people sweeping an obvious mental case that's a knockoff of Danny Phantom under the rug[/QUOTE]Jesus, I wonder if the voice actors took the time to stop and think about what he was writing.
His youtube channel is just weirder and weirder the more you go in:
[video=youtube;D8EMARpWBuk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8EMARpWBuk[/video]
last video:
[video=youtube;rn8ywqCjjP0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn8ywqCjjP0[/video]
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52328981]The NSA isn't reading through people's twitters trying to find drug deals and edgelords who want to kill their coworkers, they're not even just sifting through Twitter and Facebook posts as they pop up. They're looking for people who want to detonate dirty bombs in urban areas and people who want to kill hundreds, not 2 or 3. They're doing investigations beyond the rights of US citizens, not simply doing surveillance. They're not looking for small fries, they're looking for spies and treason.
80% of the 350 or so million people in the US have a social media account of some kind, so even if the NSA was actually just sitting there sifting through Facebook and Twitter, they would need half the population of the US to be on the payroll to actually go through all that data on a reliable timeframe to be able to react to it.[/QUOTE]
perhaps not a job for the NSA, but i have had homeland security send my entire company home for the day because of a potential threat their systems flagged off an open facebook group
he also uploaded a video of himself walking around the supermarket the day before (reupload):
[video=youtube;5bXU4u6tu6c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bXU4u6tu6c[/video]
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;52328950]So what's the point of the NSA then if this guy can list all his plans like that and not be a massive red flag?
What's the whole point of internet surveillance if a guy can get away with this?[/QUOTE]
At this point I'm convinced it's for getting dirt to use against political adversaries, because it sure as hell isn't doing much to save lives if something like this slips through.
That, or it's something the agency can hide behind in case they ever need to justify themselves to a governing body. :v:
[QUOTE=AlbertWesker;52334176]At this point I'm convinced it's for getting dirt to use against political adversaries, because it sure as hell isn't doing much to save lives if something like this slips through.
That, or it's something the agency can hide behind in case they ever need to justify themselves to a governing body. :v:[/QUOTE]
Actually I'm afraid this is true, and actually did happend with some Gop Journalists. Not Fox news though.
Huh, we'd just driven past that specific Weis earlier that day..
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;52328950]So what's the point of the NSA then if this guy can list all his plans like that and not be a massive red flag?
What's the whole point of internet surveillance if a guy can get away with this?[/QUOTE]
gotta catch those 18 year old kids slinging weed
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