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[QUOTE]The Mercedes-AMG Project ONE will celebrate its world premiere at the International Motor Show (IAA) in Frankfurt/Main: for the first time, the two-seater supersports show car brings the very latest and efficient, fully-fledged Formula 1 hybrid technology from the race track to the road almost par for par to represent the highlight of AMG’s 50th anniversary. This high-performance hybrid is said to produce over 1,000 PS and reach top speeds beyond 350 km/h. The show car combines outstanding race track performance and day-to-day suitable Formula 1 hybrid technology with exemplary efficiency. This is a world first.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mercedes-benz/vehicles/mercedes-amg-project-one-formula-1-technology-for-the-road/[/url]
it reminds me of CLK-GTR, what do you guys think?
Looks like a copy of McLaren P1
[QUOTE=arleitiss;52677165]Looks like a copy of McLaren P1[/QUOTE]
Reminds me more of the 918.
Way too much actually.
If anything it's closer to a 911 GT1
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The thing is, at this level of required performance, aerodynamic designs will look like many others. Aerodynamic efficiency is key here, not so much following the design trend of the automaker that produces it.
F1 car for the road? Erm.....someone in Stuttgart remind Merc's marketing department what F1 cars look like. This is more street legal LMP1 than F1.
Hope Clarkson gets a hold of it for Grand Tour shenanigans.
[QUOTE=Adeptus;52677233]The thing is, at this level of required performance, aerodynamic designs will look like many others. Aerodynamic efficiency is key here, not so much following the design trend of the automaker that produces it.[/QUOTE]
You can see that it's inspired by sport prototypes, which don't have the problems that open wheelers have in regards to aerodynamics.
It's actually much bigger than a modern prototype, but some lines are similar:
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[QUOTE=TestECull;52677242]F1 car for the road? Erm.....someone in Stuttgart remind Merc's marketing department what F1 cars look like. This is more street legal LMP1 than F1.
Hope Clarkson gets a hold of it for Grand Tour shenanigans.[/QUOTE]
To be fair the engine does appear to be a derated merc f1 engine, since you have to rebuild it ever 30k miles.
[QUOTE=eirexe;52677249]You can see that it's inspired by sport prototypes, which don't have the problems that open wheelers have in regards to aerodynamics.
It's actually much bigger than a modern prototype, but some lines are similar:
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To be fair the engine does appear to be a derated merc f1 engine, since you have to rebuild it ever 30k miles.[/QUOTE]
Yeah no denying they put an F1 powerplant in it. Still, looks more like an LMP car than an F1 car.
Project LMPF1 wpuld have been more accurate.
This is the kind of hybrid technology I can get behind....
The new fad of making super cars hybrids, simply because 3.4 to 60 was too slow and the faction of a second between gear changes was too long to be without power is the fucking best.
[QUOTE=TestECull;52677242]F1 car for the road? Erm.....someone in Stuttgart remind Merc's marketing department what F1 cars look like. This is more street legal LMP1 than F1.
Hope Clarkson gets a hold of it for Grand Tour shenanigans.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, an Ariel Atom looks more like an F1 car than this.
[QUOTE=Leestons;52677868]Yeah, an Ariel Atom looks more like an F1 car than this.[/QUOTE]
Someone get me a performance hybrid Ariel Atom now. I would give my left nut for one.
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It's only a "F1 car for the road" because it shares an F1 engine. Look at 3:05 for the mention.
The most interesting bit is that these current engines are slightly over [I]50%[/I] in thermal efficiency. V8 gen cars were only achieving around 35%.
Although I still will complain/rant about this until a the decision is made, but they (the car industry in general) should start to focus on efficiencies with fuels other than gasoline. Keep the ICE alive, just ween it off gas. Even if we develop 95% thermally efficient gas engines with like 300mpg, gas will eventually run out (some think 40-50yrs, others well over 100) and it will eventually out price itself from being convenient/practical.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;52677877]Someone get me a performance hybrid Ariel Atom now. I would give my left nut for one.[/QUOTE]
The weight of batteries would probably be detrimental to the design but what do I know
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;52677877]Someone get me a performance hybrid Ariel Atom now. I would give my left nut for one.[/QUOTE]
Ariel is doing a fully electric one.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;52678307]The weight of batteries would probably be detrimental to the design but what do I know[/QUOTE]
Well yeah, the Ariel Atom follows Colin Chapman's philosophy of "Adding power makes you faster on the straights. Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere", which means keeping it as simple as possible and carefully balancing the whole car while keeping weight down.
They're not meant to be speed demons on straight lines, rather taking tight curves at high speed without touching the brakes
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