Amazon Go is a "fist" aimed at the convenience store industry - Sensationalist Headlines

[URL]https://www.axios.com/amazon-go-is-a-1516816486-20c5c1c9-d323-4c42-8e11-04aadcb6903e.html[/URL] [QUOTE]Like Amazon's launch into supermarkets last year with its [URL="https://www.forbes.com/sites/ciocentral/2017/06/23/amazon-buys-whole-foods-now-what-the-story-behind-the-story/#1cd7f9c9e898"]buyout of Whole Foods[/URL], its latest commercial salvo, Amazon Go, is potentially big: the U.S. convenience store industry racked up $550 billion in sales in 2016 from 154,535 stores, [URL="http://www.convenience.org/Research/FactSheets/Pages/default.aspx"]according to the Association for Convenience & Fuel Retailing[/URL]. Why it matters: Scott Galloway, author of [I][URL="https://www.amazon.com/Four-Hidden-Amazon-Facebook-Google/dp/0735213658"]The Four[/URL][/I], an examination of Big Tech, says it's another example of Amazon's power. The message to convenience store chains — "A fist of stone from Seattle is coming for them," Galloway tells Axios.[/QUOTE] Here's the interesting part, don't know if it's just a theory or what amazon actually uses [QUOTE][I]"Amazon continues to apply one test to determine where it will venture next: The 1984 test. That is, does the format feel as if you have travelled in time back 30 years? Both grocery and convenience stores are uncomfortably the same, having not innovated in 30 years. Convenience stores have bad lighting/unhealthy food and exploitive pricing — sticking their chin out."[/I][/QUOTE]

Its gonna backfire against chains like Wawa.

I would love a store like this to be honest. Sadly the reality is that this won't come anywhere close to being available in most places nor will it be offering the cheap off-brand stuff other supermarkets do. Then there is extra point of Amazon collecting even more information.

I'm going to be in downtown Seattle today for a doctors appointment, and I'm tempted to check the Amazon Go store out. I hadn't really thought of how this applies to convenience stores, but it makes sense and I wouldn't complain so long as I have access to both better food options and junk food

[QUOTE=Mitsuma;53080852]Then there is extra point of Amazon collecting even more information.[/QUOTE] Thing is, it's pretty hard for them to collect information on you if you're in a B&M shop paying cold hard cash for your items. Which, by law, Amazon Go stores would have to accept.

I've already heard that they have a shoplifting problem. [url]https://youtu.be/7G3Igu0Ix8Y?t=9m23s[/url]

Honestly, Amazon doesn't need a 'convenience store of the future' to take over the convenience store world. Just keep your shit cheap, safe, and clean and you're already beating an absurd number of other stores.

[QUOTE=Glaber;53080961]I've already heard that they have a shoplifting problem. [url]https://youtu.be/7G3Igu0Ix8Y?t=9m23s[/url][/QUOTE] I doubt they care. If anything they expected this to happen.

they better care, other wise that glitch could be exploited. also is that turn style thing the cell phone entrance that was mentioned in the plans for the store?

[QUOTE=Glaber;53081006]they better care, other wise that glitch could be exploited. also is that turn style thing the cell phone entrance that was mentioned in the plans for the store?[/QUOTE] I'm sure they're good. Amazon is a big company and this is one shop. They probably WANT people to shoplift so they can iron out the possibilities in as many ways possible.

[QUOTE=SunsetTable;53080850]Wawa.[/QUOTE] No way Amazon’s getting me that meatball sub [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BO-_c2SCEAI3CSX.jpg[/IMG] mmm

[QUOTE=TestECull;53080941]Which, by law, Amazon Go stores would have to accept.[/QUOTE] If there is a law like that where you live its most likely a ordinance if not a state law as normally stores are not required to take cash, not to mention the amazon go store is brick and mortar and cashless.

[QUOTE=TestECull;53080941]Thing is, it's pretty hard for them to collect information on you if you're in a B&M shop paying cold hard cash for your items. [B]Which, by law, Amazon Go stores would have to accept.[/B][/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12772.htm"]This is outright false.[/URL]

[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;53081055]No way Amazon’s getting me that meatball sub mmm[/QUOTE] They sure as hell are not getting me that coffee too.

[QUOTE=TestECull;53080941]Thing is, it's pretty hard for them to collect information on you if you're in a B&M shop paying cold hard cash for your items. Which, by law, Amazon Go stores would have to accept.[/QUOTE] Not really because the point is that you shop using the app. Even if you pay with cash, they still see everything that you're buying because you're using the app.

[QUOTE=TestECull;53080941]Thing is, it's pretty hard for them to collect information on you if you're in a B&M shop paying cold hard cash for your items. Which, by law, Amazon Go stores would have to accept.[/QUOTE] They literally don't care about you as an individual at all.

[QUOTE=TestECull;53080941]Thing is, it's pretty hard for them to collect information on you if you're in a B&M shop paying cold hard cash for your items. Which, by law, Amazon Go stores would have to accept.[/QUOTE] If you have a device with any of Amazon's services installed, they got your data right there. And in all likelihood, you would, in order to take full advantage of the convenience of the services they offer. I mean, shit, I don't even use cash anymore. I only use it when the place [i]only[/i] takes cash. [QUOTE=Glaber;53080961]I've already heard that they have a shoplifting problem. [url]https://youtu.be/7G3Igu0Ix8Y?t=9m23s[/url][/QUOTE] That was a glitch in their system and not really 'shoplifting problem'. Not really the same thing.

I'm really put off by Amazon swallowing up industries in the way that it does and has done since its inception. It's consumer friendly, sure, but having all of this business consolidated under one company that treats its workers horrendously and cuts corners everywhere to make the margins that it does doesn't sit right with me at all.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;53081551]I'm really put off by Amazon swallowing up industries in the way that it does and has done since its inception. It's consumer friendly, sure, but having all of this business consolidated under one company that treats its workers horrendously and cuts corners everywhere to make the margins that it does doesn't sit right with me at all.[/QUOTE] They haven't really swallowed up any industry except their web services and online retail, and they are currently not the only large competitor in those areas either, they just have a significant market share (although with online retail they are really crushing everyone else if I'm going to be fair). [editline]25th January 2018[/editline] So far they've only recently tried to grow outside this and all it has done is scare the shit out of companies in those industries, we've yet to see if they'll actually change the game like they did online.

[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;53081055]No way Amazon’s getting me that meatball sub mmm[/QUOTE] Not only that but the whole 'stuck in the 80s'. Most modern convience stores, like Wawa, have just finished renovating, creating apps to make orders online and more. The only places stuck in the 80s are in rural areas because they can't afford that shit.

this is actually a fist aimed at the poor, but then amazon has absolutely no idea what its like to run inner city stores and their high permissibility of shrink is going to eat them alive

No, this is aimed to gentrify areas. Retail employees are overwhelmingly poor. By replacing them with automated machines, they're basically cutting off core life lines.

This will happen within the next decade regardless of whether it's Amazon, Walmart, WaWa, etc. Amazon is just the first company to make the move.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;53081639]They haven't really swallowed up any industry except their web services and online retail, and they are currently not the only large competitor in those areas either, they just have a significant market share (although with online retail they are really crushing everyone else if I'm going to be fair). [editline]25th January 2018[/editline] So far they've only recently tried to grow outside this and all it has done is scare the shit out of companies in those industries, we've yet to see if they'll actually change the game like they did online.[/QUOTE] "Online retail" is a huge umbrella though. Stuff like toys, books, and electronics used to have a much larger dedicated retailer presence, online or otherwise.

i like the 80s feel of convenience stores, especially locally owned ones.

[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;53081055]No way Amazon’s getting me that [B]meatball sub [/B] mmm[/QUOTE] this mother fucker knows what's up.

[QUOTE=phygon;53081500]They literally don't care about you as an individual at all.[/QUOTE] They do, though, because by gathering up as much information about me, an individual, as possible they can tailor advertisements and try to get me to buy things I don't want or need. They don't care about my well being, true, but they do care about me, in that they can fine tune their marketing with more info. Which is the case with literally every business out there that sells things. They want as much information on you as they can get so they can adjust their marketing and try to dupe you into buying shit you don't want with money you don't have. [editline]25th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;53081538]If you have a device with any of Amazon's services installed, they got your data right there.[/quote] I don't. They have the bare minimum they need for me to buy shit off their desktop site, which they've needed since they were founded nearly a decade ago. It's a shame they don't take paypal. They'd have even less on file than they already do. [quote] And in all likelihood, you would, in order to take full advantage of the convenience of the services they offer.[/quote] Not really. I wouldn't be shopping at their B&M stores anyway. They don't have anything to offer me that walmart also can't offer. I mean, shit, what's on offer here? A store where employees aren't pestering you, where you're paying dirt cheap prices for doritos and mello yello? Walmart does that just fine, with the added convenience of offering more than just convenience store fare. I can throw a fairly tasty NY Strip, a 12AWG outdoor extension cord, 4 235/75R15 Goodyear Wranglers, a lawn tractor, two boxes of .12ga magnum slugs, a muzzle-loading rifle, a copy of Forza 7, an XBone to play that on, a week's worth of t-shirts and slacks, a new pair of boots, and an oil change into the same transaction right alongside the doritos and mello yello if I'm shopping at at WalMart. Can't do that at Amazon Go.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;53081873]i like the 80s feel of convenience stores, especially locally owned ones.[/QUOTE] When I visited the US, I like how some of them also have the owner's pets in them. I fully appreciate being able to pet a kitty while an elderly lady in bedazzled cats eye glasses rings up my items while a telenovela goes on muted in the background. :v:

That's actually another thing, local chains will be able to weather whatever Amazon can bring. Mom and Pop places, places that actually go back into the economy and generally are healthy for local economies, will die out.

[QUOTE=TestECull;53081974]They do, though, because by gathering up as much information about me, an individual, as possible they can tailor advertisements and try to get me to buy things I don't want or need. They don't care about my well being, true, but they do care about me, in that they can fine tune their marketing with more info. Which is the case with literally every business out there that sells things. They want as much information on you as they can get so they can adjust their marketing and try to dupe you into buying shit you don't want with money you don't have. [editline]25th January 2018[/editline] I don't. They have the bare minimum they need for me to buy shit off their desktop site, which they've needed since they were founded nearly a decade ago. It's a shame they don't take paypal. They'd have even less on file than they already do. Not really. I wouldn't be shopping at their B&M stores anyway. They don't have anything to offer me that walmart also can't offer. I mean, shit, what's on offer here? A store where employees aren't pestering you, where you're paying dirt cheap prices for doritos and mello yello? Walmart does that just fine, with the added convenience of offering more than just convenience store fare. I can throw a fairly tasty NY Strip, a 12AWG outdoor extension cord, 4 235/75R15 Goodyear Wranglers, a lawn tractor, two boxes of .12ga magnum slugs, a muzzle-loading rifle, a copy of Forza 7, an XBone to play that on, a week's worth of t-shirts and slacks, a new pair of boots, and an oil change into the same transaction right alongside the doritos and mello yello if I'm shopping at at WalMart. Can't do that at Amazon Go.[/QUOTE] First of all, they really don't care about you as an individual for these stores. They cannot tailor advertisements inside a physical store with such granularity. They probably would modify stock based off of shopper trends, though. Second of all, if you use the desktop site, you're absolutely being tracked. There's this thing called an "advertiser ID" that unless you're taking the proper precautions to obliterate (you aren't), you're being tracked across more shit than you'd probably care to know.