First Ever Human Head Transplant to be Attempted Next Month - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote]Sergio Canavero claims he can make you immortal, but there’s a small catch. He first wants to chop off your head. If that’s not a deal-breaker, you’ll be happy to hear that the Italian neurosurgeon has announced he will perform the world’s first human head transplant in China sometime in December. (He’s vague on details, possibly for security reasons.) He will remove the head of a patient—an unidentified Chinese national—and attach it to a donor body, origin (and cause of death) unknown. The spinal cord will be fused and the blood vessels and muscles attached. The patient—same head, new body—will be kept in a coma for around a month while he (or she?) heals. Canavero says that if successful, his patient will eventually be able to walk again. If his plan sounds ludicrous, that’s because it is. Nobody knows how to fix a broken human spinal cord, and the scientific evidence that supports Canavero’s approach is highly questionable. Oh, and the ethics of performing an unproven procedure that jeopardizes one (or possibly two) human lives are sketchy, at best. None of that deters Canavero, so hold on to your hats. [/quote] [url]http://www.newsweek.com/head-transplant-surgeon-sergio-canavero-dangerous-maverick-medical-revolution-709332[/url]

I swear I've heard this before. It's finally time.

It's crazy how elaborate the marketing is for MGSV

[QUOTE=Lambeth;52895407]It's crazy how elaborate the marketing is for MGSV[/QUOTE] More like Metal Gear Rising 2 tbh

I remember an article about this guy circulating around here at least two other times. Wasn't the patient a Russian (?) athlete last time this cropped up? I definitely feel like there was someone who was seeing this Dr. Canavero and was painfully open about how he was going to get his head put onto a new body.

I feel like it would be technically possible but getting the person to not be paralyzed from the neck down would be the real challenge.

[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;52895413]I remember an article about this guy circulating around here at least two other times. Wasn't the patient a Russian (?) athlete last time this cropped up? I definitely feel like there was someone who was seeing this Dr. Canavero and was painfully open about how he was going to get his head put onto a new body.[/QUOTE] i thought it was a game developer last time i heard of him

2015 same surgeon [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/22/russian-man-to-undergo-worlds-first-full-head-transplant/[/url]

[QUOTE=AtomicSans;52895410]More like Metal Gear Rising 2 tbh[/QUOTE] More like some recent game. [sp]Wolfenstein 2[/sp]

I remember he did a ted talk a while ago. [video=youtube;_EHCHv5u3O4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EHCHv5u3O4[/video] Now he's actually gonna do it, the absolute madman.

how absurd, he's talking about severing literally the most complex and poorly understood part of the body and reattaching it. if this is feasible how has he not cured all cases of paraplegia and other paralysis? or at least done the transplant on a lab rat or monkey first to prove it works... I'm guessing this is a publicity drive for a book or something?

I mean he kind of looks like Set Roth...

If he's successful in not only keeping him alive, but also allowing him to walk again, it's going to be fucking huge. However, it's incredibly unlikely that this will be the case. There is some significant doubt in his approach and the spinal cord is an incredibly complex thing to mess with. We're not even talking about how the rest of the body would handle this.

Does this mean this will/can be a thing now: [t]http://images.iphone.qualityindex.com/app_screenshots/435997883/us-iphone-4-futurama-head-in-a-jar-creator.jpeg[/t]

-snip- ninja?

[QUOTE=krail9;52895455]how absurd, he's talking about severing literally the most complex and poorly understood part of the body and reattaching it. if this is feasible how has he not cured all cases of paraplegia and other paralysis? or at least done the transplant on a lab rat or monkey first to prove it works... I'm guessing this is a publicity drive for a book or something?[/QUOTE] I'm no head-transplantin doctor, but I'd assume this would be easier to repair and understand because they're doing it in a controlled environment, they know exactly where they're severing nerves on both ends, compared to an accident or disease, if anything this is there best chance at actually doing that.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;52895464]Does this mean this will/can be a thing now: [t]http://images.iphone.qualityindex.com/app_screenshots/435997883/us-iphone-4-futurama-head-in-a-jar-creator.jpeg[/t][/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experiments_in_the_Revival_of_Organisms[/url] It doesn't really keep the brain functioning though, as far as I know.

to be fair even if he is paralyzed but was still living nothing would be different other than the man having a longer life span since he is already paralyzed

[QUOTE=krail9;52895455]how absurd, he's talking about severing literally the most complex and poorly understood part of the body and reattaching it. if this is feasible how has he not cured all cases of paraplegia and other paralysis? or at least done the transplant on a lab rat or monkey first to prove it works... I'm guessing this is a publicity drive for a book or something?[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.newscientist.com/article/2073923-head-transplant-carried-out-on-monkey-claims-maverick-surgeon/[/url] I feel like there's something sketchy about this guy as he keeps popping up in the news. I guess time will tell but I'm not gonna be surprised if this is the last we hear about it until a year down the road when someone posts a thread about the first ever head transplant happening in a month on a Brazilian or something.

[QUOTE=krail9;52895455]how absurd, he's talking about severing literally the most complex and poorly understood part of the body and reattaching it. if this is feasible how has he not cured all cases of paraplegia and other paralysis? or at least done the transplant on a lab rat or monkey first to prove it works... I'm guessing this is a publicity drive for a book or something?[/QUOTE] if the guy getting the transplant fully understands the risks and fully consents i don't see this procedure as a bad thing [editline]15th November 2017[/editline] sometimes it takes someone trying something absolutely nuts for advancements to be made

[QUOTE=krail9;52895455]or at least done the transplant on a lab rat or monkey first to prove it works... [/QUOTE] They did do this though, but the rats didn't live for that long. [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientists-china-full-head-transplant-rats-human-sergio-canavero-cns-neuroscience-therapeutics-a7711871.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;52895488]if the guy getting the transplant fully understands the risks and fully consents i don't see this procedure as a bad thing [editline]15th November 2017[/editline] sometimes it takes someone trying something absolutely nuts for advancements to be made[/QUOTE] Didn't some French scientist decapitate himself in the name of science? And he had someone count how many times he blinked after his head was severed to see if it was instantaneous or not

[QUOTE=TheTalon;52895510]Didn't some French scientist decapitate himself in the name of science? And he had someone count how many times he blinked after his head was severed to see if it was instantaneous or not[/QUOTE] Myth. He never said such a thing or decapitated himself, the original story is that he asked them to do that after his execution during the french revolution. Variations include multiple other Frenchmen having blinked after being executed, so they would see if they actually blinked. (Probably where this stemmed off from.) [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_Lavoisier#Final_days_and_execution"]It's just not true.[/URL] There is nothing to support this ever occurring, most likely made up for those sweet internet points.

[QUOTE=TheTalon;52895510]Didn't some French scientist decapitate himself in the name of science? And he had someone count how many times he blinked after his head was severed to see if it was instantaneous or not[/QUOTE] Pretty sure he was decapitated in the name of executing an enemy of the state but the rest is accurate.

[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;52895413]Wasn't the patient a Russian (?) athlete last time this cropped up? I definitely feel like there was someone who was seeing this Dr. Canavero and was painfully open about how he was going to get his head put onto a new body.[/QUOTE] Last time I read about relevant news - it was Chinese who funded the whole thing the most, in turn they demanded to do the operation in China and on Chinese patient.

[QUOTE=suXin;52895546]Last time I read about relevant news - it was Chinese who funded the whole thing the most, in turn they demanded to do the operation in China and on Chinese patient.[/QUOTE] i guess the one thing about being an authoritarian state with flexible morals is that you can make shit happen that wouldn't be able to happen anywhere else

I'm honestly curious about how this could go down. If he's successful he's legitimately going to revolutionize medicine. If the patient actually recovers past the point of complete paralysis too, it's going to be an interesting as fuck time to see where they can be taken.

I wonder if it will be streamed or something. I'd watch it.

We should take risks to have medicine advance quicker. People are constantly dying to for example, cancer. The longer we look for cures, the more people will die to it. If a terminally ill patient gives informed consent, i dont see what is wrong with going ahead. If anything, it's wrong to not go ahead, as you're not giving that terminally ill patient the chance of survival, and you're letting medicine advance at a slower pace, while cancer claims more victims day after day.

[QUOTE=Str4fe;52895603]We should take risks to have medicine advance quicker. People are constantly dying to for example, cancer. The longer we look for cures, the more people will die to it. If a terminally ill patient gives informed consent, i dont see what is wrong with going ahead. If anything, it's wrong to not go ahead, as you're not giving that terminally ill patient the chance of survival, and you're letting medicine advance at a slower pace, while cancer claims more victims day after day.[/QUOTE] It's kind of a dirty secret that some major medical advancements came from unethical experiments. A lot of knowledge regarding hypothermia and how the human body responds to it comes from Nazi experiments on prisoners, for example. [url]http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199005173222006[/url]