Students left a pineapple in the middle of an exhibition and people mistook it for art - Sensationalist Headlines

[img]https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2017/05/08/08/pineapple.jpg[/img] [quote]Students claim they managed to pass off a pineapple they bought for £1 at a supermarket as a work of art, after leaving it in the middle of an exhibition at their university, Ruairi Gray, a business information technology student at Robert Gordon University in Scotland, and his friend Lloyd Jack, reportedly left the fruit at the Look Again exhibition at RGU's Sir Ian Wood building, hoping that it might be mistaken for art. When they returned four days later he found that the pineapple had been put inside its own glass display case at the event. Gray, 22, told the MailOnline: "I saw an empty art display stand and decided to see how long it would stay there for or if people would believe it was art. "I came in later and it had been put in a glass case - it's the funniest thing that has happened all year. My honours supervisor saw it and asked an art lecturer if it was real because he could not believe it." [...] "It's a bit of a mystery - the glass is pretty heavy and would need two or three people to move it, we have no idea who did it. But it's still there now, we decided to keep it because it's keeping with the playful spirit of this commission."[/quote] [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/pineapple-art-exhibition-scotland-robert-gordon-university-ruairi-gray-lloyd-jack-a7723516.html[/url]

this is why i cannot stand the state of modern art as it is sure you could make an argument for this being actual art while being a parody of modern art but that's the fucking problem

i hate the art community

[QUOTE=lintz;52201564]this is why i cannot stand the state of modern art as it is sure you could make an argument for this being actual art while being a parody of modern art but that's the fucking problem[/QUOTE] lintz. [i]Forum Post[/i]. 8 March, 2017. Electronic Media. Facepunch Museum of Modern Art

If I had the opportunity to pull a prank like that, I'd leave a pain aux raisins in the case and call it "The Pain of Reason". Come to think of it, that could make for an interesting surrealist painting. A pain aux raisins sits on a plate, acting as the shell of a large snail. Behind the table is a scholar, clutching his head trying to figure out why this breakfast pastry has turned into a snail.

I mean hey if it kept out a clay statue of a guy with his thumb stuck up the leftmost crack of his thrice cheeked butt representing the relationship of the proletariat and bourgeois in modern America, I'll take it. Pineapples are the most aesthetic fruit after all.

[QUOTE=lintz;52201564]this is why i cannot stand the state of modern art as it is sure you could make an argument for this being actual art while being a parody of modern art but that's the fucking problem[/QUOTE] [img] https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2014/08/2014-08-01-4chan-ebay-art.jpg[/img]

I bet you he could actually use this as the start of his art portfolio He's already gotten a piece displayed in a museum

[QUOTE=AutismoPiggo;52201572]i hate the art community[/QUOTE] [t]https://i.imgur.com/pdlB9E5.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52201583]lintz. [i]Forum Post[/i]. 8 March, 2017. Electronic Media. Facepunch Museum of Modern Art[/QUOTE] I actually made a Facepunch Museum of Modern Avatars at one point. It can go on exhibit there. [video=youtube;sAOPH14tMGk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAOPH14tMGk[/video]

[QUOTE=lintz;52201564]this is why i cannot stand the state of modern art as it is sure you could make an argument for this being actual art while being a parody of modern art but that's the fucking problem[/QUOTE] What about the "Fountain" by Duchamp? That's 100 years ago when art started that change

I love this. Reminds me of this: [img]http://68.media.tumblr.com/e9cd7336d00dbc6da154586a5d283bbc/tumblr_nhzhpbpm9E1smegd6o1_500.png[/img]

Is this an ARG for the Psych movie that's supposedly in production?

Tbh it's understandable considering it was in a case, when you're in an art gallery you don't usually question whether art in the cases is supposed to be there. Also it depends on the other kinds of art around it. I never really get the hate of this kind of art tbh

[QUOTE=SIRIUS;52201716]Tbh it's understandable considering it was in a case, when you're in an art gallery you don't usually question whether art in the cases is supposed to be there. Also it depends on the other kinds of art around it. I never really get the hate of this kind of art tbh[/QUOTE] Pretty sure they left it in the exhibit, then someone from the exhibit came along and placed it in a case, assuming it was art.

Some art is incidental and there is nothing wrong with that. If some art curator came along, saw this pineapple, and then put a case over it to merit it as an artistic piece, then so be it.

200% ~Aesthetic

[QUOTE=AutismoPiggo;52201572]i hate the art community[/QUOTE]Hoo boy, I'm doing a computer graphics course right now and every Wednesday we have to have an art history lesson with a bunch of random people outside our class (I have no idea why, it has literally nothing to do with the rest of what we do) We were taught about some woman here in Sweden who faked a psychological breakdown in the streets, wasting the time of police and medical personnel that could've been used elsewhere. She got a petty fine and a reduced sentence because [QUOTE]the courts thought she had no criminal intent in her actions.[/QUOTE] Remember, you can commit any crime and it's a-ok as long as it's ~ a r t ~ I'm getting all fired up just thinking about it. Of course all art isn't bad but when you're being pretentious for the sake of being pretentious and endangering people's lives in the process, you deserve no respect whatsoever.

[QUOTE=Revenge282;52201732]Pretty sure they left it in the exhibit, then someone from the exhibit came along and placed it in a case, assuming it was art.[/QUOTE] That's not that much worse depending on the variety around it

I say install it as an actual peice.

Personally, i dont like like art that took 5 seconds to make. I dont care if its classical or modern style or whatever, if it took considerable effort to create, I respect that. But if you simply sneeze on a canvas and call it a day, screw you for giving artists a bad reputation. Case in point, there was an art competition when i was in high school, and my friend worked really hard on a cool drawing for it. He placed second to a guy who submitted a blank piece of paper, because it was "symbolic"

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52201764]I say install it as an actual peice.[/QUOTE] At best it could a be a temporary piece with new iterations every once in a while after is left to rot for a while.

[QUOTE=SIRIUS;52201716]Tbh it's understandable considering it was in a case, when you're in an art gallery you don't usually question whether art in the cases is supposed to be there. Also it depends on the other kinds of art around it. I never really get the hate of this kind of art tbh[/QUOTE] I'm not a fan of this kind of 'modern' art because there is usually zero rationality behind what the art is and what it's suppose to represent. The artist can just get a brick, place it in a glass case and declare it representative of minority struggles in Europe or whatever, on top of having zero skill in creating the item. Placing random objects together shouldn't be considered art, especially when what its representing is so abstract from what the objects actually are. That's just clutter made by someone uncreative.

[QUOTE=Flubbman;52201761]Hoo boy, I'm doing a computer graphics course right now and every Wednesday we have to have an art history lesson with a bunch of random people outside our class (I have no idea why, it has literally nothing to do with the rest of what we do) We were taught about some woman here in Sweden who faked a psychological breakdown in the streets, wasting the time of police and medical personnel that could've been used elsewhere. She got a reduced sentence because Remember, you can do anything and it's a-ok as long as you say it's art! I'm getting all fired up just thinking about it. Of course all art isn't bad but when you're being pretentious for the sake of being pretentious and endangering others in the process, you deserve no respect.[/QUOTE] Which is why she was punished, but like they said there was no criminal intent so it was reduced

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52201769]I'm not a fan of this kind of 'modern' art because there is usually zero rationality behind what the art is and what it's suppose to represent. The artist can just get a brick, place it in a glass case and declare it representative of minority struggles in Europe or whatever, on top of having zero skill in creating the item. Placing random objects together shouldn't be considered art, especially when what its representing is so abstract from what the objects actually are. That's just clutter made by someone uncreative.[/QUOTE] Except there is a rationale behind what art is, even if it's made entirely of found objects. Craftsmanship of an item is an artform, but so is an understanding of how to convey ideas in terms of composition, objects, and location. If we take the aforementioned brick example, if it was a brick from an IRA bombing or the like it would have new context in an art museum. On top of that, it would have a plaque describing the object and the significance of it.

[QUOTE=Flubbman;52201761]Hoo boy, I'm doing a computer graphics course right now and every Wednesday we have to have an art history lesson with a bunch of random people outside our class (I have no idea why, it has literally nothing to do with the rest of what we do) We were taught about some woman here in Sweden who faked a psychological breakdown in the streets, wasting the time of police and medical personnel that could've been used elsewhere. She got a reduced sentence because Remember, you can do anything and it's a-ok as long as you say it's art! I'm getting all fired up just thinking about it. Of course all art isn't bad but when you're being pretentious for the sake of being pretentious and endangering others in the process, you deserve no respect.[/QUOTE] I'm all about breaking normal art conventions but yeah if you're gonna do silly shit like this, I'm not really on board. There's a level of breaking the law or being a public nuisance that is at least not DANGEROUS like the practice of street art and tasteful graffiti which I think is alright as long as it's public property and not private, but like - I remember seeing a video of some chick literally just urinating into a can of spaghettios or something and there were like 30+ people gathered around in this exhibit just watching her do it like it was just another performance piece. Like that's... Unsanitary. And gross. And whatever your intent or meaning is kind of doesn't matter once you start ignoring basic sanitary practices and bare minimum social conventions like... don't urinate into a can in the middle of a room. Anyway. Beyond those kind of things, using silly shit like a pineapple and calling it art is super entertaining and I'm all about that.

He strikes again, the Pineapple Stalker Man! [T]http://i.imgur.com/rfCw5eh.png[/T]

[QUOTE=SIRIUS;52201772]Which is why she was punished, but like they said there was no criminal intent so it was reduced[/QUOTE]By that logic I could go rob a store right now, say I was doing it to send a message about capitalism or whatever, and get off nearly scot-free and praised by the """art community""" for being bold and that's objectively wrong

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52201769]I'm not a fan of this kind of 'modern' art because there is usually zero rationality behind what the art is and what it's suppose to represent. The artist can just get a brick, place it in a glass case and declare it representative of minority struggles in Europe or whatever, on top of having zero skill in creating the item. Placing random objects together shouldn't be considered art, especially when what its representing is so abstract from what the objects actually are. That's just clutter made by someone uncreative.[/QUOTE] Ary doesn't mean you have to like it. It also doesn't mean it requires any type of physical skill to create and what it represents is up to the audience and the creator. Art to me is totally free of rules like this, if it says something to you then that's cool, if it doesn't move on

[QUOTE=Fish_poke;52201781]Except there is a rationale behind what art is, even if it's made entirely of found objects. Craftsmanship of an item is an artform, but so is an understanding of how to convey ideas in terms of composition, objects, and location. If we take the aforementioned brick example, if it was a brick from an IRA bombing or the like it would have new context in an art museum. On top of that, it would have a plaque describing the object and the significance of it.[/QUOTE] If you need a plaque or a curator to explain what the art represents, then it's poor art in my opinion. Either the piece is clear to the audience or it's trash. And I'm not talking about "some people may get it, some may not". The brick, for example, if left without any plaque leaves zero context to what it represents entirely.