Investigation launched after Idaho science teacher allegedly feeds puppy to snapping turtle - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote] A junior high school teacher is under investigation after he fed a puppy to a snapping turtle in front of students, according to a law enforcement source familiar with the situation. Robert Crosland has taught science at Preston Junior High School for years. In a news release, Preston School District 201 Superintendent Marc Gee says his administration became aware of “a regrettable circumstance involving some of the biological specimens” on March 7. “The event occurred well after students had been dismissed and was not a part of any school-directed program,” Gee said in a news release. “We emphasize that at no time was the safety of students or staff compromised.” It’s unclear if the dog was alive or dead when Crosland fed it to the turtle and although it happened after school hours, some students did witness the feeding. Administrators began investigating the incident immediately, according to Gee, and the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office was contacted. Crosland has not been cited or charged and has not been placed on leave, Gee said. “A part of any investigation includes determining the best course of action once the facts of the matter have been ascertained. This is not a situation that is easy, nor do we feel it is a measure that can be taken lightly,” Gee said. Crosland is a popular teacher who has exotic snakes and other animals in tanks around his classroom, according to multiple parents and students who contacted EastIdahoNews.com. Three former students, who asked not to be named, said they recall Crosland feeding guinea pigs to snakes and snapping turtles during classroom demonstrations. Gee says the district is taking steps to ensure “this type of action could not be repeated” and asked for patience while the investigation commences.[/quote] [url=https://www.eastidahonews.com/2018/03/investigation-underway-after-science-teacher-feeds-dog-to-turtle-in-front-of-students/]East Idaho News[/url]

What the fuck.

I pray that this poor dog wasn't alive because that's an [B][I][U]AWFUL[/U][/I][/B] way to go. Regardless, I hope he gets charged with animal cruelty and fired as a result. This isn't even a normal part of a snapping turtles diet why the fuck did he do it to begin with.

[quote]Crosland is a popular teacher who has exotic snakes and other animals in tanks around his classroom, according to multiple parents and students who contacted EastIdahoNews.com. Three former students, who asked not to be named, said they recall Crosland feeding [b]guinea pigs to snakes and snapping turtles[/b] during classroom demonstrations.[/quote] This guy is a fucking nutcase.

Guinea pigs are a common enough feeder stock tho, like mice and rabbits Heck they were domesticated for eating

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;53198126]This guy is a fucking nutcase.[/QUOTE] Meh, feeding a guinea pig to a snake is no different than feeding it a rat.

Dogs aren't fodder, when the fuck will the world learn this

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;53198126]This guy is a fucking nutcase.[/QUOTE] He may be a nutcase but I really don't see how this makes him crazy. He is a biology teacher... My biology teacher's room was full of snakes and turtles also. The animals have to eat and feeding them guinea pigs is no different then feeding them any other rodent. They may be fluffy but they are eaten in many parts of the world as a delicacy. I also don't see how feeding his snakes in front of his students would make him a nutcase either as this is one of those things that happens in nature. God forbid if someone has to watch a snake eat.

Don't try to stand in the way of progress people, those puppies were crushed under the unstoppable, ever-marching boot of science. [Sp]joke[/sp]

Welp, I'll have to kill extra snapping turtles this summer for retribution. Nothing tastes better than snapping turtle soup.

As long as it was not live feeding, I see no problem with it.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;53198126]This guy is a fucking nutcase.[/QUOTE] He should be barred from teaching children or handling animals, permanently.

[QUOTE=Tampong;53198209]As long as it was not live feeding, I see no problem with it.[/QUOTE] Watch the video in the news article, witnesses said they could hear the puppy crying from across campus. Apparently the puppy was sick too. I do not think feeding a puppy to a snapping turtle is humane. It would be like feeding your dog a cat in my eyes. Only reason I say that is because puppies are not really animals bred for food.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;53198235]"Taking steps to ensure this doesn't happen again" Seriously? "but think of the children" strikes again, how dare our children learn about how certain animals feed.[/QUOTE] I feel like there's much better animals to use this on than puppies. Like, you know, all of the usual feeder stock that's normally used for reptiles.

[QUOTE=bigdandyd;53198164]He may be a nutcase but I really don't see how this makes him crazy. He is a biology teacher... My biology teacher's room was full of snakes and turtles also. The animals have to eat and feeding them guinea pigs is no different then feeding them any other rodent. They may be fluffy but they are eaten in many parts of the world as a delicacy. I also don't see how feeding his snakes in front of his students would make him a nutcase either as this is one of those things that happens in nature. God forbid if someone has to watch a snake eat.[/QUOTE] Watching a snapping turtle eat anything more "advanced" than a fish or an insect is metal as hell, not gonna lie. And of course by "metal" I mean "oh god :sick:" for most folks.

This is like that fucking idiot who fed a kitten to his pet snake for christmas and then posted the video online to shock everyone. No, a puppy nor a guinea pig is not [I]the natural[/I] part of a snapping turtles diet. Fish, planet life, small insects and other such creatures are what snapping turtles actually eat.

[QUOTE=MR-X;53198341]Watch the video in the news article, witnesses said they could hear the puppy crying from across campus. Apparently the puppy was sick too. I do not think feeding a puppy to a snapping turtle is humane. It would be like feeding your dog a cat in my eyes. Only reason I say that is because puppies are not really animals bred for food.[/QUOTE] *in the West

There is no demonstration beyond giving the fucking teacher a power boner.

Guinea pigs are fine for snakes and some other carnivorous reptiles. They are already fully grown and were purpose bred as food for humans. A puppy is not a fully grown dog, and is not bred as a stock animal. Yes it seems arbitrary but welcome to being the dominant life form, you’re allowed to be.

[QUOTE=Tampong;53198209]As long as it was not live feeding, I see no problem with it.[/QUOTE] Dogs are not sold as feeders in the US as far as I'm aware, he had to have gotten it from someone. [QUOTE=MR-X;53198341]Watch the video in the news article, witnesses said they could hear the puppy crying from across campus. Apparently the puppy was sick too.[/QUOTE] Animal Cruelty charges right fucking now

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;53198372]*in the West[/QUOTE] Yes, I get the point you are trying to make. But, what does it have to do with the current topic? We are not in any other country. Other countries allow child marriage, is that suddenly okay because other countries do it? We gonna annotate *not in the west for every subject? Just because other countries do things does not mean I have to respect it or even tolerate it happening in the U.S. Puppies are not utilized for food, nor are they used as live feed. It is pretty concerning a bioteacher decided to feed a live puppy to a snapping turtle in front of a group of students.

I've seen how snapping turtles eat, it isn't pretty. Also it is the first time I've read that they can feed snakes with guinea pigs, I tought mices or rats were the go to for food for these animals.

[QUOTE=Lok's;53198402]I've seen how snapping turtles eat, it isn't pretty. Also it is the first time I've read that they can feed snakes with guinea pigs, I tought mices or rats were the go to for food for these animals.[/QUOTE] Depends on the size of the snake. You aren’t supposed to use live food for captive snakes most of the time because if they aren’t hungry, the prey can actually fight back and harm the snake. Plus there’s a possibility of making it aggressive and seeing a human as a threat.

I've seen professionals feed snapping turtles with dead chicks, but definitely nothing like a puppy... That seems excessive. I would be less bothered too if the puppy was already dead, but it sounds like it was a live feeding which is definitely inhumane to do with a turtle that probably could be fed with a lot of other more humane options.

[QUOTE=Pascall;53198410]I've seen professionals feed snapping turtles with dead chicks, but definitely nothing like a puppy... That seems excessive. I would be less bothered too if the puppy was already dead, but it sounds like it was a live feeding which is definitely inhumane to do with a turtle that probably could be fed with a lot of other more humane options.[/QUOTE] This is my only issue.

[QUOTE=Tampong;53198209]As long as it was not live feeding, I see no problem with it.[/QUOTE] Thing is, in most of the western world dogs (and puppies) are considered good companion animals, never used as food for carnivorous reptiles like small rodents or chicks. It's pretty natural for people to get upset about this, not matter whether it was dead or alive. Dogs evolved alongside us, it's no surprise that people got pissed. There were probably much easier and more appropriate feeding options for it that wouldn't have elicited the same reaction (or at least not as much). It just sounds like the guy was trying to cause issues or feed his ego to be honest.

I'm just gonna throw this out there. If the animal in question had a been a rat this wouldn't be news. I often hear the excuse that some animals are bred to be eaten by reptiles but that doesn't negate suffering.

I seen a video of one of these things eating a live rat and it was honestly just terrible. I used to own gerbils/hamsters so any type of live feeding like that makes me abit ill, I couldn't even feed live insects to lizards or something. The whole "No chance of escape" thing doesn't sit well with me. Just because an animal might rip another one apart in the wild doesn't justify throwing one into a closed off cage and watching it get ripped apart, he should of stuck with those dead mice that come pre-packaged.

[QUOTE=Weirdness;53198501]Thing is, in most of the western world dogs (and puppies) are considered good companion animals, never used as food for carnivorous reptiles like small rodents or chicks. It's pretty natural for people to get upset about this, not matter whether it was dead or alive.[/QUOTE] You're basically saying it's wrong to use a dog as a feed animal because it's against cultural norms. That may explain why people get upset, but it doesn't make it morally wrong. I'm not saying that to justify what, from the story, sounds inhumane and unnecessary regardless of the feed animal used- but getting mad about dogs being treated like other animals always strikes me as completely arbitrary. It's not like a rodent is any less capable of suffering or feeling pain than a puppy.

[QUOTE=catbarf;53198662]You're basically saying it's wrong to use a dog as a feed animal because it's against cultural norms. That may explain why people get upset, but it doesn't make it morally wrong. I'm not saying that to justify what, from the story, sounds inhumane and unnecessary regardless of the feed animal used- but getting mad about dogs being treated like other animals always strikes me as completely arbitrary. It's not like a rodent is any less capable of suffering or feeling pain than a puppy.[/QUOTE] At that point you're more arguing that morals should [I]never[/I] be considered. Morals ARE cultural norms, there are very few constants throughout all cultures. In some cultures murdering outsiders is perfectly acceptable. If you try to divorce morals from cultures then you get rid of morals altogether.