YouTube Video containing 10 hours of white noise receives 5 copyright complaints - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE] [IMG]https://torrentfreak.com/images/DSuj8LKVoAAhdP1.jpg[/IMG] A music technologist who teaches in an Australian university music department has seen his self-generated ten-hour video containing white noise flagged by several copyright holders. Sebastian Tomczak informs TorrentFreak that all of the rightsholders chose to monetize his work, meaning that they're making money from his efforts, rather than him. “The white noise video was part of a number of videos I put online at the time. I was interested in listening to continuous sounds of various types, and how our perception of these kinds of sounds and our attention changes over longer periods – e.g. distracted, focused, sleeping, waking, working etc,” Tomczak says. “I ‘created’ and uploaded the video in question. The video was created by generating a noise waveform of 10 hours length using the freeware software Audacity and the built-in noise generator. The resulting 10-hour audio file was then imported into ScreenFlow, where the text was added and then rendered as one 10-hour video file,” he explains. This morning, however, Tomczak received a complaint from YouTube after a copyright holder claimed that it had the rights to his composition. When he checked his YouTube account, yet more complaints greeted him. In fact, since July 2015, when the video was first uploaded, a total of five copyright complaints had been filed against Tomczak’s composition. [/QUOTE] Source: [URL="https://torrentfreak.com/musicians-white-noise-youtube-video-hit-with-copyright-complaints-180105/"]TorrentFreak[/URL]

Youtube probably won't do jack shit about it.

[media]https://twitter.com/bfod/status/948025351954976768[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/bfod/status/948025608411508736[/media] Youtube's content ID system is a fucking dumpster fire. It's safer to use copyrighted video game music in your videos than it is to use ANYTHING from the public domain. That is messed up, and like most problems with Youtube, it will never be fixed, because Youtube does not give a single shit about their creators. By the way, the same system will get your Twitch VOD muted if you play a game like Getting Over It or The Witness which has public domain music in it.

What a shitty system. Thanks Viacom for being the start of all of this.

[QUOTE=Destroyox;53030469]What a shitty system. Thanks Viacom for being the start of all of this.[/QUOTE] I mean it used to be that your videos got muted or taken down, and Youtube has actually made it so that money earned on the video gets stored until contesting the claim goes through. They made honest to God efforts to fix this somewhat which is much more than I can say for the demonetization fiasco. Honestly I can't think of a way Youtube can realistically solve this problem any further. I don't really have a problem with the state it's in at this point, Youtube has done everything they can do. They don't have the legal power to fight all the companies that are doing this stupid bullshit. The only thing I can think of is remove the ability of content owners to put a strike on your channel so you can safely contest more than one video at once. Demonetization is what content creators need to focus their ire on.

I wonder if I can just claim copywrite the "Paulers'" youtube videos and just live off that :v:

nearly a decade a ago, when I was still in middle school, I made a terrible youtube poop esque video with windows movie maker. I shared it with my friends, and got a total of 8 views on that video that day. then 8 years later, when I am well in college and have long since forgotten about the video I made, I get an email saying that I received a copy right strike for using someones music. the video was mute, I didnt know how to manage sounds settings back then. the video still had 8 views.

Machine learning is a black box that shouldn't be treated as the holy grail of artificial intelligence, yet we have big tech pushing them to places where they are unchecked and given to rule over everything. This reminds me, theres a company trying to build a self driving car using a neural net technique instead, hope it knows the difference between a road and a toaster which googles own image recognition software can't apparently do

[QUOTE=da space core;53030519]nearly a decade a ago, when I was still in middle school, I made a terrible youtube poop esque video with windows movie maker. I shared it with my friends, and got a total of 8 views on that video that day. then 8 years later, when I am well in college and have long since forgotten about the video I made, I get an email saying that I received a copy right strike for using someones music. the video was mute, I didnt know how to manage sounds settings back then. the video still had 8 views.[/QUOTE] I made a video in like 2006 with my friend and pretty much me and him only saw it. It had Gnarls Barkley - Smiley Faces in it. A few years ago it got a copyright strike and got muted. I copypasted Fair use law into the appeal, forgot about it and checked it just now. The music's back. :v:

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK8i6aMG9VM[/media] Youtube is severely broken.

Why hasn't anyone come up with a better youtube alternative with the amount of shit they put up? I know its not going to be easy.

[QUOTE=Ignhelper;53030570]Why hasn't anyone come up with a better youtube alternative with the amount of shit they put up? I know its not going to be easy.[/QUOTE] Well, part of it I think is going to be simply managing things. I mean, you're probably going to need a server farm the size of Germany just to be able to host all the videos, imagine all the copyright bullshit that will happen from simply having that many videos. The only feasible way to successfully police all of that content would be to create a massive network of either tens of thousands of people combing through everything on a daily basis, or to implement an automated machine-learning system with zero oversight at all in order to- Fuck. We're back where we started. [editline] January 6th [/editline] In all seriousness, this IS the problem, really. The logistics in both data storage and copyright is something that a titan like Google is apparently struggling with. I can't imagine any company at all being able to handle the strain of either, let alone both at once.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;53030458][media]https://twitter.com/bfod/status/948025351954976768[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/bfod/status/948025608411508736[/media] Youtube's content ID system is a fucking dumpster fire. It's safer to use copyrighted video game music in your videos than it is to use ANYTHING from the public domain. That is messed up, and like most problems with Youtube, it will never be fixed, because Youtube does not give a single shit about their creators. By the way, the same system will get your Twitch VOD muted if you play a game like Getting Over It or The Witness which has public domain music in it.[/QUOTE] woah shit wasn't expecting you to be on facepunch

[QUOTE=Sableye;53030552]Machine learning is a black box that shouldn't be treated as the holy grail of artificial intelligence, yet we have big tech pushing them to places where they are unchecked and given to rule over everything. This reminds me, theres a company trying to build a self driving car using a neural net technique instead, hope it knows the difference between a road and a toaster which googles own image recognition software can't apparently do[/QUOTE] This has nothing to do with machine learning and everything to do with the system being given input it shouldn't be. Training a system to differentiate recordings of white noise is ridiculous because it's all sourced the same way. Those recordings shouldn't have been uploaded in the first place. It's the same thing with Helix's copyright issue. The system did its job, it's just it was given bad input. More times than not (at least with the current iteration), it's the system failing due to somebody marking something they shouldn't, rather than the system not doing its job.

[QUOTE=da space core;53030519]nearly a decade a ago, when I was still in middle school, I made a terrible youtube poop esque video with windows movie maker. I shared it with my friends, and got a total of 8 views on that video that day. then 8 years later, when I am well in college and have long since forgotten about the video I made, I get an email saying that I received a copy right strike for using someones music. the video was mute, I didnt know how to manage sounds settings back then. the video still had 8 views.[/QUOTE] I had a video where a picture of the Secretary of State for Illinois just grows with “call on me” in the background. It got taken down late last year but the video was uploaded in 2014

[QUOTE=E = MC Hammer;53030619]woah shit wasn't expecting you to be on facepunch[/QUOTE] Is he anywhere else??

[QUOTE=E = MC Hammer;53030619]woah shit wasn't expecting you to be on facepunch[/QUOTE] We have a ton of youtubers on facepunch. They are so special, most them get to be part of the red user group! On topic though, pretty much the only groups that could have the resources to legitimately threaten youtube would be Microsoft and Amazon

[QUOTE=da space core;53030519]nearly a decade a ago, when I was still in middle school, I made a terrible youtube poop esque video with windows movie maker. I shared it with my friends, and got a total of 8 views on that video that day. then 8 years later, when I am well in college and have long since forgotten about the video I made, I get an email saying that I received a copy right strike for using someones music. the video was mute, I didnt know how to manage sounds settings back then. the video still had 8 views.[/QUOTE] Around 2007 I installed like a hundred custom characters in MUGEN and liked to just pick Random and see what happened. One time I got Pingu vs Pingu in Megaman's lava man stage, I thought it was the funniest thing so I paused and recorded the match with Unregistered Hypercam 2 and uploaded it to YouTube. Years later I got a copyright claim for supposedly uploading an episode of Pingu. I guess the same NOOT NOOT sample repeated over and over again on Megaman music must sound pretty similar to a real episode of Pingu.

Yeah, I recognize the noise at 3:27:32. Definitely heard that somewhere else before.

[QUOTE=Ignhelper;53030570]Why hasn't anyone come up with a better youtube alternative with the amount of shit they put up? I know its not going to be easy.[/QUOTE] Many have tried, but it really just isnt feasible and all things considered Youtube is pretty extraordinary. For it's gargantuan size I think it works pretty damn well, and its user interface and experience is probably the best out of any video hosting site I've used over the years. That, and competition isn't really a viable thing in certain aspects of the internet. The internet in all of its net-neutral empowerment is great if you have a unique niche carved out or something that nowhere else can provide, but when it comes to doing something similar/the same to an already existing function there isn't much hope. Companies have gotten very, very good at breeding loyalty through integrated functionality networks, offering unique benefits that only they can hope to afford, and in cases like Youtube and Twitch, hosting a massive userbase thats interdependent on each other staying in one place. It's not like opening up a chicken joint across the street from another chain and just making chicken better than they do. It takes very little investment for someone to walk to your place over theirs. Its typically a massive headache and pain to go to a comparable video hosting site because in terms of user experience, video hosting sites *are* the videos that they host. For content creators, it's career suicide to go to a website that no one else use uses, and for content consumers, there's no reason to go to a website that doesn't have any of your favorite content creators. It's a symbiotic chain not just between producer and consumer, but between producers and producers and consumers and consumers as well. Everyone benefits from being in one place.

[QUOTE=Ignhelper;53030570]Why hasn't anyone come up with a better youtube alternative with the amount of shit they put up? I know its not going to be easy.[/QUOTE] You explained exactly why one doesn't exist. Youtube has a literal monopoly on raw video sharing. Nobody else can offer revenue and viewership on the same level, and even if others who can afford it tried, they would have to take on an entire legal system that even youtube struggles to do (take OP for example) IIRC google barely even breaks even from youtube revenue. It costs that much to upkeep. So good luck to anyone who doesn't have google's bottomless pocket to grab from in case of an emergency.

You can own white noise? What an age we live in.

This IP shit has to fucking stop, this is too far.

We just need Pornhub to make a better YouTube tbh

[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;53031165]We just need Pornhub to make a better YouTube tbh[/QUOTE] brb registering youhub.com

This shit is probably going to keep going until either Google folds, they shut down Youtube, or they get a sentient AGI to fix it.

How can they detect this stuff but not my joke channel that automatically uploads autogenerated Nightcore remixes periodically?

[QUOTE=Harbie;53031552]How can they detect this stuff but not my joke channel that automatically uploads autogenerated Nightcore remixes periodically?[/QUOTE] link please

It's not like Google corp. is gonna do something. They would need to care about their customers to listen to feedback.

[QUOTE=Nihilnoid;53040131]link please[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9xmnWmC88tBFnYPVdHg2EQ[/url] I need to rewrite it. The SSD the spaghetti script I wrote to do this died. I had it to where I could just fill a folder up with mp3s and then it would scrape Reddit for anime wallpapers, speed the audio up, create a video, then upload it to YT automatically using their API.