Marvel's editor-in-chief C.B. Cebulski confesses to writing under alias "Akira Yoshida" - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote]Akira Yoshida was the name of a comic book writer who worked for Dreamwave, Dark Horse, and Marvel Comics 13 years ago. He was a Japanese writer who in interviews told us that he worked for manga publishers, went to US comic conventions, befriended the likes of Pat Lee, and started working in American comics as a result. He would eventually write a series of high-profile Marvel miniseries — 12 issues of Thor: Son Of Asgard, six issues of X-Men: Age of Apocalypse, five of Elektra: The Hand, five of Wolverine: Soultaker, five of X-Men: Kitty Pryde – Shadow & Flame, five of X-Men/Fantastic Four, and a bunch of one-shots — before, suddenly stopping.[/quote] [url]https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/11/28/marvel-eic-c-b-cebulski-akira-yoshida/[/url] [quote]The con began when Cebulski needed to establish a writing career while still at Marvel. He started out with smaller gigs like writing “Conan and the Demons of Khitai” for Dark Horse Comics and then got noticed and hired by another Marvel editor. [b]Doing so violated Marvel’s ethics policy against letting editors write or draw comic books but by using the name Yoshida, Cebulski was able to skirt this rule while seemingly adding a layer of authenticity to telling Japanese-influenced stories. Marvel even boasted of this appearance of diversity, saying that it was uncommon for a non-Anglophone writer to succeed in the US.[/b][/quote] [url]https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/28/16712564/marvel-editor-in-chief-akira-yoshida-controversy[/url]

[quote]Marvel even boasted of this appearance of diversity, saying that it was uncommon for a non-Anglophone writer to succeed in the US.[/quote] [quote]A 2015 post by Brian Cronin debunking Marvel urban legends found that several editors had never spoken with Yoshida before, which suggested that the rumor was true, but Marvel editor Mike Marts then claimed that he had lunch with Yoshida who showed him a Godzilla memorabilia collection. That man was a visiting Japanese translator and not the fictional Yoshida, according to Johnston, which leads us to the troubling fact that the editors couldn’t tell the difference.[/quote] oh god lol this is too much

Sheesh, is it really that hard for them to just, y'know, hire a Japanese writer? I'm sure there are plenty who'd be stoked to get work like this.

So, they created artificial diversity plagued with stereotypes so that they could make a tagline about how cool people they are. And hid it within the company because the way it conspired was against policy, and yet fabricated an entire tall tale about an illusory Japanese writer to the point of falsely claimed interviews and spread misinformation [i]amongst their own workers[/i], all for the sake of publicity. It doesn't really bear repeating in recent memory for obvious reasons, but still, fuck Marvel Comics and (most of) the people that work there.

[quote]A 2015 post by Brian Cronin debunking Marvel urban legends found that several editors had never spoken with Yoshida before, which suggested that the rumor was true, but Marvel editor Mike Marts then claimed that he had lunch with Yoshida who showed him a Godzilla memorabilia collection. That man was a visiting Japanese translator and not the fictional Yoshida, according to Johnston, which leads us to the troubling fact that the editors couldn’t tell the difference.[/quote] Don't be silly Patrick, we had lunch with Akira Yoshida at Dorcia last week. Paul Allen was there too!

Man, Marvel Comics is such a shitshow at the moment what the fuck.

The most ironic part is "CB Cebulski" is also a Deadpool character, a hacker whom works under ridiculous assumed names often based on cartoon characters and anime heroes to get Deadpool information. That said [quote]wrote about Japan and created Japanese characters, locations, and themes that, if it had been Cebulski, would be [B]PROBLEMATIC[/B] [/quote] I just love this blatant holier than thou editorializing, that completely ignores what comics were about at the time in favor of current imaginary progressive stances, especially about a guy who actually A lived (and still has a house) in Japan, and B regularly edited manga books. This is especially hilarious considering without the western market propping it up, Japanese manga would be all but dead right now, and the article itself was totally fine with "Akira" writing Conan aka western fantasy developed in West Texas. What a crock.

[QUOTE=RikohZX;52931804]So, they created artificial diversity plagued with stereotypes so that they could make a tagline about how cool people they are. And hid it within the company because the way it conspired was against policy, and yet fabricated an entire tall tale about an illusory Japanese writer to the point of falsely claimed interviews and spread misinformation [i]amongst their own workers[/i], all for the sake of publicity. It doesn't really bear repeating in recent memory for obvious reasons, but still, fuck Marvel Comics and (most of) the people that work there.[/QUOTE] Marvel had nothing to do with creating it. Cebulski was writing under the Akira pseudonym for Dark Horse before being approached and hired by Marvel. [editline]29th November 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=27X;52932037] I just love this blatant holier than thou editorializing, that completely ignores what comics were about at the time in favor of current imaginary progressive stances, especially about a guy who actually A lived (and still has a house) in Japan, and B regularly edited manga books. This is especially hilarious considering without the western market propping it up, Japanese manga would be all but dead right now.[/QUOTE] I couldn't tell if the article editorialized the issue or if people have a genuine issue with non-Japanese people writing in a Japanese setting.

[QUOTE=27X;52932037]This is especially hilarious considering without the western market propping it up, Japanese manga would be all but dead right now[/QUOTE] huh?

[QUOTE=27X;52932037] without the western market propping it up, Japanese manga would be all but dead right now[/QUOTE] this is like the polar opposite of the truth :v

-snip who cares-

[QUOTE=Cyanlime;52931798]Sheesh, is it really that hard for them to just, y'know, hire a Japanese writer? I'm sure there are plenty who'd be stoked to get work like this.[/QUOTE] ya its like japan has no industry that could build the kind of talent that marvel might want

[QUOTE=27X;52932037]This is especially hilarious considering without the western market propping it up, Japanese manga would be all but dead right now[/QUOTE] I feel like 50% of your posts are highly researched, good information while the other half is spewing whatever comes out of your ass

So when are people going to be upset about David Wong? Really this is a big nontraversy.

the most offensive thing here is that artwork those fingers are like salad tongs

[QUOTE=DuCT;52932644]So when are people going to be upset about David Wong? Really this is a big nontraversy.[/QUOTE] the issue i find with this is that a guy pretended to be japanese and wrote about the most mundane shit that passes off as "japanese culture" and marvel praised it as diversity. and then they saw fit to make him the new eic.

[QUOTE=DuCT;52932644]So when are people going to be upset about David Wong? Really this is a big nontraversy.[/QUOTE] ...David Wong is an [I]in universe[/I] pseudonym in his works. Literally one of the first lines in his first book is something along the lines of "Wong? You don't look Asian" or something along those lines

What the literal fuck. I have no words.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;52932440]this is like the polar opposite of the truth :v[/QUOTE] No, no it isn't. Mainstream >international< manga and anime are make very little money save for a few hyper lucrative standouts that make the lion's share of almost everything, and especially in anime if you expect something to last more than a couple of half length seasons, you better have an international audience. The majority of money earned from Academia, Bleach, Dragonball and the like is from licensing deals, not the base product. The only product to consistently turn out home profits on the same level as it used to and the same level as other mass media venues in other countries is anime and manga for kids, which doesn't ever the see the light of day outside of japan, and tends to be simply drawn and simple message material suitable for for 6-9 years olds.

[QUOTE=27X;52932940]No, no it isn't. Mainstream >international< manga and anime are make very little money save for a few hyper lucrative standouts that make the lion's share of almost everything, and especially in anime if you expect something to last more than a couple of half length seasons, you better have an international audience. The majority of money earned from Academia, Bleach, Dragonball and the like is from licensing deals, not the base product. The only product to consistently turn out home profits on the same level as it used to and the same level as other mass media venues in other countries is anime and manga for kids, which doesn't ever the see the light of day outside of japan, and tends to be simply drawn and simple message material suitable for for 6-9 years olds.[/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Seinen_manga_magazines[/url] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Josei_manga_magazines[/url] i guess all these magazines that have been running for decades and are doing just fine running manga aimed at older audiences with little-to-no consideration towards an international market don't exist now

[QUOTE=27X;52932940]No, no it isn't. Mainstream >international< manga and anime are make very little money save for a few hyper lucrative standouts that make the lion's share of almost everything, and especially in anime if you expect something to last more than a couple of half length seasons, you better have an international audience. The majority of money earned from Academia, Bleach, Dragonball and the like is from licensing deals, not the base product. The only product to consistently turn out home profits on the same level as it used to and the same level as other mass media venues in other countries is anime and manga for kids, which doesn't ever the see the light of day outside of japan, and tends to be simply drawn and simple message material suitable for for 6-9 years olds.[/QUOTE] You're also totally ignoring the fact that a LOT of the Western anime/manga market is consumed via fansubs and scanlations, which don't make the studios any money at all.

[QUOTE=27X;52932940]No, no it isn't. Mainstream >international< manga and anime are make very little money save for a few hyper lucrative standouts that make the lion's share of almost everything, and especially in anime if you expect something to last more than a couple of half length seasons, you better have an international audience. The majority of money earned from Academia, Bleach, Dragonball and the like is from licensing deals, not the base product. The only product to consistently turn out home profits on the same level as it used to and the same level as other mass media venues in other countries is anime and manga for kids, which doesn't ever the see the light of day outside of japan, and tends to be simply drawn and simple message material suitable for for 6-9 years olds.[/QUOTE] "Mainstream" manga make very little money? so what, does niche manga make negative money? If Attack on Titan and One Piece barely turn a profit, do Made in Abyss and Tsugumomo make negative money? :y You aren't even talking about manga, you're talking about anime. And even if we were talking about anime, you're [I]still[/I] wrong.

[QUOTE=27X;52932940]No, no it isn't. Mainstream >international< manga and anime are make very little money save for a few hyper lucrative standouts that make the lion's share of almost everything, and especially in anime if you expect something to last more than a couple of half length seasons, you better have an international audience. The majority of money earned from Academia, Bleach, Dragonball and the like is from licensing deals, not the base product. The only product to consistently turn out home profits on the same level as it used to and the same level as other mass media venues in other countries is anime and manga for kids, which doesn't ever the see the light of day outside of japan, and tends to be simply drawn and simple message material suitable for for 6-9 years olds.[/QUOTE] So, your examples: A) Only make very little money from licensing deals on the international market B) Only make substantial money in Japan Yet if it wasn't for the international market, they'd be dead medias? What?

[QUOTE=DuCT;52932644]So when are people going to be upset about David Wong? Really this is a big nontraversy.[/QUOTE] I'm not too familiar with him but according to wikipedia: [quote]When Pargin started PWOT, he took on the pseudonym of David Wong to keep his real and online lives separate. Since much of his writing involved situations similar to his real life, he did not want co-workers and his employers to think that his rants about fictional characters were inspired by real people. The origin of the name was a character from one of his first short stories. He writes "It's not a very interesting story, 'David Wong' was the villain in a story I had written way back in the day, so when I was signing up for my first online accounts in 1998 I started using it. Then when hate mail started coming in with a bunch of racist anti-Chinese insults, I realized I had either gone badly wrong or badly right."[12] After his book and movie deal, his real name became common knowledge, but Wong accepted it, saying "It's not like I'm under the Witness Protection program or anything. I was just trying to keep things simple in my personal life."[/quote] These cases are completely different

[QUOTE=27X;52932037]. This is especially hilarious considering without the western market propping it up, Japanese manga would be all but dead right now, [/QUOTE] You on crack or, what?

[QUOTE]befriended the likes of [B]Pat Lee[/B][/QUOTE] Pffhhahahahahaha! Boy if you though THIS guy was a fraud, get a load of this [URL="http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Pat_Lee"]shithead.[/URL] If you want to skip out on a honestly funny wiki page, Pat Lee is a con artist who used to be a big comic artist at Dreamwave. Most of his artwork and writing is crap, especially if you saw his artwork on the discontinued Dreamwave Transformers comics, so he used other artists work for issues and refused to pay them for a long time. Sometimes comic issues would be delayed for months and he would forget to pay off the artists who DID work on the comic. He also went on to spend the company's money on multiple sports cars for HIMSELF, a new studio in his own name, and controversially paying the judges for his GF to win Miss Hong Kong of 2006 (suffice to say she was in the word and broke up with him.). Pat Lee has apparently not found work as far as I know and thank god. Keep that hackfraud from a empty comicbook panel! The image of greed in comic medium imo. [T]http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/9/97/Patlee.jpg[/T]