Eat chicken sashimi at your own risk, experts warn - Sensationalist Headlines

[IMG]http://del.h-cdn.co/assets/17/37/980x490/landscape-1505145644-8520306503-941d6d427c-h.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]Most people know that raw chicken carries serious health risks, which is why we all wash our hands and any utensils after touching it.So the internet is aghast at the discovery that chicken sashimi exists. It’s popular in Japan, where raw chicken - often referred to as chicken tartare or chicken sashimi - is found on many menus. But it’s not as if the country doesn’t know the risks associated with consuming raw chicken. In July, Japan’s Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare issued a warning about eating it and stressed that restaurants must cook chicken to a 75-degree internal temperature before being served. Many restaurants, however, simply boil or sear chicken for as little as ten seconds, which isn’t enough to kill any potentially harmful bacteria - raw poultry can contain dangerous microbes such as campylobacter and salmonella. Nutritionist Rhiannon Lambert advises people eat chicken sashimi at their own peril. “Some claim that raw foods are more nutritious than cooked foods because enzymes, along with some nutrients, are destroyed in the cooking process,” Lambert explained to [I]The Independent[/I]. “Yet, some foods contain unsafe bacteria and microorganisms that are only eliminated by cooking. Eating a completely raw diet that includes fish and meat comes with a risk of developing a foodborne illness. Depending on where you’re eating, there may be better or worse food safety standards. “In the UK, the NHS suggests campylobacter bacteria are the most common cause of food poisoning. This bacteria along with salmonella and e.coli are usually found on raw or undercooked meat, especially chicken. Another concern is cross-contamination which can happen if you prepare raw chicken on a chopping board and don't wash the board before preparing food that won't be cooked such as salad.” And raw chicken should definitely be avoided if you’re very young, old, pregnant or have a weak immune system. Needless to say, many people are horrified by the prospect of eating raw chicken. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/chicken-sashimi-eat-risk-food-poisoning-bacteria-salmonella-campylobacter-experts-a7935591.html[/url] Are people fucking stupid or what

[QUOTE]“Some claim that raw foods are more nutritious than cooked foods because enzymes, along with some nutrients, are destroyed in the cooking process,” [/QUOTE] The whole reason humankind even developed intelligence is due to cooking creating a far cleaner and superior food source Cooked food is easier to process, and through this you get more nutrients unless your cooking your steak to a charcoal you aren't 'destroying' it, just altering it with heat. [editline]20th September 2017[/editline] also, so long as you eat from a clean and sterile place that sanitizes correctly you'll generally be safe I mean it should be obvious that raw foods carry risks

The risk of foodborne pathogens from consuming raw food, especially sushi, is almost completely negated if you know that it's fresh and (very important, especially for chicken) sourced from a hygienic non-factory farm. Clean, vaccinated chickens are very unlikely to carry salmonella or other crazy bacteria in their meat or their eggs. A lot of Japanese people consume raw egg as well without consequence, if they're smart about where they get it from. What this article really means is: don't go to shifty sushi places. Eat at reputable restaurants that know what they're doing. If you know how to prepare sashimi or raw egg at home, don't buy your fish or poultry products from questionable markets. Sanitize your cutting boards. Do research on your food to minimize the risks involved. [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;52699688]also, so long as you eat from a clean and sterile place that sanitizes correctly you'll generally be safe I mean it should be obvious that raw foods carry risks[/QUOTE] This.

even if you wanted to, why? raw chicken tastes like shit

I've never tasted raw chicken. I can't imagine that it'd taste good though.

[QUOTE=Furioso;52699726]The risk of foodborne pathogens from consuming raw food, especially sushi, is almost completely negated if you know that it's fresh and (very important, especially for chicken) sourced from a hygienic non-factory farm. Clean, vaccinated chickens are very unlikely to carry salmonella or other crazy bacteria in their meat or their eggs. A lot of Japanese people consume raw egg as well without consequence, if they're smart about where they get it from. What this article really means is: don't go to shifty sushi places. Eat at reputable restaurants that know what they're doing. If you know how to prepare sashimi or raw egg at home, don't buy your fish or poultry products from questionable markets. Sanitize your cutting boards. Do research on your food to minimize the risks involved. [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] This.[/QUOTE] Doesn't every single cut of meat have a substantial risk of contamination simply because butchering an animal inherently means risking stuff from the digestive tract coming into contact with the meat? Maybe you can avoid salmonella, but you can't avoid intestines, because every animal has a digestive system.

Raw fish? aw yeah bby Raw beef? yes pls Raw chicken? disgusting goop meat

Very few things make me physical nauseous as a concept.. this is one.

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;52699785]Doesn't every single cut of meat have a substantial risk of contamination simply because butchering an animal inherently means risking stuff from the digestive tract coming into contact with the meat? Maybe you can avoid salmonella, but you can't avoid intestines, because every animal has a digestive system.[/QUOTE] unless you are literally bringing a cut of meat in from a fresh kill less than a few hours ago, yes. That is the only possible situation in which a human could safely eat raw meat, and as you said, it has to be butchered very carefully to avoid contamination

I legitimately can't stand chicken as it is tbh

[QUOTE=ChronoBlade;52699782]I've never tasted raw chicken. I can't imagine that it'd taste good though.[/QUOTE] it doesn't, it just taste wet and squishy and unless its fresh it taste really bad (still tastes bad either way)

[QUOTE=J!NX;52699688]The whole reason humankind even developed intelligence is due to cooking creating a far cleaner and superior food source Cooked food is easier to process, and through this you get more nutrients unless your cooking your steak to a charcoal you aren't 'destroying' it, just altering it with heat. [editline]20th September 2017[/editline] [B]also, so long as you eat from a clean and sterile place that sanitizes correctly you'll generally be safe[/B] I mean it should be obvious that raw foods carry risks[/QUOTE] I read somewhere that the reason Japanese raw meat is safer than any other countries raw meat is just that the restaurants aren't middle-man'ed away from their sources and can know with certainty they're serving food that's safe to eat raw. Or in other words if you got a proper source for safe chicken, you could eat it raw with 100% certainty (iirc), it's just that most countries are big enough for this to be logistically impossible.

[QUOTE=MedicWine;52699813]I read somewhere that the reason Japanese raw meat is safer than any other countries raw meat is just that the restaurants aren't middle-man'ed away from their sources and can know with certainty they're serving food that's safe to eat raw. Or in other words if you got a proper source for safe chicken, you could eat it raw with 100% certainty (iirc), it's just that most countries are big enough for this to be logistically impossible.[/QUOTE] Japan has a scary good work ethic and they're insanely good at sanitation American sanitation, I've cleaned butcheries pretty effectively but I've seen some shit man.

god the texture of that must be so repulsive

[QUOTE=Cone;52699826]god the texture of that must be so repulsive[/QUOTE] it's about the same texture as tuna

Pinker than my ass cheeks, and nobody sane would eat that

From what I heard over in Japan chickens are kept in far better conditions so the risk of salmonella is much lower. It still happens, but their chickens aren't the collection of parasites we have over here.

why though. i once undercooked chicken in a pasta cream dish thing that i boshed together. it was absolutely disgusting. the texture of slightly undercooked chicken was gross, gross enough to make me throw it back on the stove and cook it longer. raw chicken? texture so gross i'd gag as i ate it. raw chicken doesn't even taste nice!

I too like my chicken medium rare.. :vomit:

The only raw meat I can stomach is raw fish in sushi and even then I don't like it much. Raw chicken sounds disgusting even if it was completely safe.

Lol i'm in japan right now, cheaking facepunch before going out for dinner. Havent seen any if that stuff yet, and even if I did no thanks eugh. Why would I try japanese chicken when japanese beef is a thing anyway.

Raw chicken is great in the way the Japanese prepare it. But I prefer cooked anyway.

I ate some raw chicken by accident once, I microwaved a chicken patty that I thought was pre-cooked, but it wasn't. No idea why would you want to eat it, it was pretty tasteless and the texture was like fatty jello.

If you are into eating squishy, dense and tasteless gelatine (and also enjoy getting salmonella and other nasty things every now and then), then this is perfect i suppose. Seriously who the hell came up with this and thinking "I am 100% sure that eating raw chickhen is good for me!", it's dumb.

[quote]“Some claim that raw foods are more nutritious than cooked foods because enzymes, along with some nutrients, are destroyed in the cooking process,” [/quote] Anyone who knows ANYTHING about biology will know that any enzymes in chicken will be destroyed by your own stomach acids or be utterly useless to you.

Whatever is in the op looks like shit. I feel like I've had very slightly seared/ raw chicken with a nice sauce several times at izakaya. I remember it being decently good, although after drinking everything tastes delicious, especially in Japan.

It would probably taste fine I think, the bigger problem is the week of bloody diahhrea you could get from eating it. I think in Japan they are more careful to avoid contamination in the butchering process, but since salmonella and campylobacter are pretty much natural gut flora for poultry, its very hard to avoid contamination.

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;52699785]Doesn't every single cut of meat have a substantial risk of contamination simply because butchering an animal inherently means risking stuff from the digestive tract coming into contact with the meat? Maybe you can avoid salmonella, but you can't avoid intestines, because every animal has a digestive system.[/QUOTE] The correct butchering practice will make this a non-issue. When we clean the deer we kill, all of the internals are dropped out intact, so there isn't a risk of it. You just have to be careful not to pop the stomach or bladder.

ew, raw chicken is disgusting. thats not even remotely cooked. undercooked chicken should be just slightly pink, not bloody and certainly not steralized.

I am now left wondering if bacon is still delicious in its raw form.