Charlotte Police Investigate Arson, Hate-Crime at Immigrant-Owned Business - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote]CHARLOTTE -- Charlotte-Mecklenburg police are searching for a man who set a fire and left a note threatening an immigrant business owner. A fire was found at the front door of the Central Market in the 5700 block of Albemarle Road just before 10 p.m. Thursday when the store was closed. Someone threw a rock through a glass panel, set the door on fire and left a note by the door. The note referenced not wanting any refugee business owners, saying ""We need to get rid of Muslims Indians and all immigrants." It was signed "White America." CMPD reviewed store surveillance footage. They believe the suspect is a black man about 5’ 8” tall and weighing 200 pounds. He was wearing a grey hoodie. [/quote] [url]http://www.twcnews.com/nc/charlotte/news/2017/04/7/charlotte-police-investigate-arson-and-hate-crime-incident.html#/0[/url] [url]http://www.wcnc.com/news/crime/cmpd-investigating-alleged-hate-crime-at-east-charlotte-business/429529947[/url] Letter posted by suspect: [t]http://www.twcnews.com/content/dam/News/NC/business_fire_letter.png[/t] Contents of the letter: [quote]"Business owner Our newly elected president Donald Trump is our nation builder for white America. You all know that, we want our country back on the right track. We need to get rid of Muslims, Indians and all immigrants. Specially (sic), we don't want business run by refugees and immigrant any more(sic). We are ready to wake up some of our great state including North Carolina and we will take care of the country. Immigrants and refugee are taking our job, doing our business and leaving us standard(sic). So, you are not allowed to do business any more(sic). We know you are one and many of other immigrant doing business here. This is our warning. Leave the business and go back where you came from. If you don't follow this warning then we are not responsible for the torture starting now. God Bless America... ... ... ...White America"[/quote] Photo of the Suspect [t]http://www.twcnews.com/content/dam/News/NC/Suspect1.jpg[/t] I feel sorry for the business owner, especially since he now feels like not reopening his business (according to the second source). Also hopefully people will just be vigilant on any hate crime reported, and wait for further investigation and verification on situations, cause it appears this one is another false flag.

:snip: Gonna withhold judgement for a little while on this.

Tudd, I and plenty of others have seen enough of your threads and posts around here to understand why you've posted this particular article here. It's incredibly annoying seeing folk like you time and time again using incidents like this in an attempt to sew distrust of reports of hate crimes against immigrants and minorities and push your twisted nationalistic agenda; and your false facade of civility is doing a pretty pathetic job of covering this up.

[QUOTE=Tudd;52074693][t]http://www.twcnews.com/content/dam/News/NC/business_fire_letter.png[/t] [/QUOTE] Correct capitalization and punctuation? That's pretty impressive for a racist. Not that the words themselves are very well thought out. Additionally, he should've used justify for the text. Overall, C-.

Pretty fucking amazing that even some white people still think they didn't descend from immigrants

[QUOTE=Cyanlime;52075048]Tudd, I and plenty of others have seen enough of your threads and posts around here to understand why you've posted this particular article here. It's incredibly annoying seeing folk like you time and time again using incidents like this in an attempt to sew distrust of reports of hate crimes against immigrants and minorities and push your twisted nationalistic agenda; and your false facade of civility is doing a pretty pathetic job of covering this up.[/QUOTE] I am sorry that you do not like that certain types of news comes from the same users, but I feel that if these users keep posting news that is actually happening, you should probably care more to understand reality than try to blame the user for posting these articles as a sidestep to the existence of these articles. All your post suggests is that you really don't like that I posted this. The article and situation is still real regardless on who posted it, and enough of these cases have confimrably happened and turned out fake that a rational person has to question every hate crime claim until verified further beyond hearsay in my personal opinion. I mean maybe the current suspect is a white supremacist, but I think that is incredibly unlikely, and we will find out more when they are actually caught. So how is telling people to be more cautious about unverifiable hate crime reports a bad view?

[QUOTE=Murkrow;52075163]Correct capitalization and punctuation? That's pretty impressive for a racist. Not that the words themselves are very well thought out. Additionally, he should've used justify for the text. Overall, C-.[/QUOTE] Does all that, then uses "standard" instead of "stranded". :v: On a serious note, my sister and family are in Charlotte, so that specific mention of Indians being targeted makes me fear for her safety :frown:

[QUOTE=Tudd;52075210]I am sorry that you do not like that certain types of news comes from the same users, but I feel that if these users keep posting news that is actually happening, you should probably care more to understand reality than try to blame the user for posting these articles as a sidestep to the existence of these articles. All your post suggests is that you really don't like that I posted this. The article and situation is still real regardless on who posted it, and enough of these cases have confimrably happened and turned out fake that a rational person has to question every hate crime claim until verified further beyond hearsay in my personal opinion. I mean maybe the current suspect is a white supremacist, but I think that is incredibly unlikely, and we will find out more when they are actually caught. So how is telling people to be more cautious about unverifiable hate crime reports a bad view?[/QUOTE] [B]As fucking if [/B]you're being so impartial here. I'd bet a years paycheck that if this had been an actual white/caucasian white supremacist on that security cam you wouldn't have posted this thread.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;52075384][B]As fucking if [/B]you're being so impartial here. I'd bet a years paycheck that if this had been an actual white/caucasian white supremacist on that security cam you wouldn't have posted this thread.[/QUOTE] I have posted other hate crime threads that weren't false flags/appear to be faked. Typically related to actual Nazis if you search my thread history.

Only on facepunch would people try to deny clear evidence in articles presented to them just so they can accuse someone of being a racist. Fucking unbelievable. Things like this might not be common but just because it doesn't follow the narrative of anything race related being the fault of white people, it doesn't mean you can disregard it or start calling people racist.

[QUOTE=Tudd;52075420]I have posted other hate crime threads that weren't false flags/appear to be faked actually. Typically related to actual Nazis.[/QUOTE] Couple attacked with hammer at Gas Station for apparently having 'Fancy' Boat, being white "HATE CRIME AGAINST WHITES" Long Island man charged in sex assault of toddler, 2 stabbings was deported 4 times. "IMMIGRANTS!" 4 people arrested in vandalism of Chandler family's menorah into swastika "Also did I mention ONE OF THE SUSPECTS WAS BLACK" And so on and so on. Your agenda is legit clear as day, all things considered. I wouldn't be saying this if you actually were impartial and posted stuff like "Blacks are arrested for weed four times as often as whites despite identical usage rates between white and black users" but you don't. Your posts make it very clear that your agenda is to stroke the fear-boner you guys have for blacks and immigrants and mexicans and LGBT peepz. (though that thread about the trans weightlifter was probably justified, i havent read the actual article.) [editline]8th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=orcywoo6;52075444]Only on facepunch would people try to deny clear evidence in articles presented to them just so they can accuse someone of being a racist. Fucking unbelievable. Things like this might not be common but just because it doesn't follow the narrative of anything race related being the fault of white people, it doesn't mean you can disregard it or start calling people racist.[/QUOTE] No-one's disregarding it. This guy who false-flagged and attacked a store is an asshole, a prick, a retard, an idiot and whatever other word you want to use. It's however incredibly disingenuous to only post stuff like "this thing thought to be done by whites was actually done by blacks" or shit like that. if you actually want to be bipartisan and not spread the Trump agenda of "bad immigrants" then let that be reflected in your posts.

How about we actually discuss the contents of the article instead of epic callouts? Who the fuck should care who posted it as long as it actually happened and has reputable sources? This is getting pretty fucking old.

[QUOTE=Boaraes;52075939]How about we actually discuss the contents of the article instead of epic callouts? Who the fuck should care who posted it as long as it actually happened and has reputable sources? This is getting pretty fucking old.[/QUOTE] As far as I've seen, if a thread has something uncomfortable in it then it's more for likely posters will focus on inane tripe instead. Also how fucking stupid are these people that write up false threats. Every time they try it they make it sound so obvious.

Oh yeah Charlotte is awesome, that looks like one of the same homeless dudes who stands in front of the convenience store door shouting at everyone in the parking lot, effectively cutting off access to the store unless you want to run the bum gauntlet We need full time bum rustlers around here for this specific problem.

[QUOTE=J Paul;52076167]Oh yeah Charlotte is awesome, that looks like one of the same homeless dudes who stands in front of the convenience store door shouting at everyone in the parking lot, effectively cutting off access to the store unless you want to run the bum gauntlet We need full time bum rustlers around here for this specific problem.[/QUOTE] Rent around here keeps going up, it isn't a surprise there is a homeless problem.

[QUOTE=Cyanlime;52075048]Tudd, I and plenty of others have seen enough of your threads and posts around here to understand why you've posted this particular article here. It's incredibly annoying seeing folk like you time and time again using incidents like this in an attempt to sew distrust of reports of hate crimes against immigrants and minorities and push your twisted nationalistic agenda; and your false facade of civility is doing a pretty pathetic job of covering this up.[/QUOTE] Its only agenda pushing when it goes against your narrative right? You want to know what really sews distrust? People throwing rocks through windows signed "white america". And the funny thing is, maybe if the rock thrower was white Thudd wouldn't post it, but someone else would and I can already imagine the trump hate circle jerk that would occur.

found him [img]http://i.imgur.com/RQcfhpA.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=edberg;52080950]found him [img]http://i.imgur.com/RQcfhpA.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Appropriate, now I'm hearing that letter being read in his voice in my head.

[QUOTE=Boaraes;52075939]How about we actually discuss the contents of the article instead of epic callouts? Who the fuck should care who posted it as long as it actually happened and has reputable sources? This is getting pretty fucking old.[/QUOTE] Man this shit sucks. Ok your turn to contribute!

They caught and charged the guy. [url]http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/police-charge-man-in-connection-with-arson-hate-crime-of-e-charlotte-business_/429941972[/url] No further information on the motives.

Tudd's sickening hypocrisy and general lack of integrity rears its awkward head once more. He spent the entirety of the thread linked below preaching about how unfair it is to use a few isolated incidents as evidence of a trend, berating people for their intellectual dishonesty. Naturally, he is the single worst perpetrator of doing just that on Facepunch, and this thread is just one more example of that. [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1558091&p=52015832&highlight=#post52015832[/url] But here? [Quote] [b]enough of these cases have confimrably happened and turned out fake that a rational person has to question every hate crime claim[/B][/quote] You're an embarrassment to yourself and this community, Tudd. Practice what you preach, or stop fucking preaching.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52098107]Tudd's sickening hypocrisy and general lack of integrity rears its awkward head once more. He spent the entirety of the thread linked below preaching about how unfair it is to use a few isolated incidents as evidence of a trend, berating people for their intellectual dishonesty. Naturally, he is the single worst perpetrator of doing just that on Facepunch, and this thread is just one more example of that. [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1558091&p=52015832&highlight=#post52015832[/url] But here? You're an embarrassment to yourself and this community, Tudd. Practice what you preach, or stop fucking preaching.[/QUOTE] Well I actually posted evidence of the typical forums of Trump Supporters not seemingly caring. I think most people can see it was a news article built on a few amount of tweets to create the idea this was a bigger issue than it actually was. Besides, that isn't even really related to the accusations of hate crimes this article or others are about. Those accusations carry weight until proven real or not, but bitching about a online adaption of a book is nothing but chatter. And yes, enough fake hate crimes have popped up recently that I think it is more than fair and wise to wait for confirmation or verification on the situations.

Okay! I guess stupid generalizations are only valid if they're coming out of your mouth then. All hate crimes should be considered fake, because Tudd found a few scattered examples of fake hate crimes. Just don't anybody dare to criticize Republicans based on some of the bad eggs among them, because that is unfair.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52100354]Okay! I guess stupid generalizations are only valid if they're coming out of your mouth then. All hate crimes should be considered fake, because Tudd found a few scattered examples of fake hate crimes. Just don't anybody dare to criticize Republicans based on some of the bad eggs among them, because that is unfair.[/QUOTE] I think Tudd is a poo poo head myself but this is some strong strawmanning you've got going on here. He never said to consider all hate crimes fake, he said to "wait for confirmation or verification on the situations". While I think that statement is ridiculous because that's what should be done regardless, your putting words into his mouth really doesn't help bolster your stance.

Oh boy, it's a thread about identity politics involving immigrants. Knew before I even glanced at the name that it was a Tudd thread, he's like a far-right Tumblr SJW. Tudd. Serious question. While we know you're very desperately attached to your narrative, it seems at times that you view everything through a political lens. Every single one of your threads that I've seen, without exception, is political in nature. Don't you think you need a break from this? It's bad for your mental health.

[QUOTE=edberg;52080950]found him [img]http://i.imgur.com/RQcfhpA.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] TBH, stories like these makes me kinda wish Aaron McGruder would return to The Boondocks, he would have a field day what with the state of Trump's America.

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;52100369]While I think that statement is ridiculous because that's what should be done regardless.[/QUOTE] You would hope, but it has to be pointed out still sometimes.