Antifa mob shuts down Yaron Brook (& Sargon of Akkad) event at London college - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote]An Antifa mob stormed a lecture hall at the King’s College in London Monday night, forcing an Ayn Rand Institute event to be evacuated. Video taken at the event shows individuals in masks and bandanas, brandishing an antifa flag, storming the lecture hall as a fire alarm goes off. Students started yelling and at one point a man punches an antifa disrupter in the face. The interrupted discussion was between Dr. Yaron Brook, chairman of the board of directors of the Ayn Rand Institute, and YouTube personality Sargon of Akkad. According to the Ayn Rand Institute, the event was to be a “discussion about Rand’s philosophy, Objectivism” and the conversation was to “be followed by a question and answer period.” Violent protests also erupted outside the event hall, which led the college to bar all non-student ticket holders from attending the event. The Ayn Rand Institute estimates the hosting student group, King’s Libertarian Society, was forced to turn away roughly 200 external ticket holders. “I was told that due to a ‘risk assessment’ that it was only open to students. So I just huffed and went home! I’m not surprised it’s just an underhand tactic to effectively censor ideas they dislike. Which is fine I just wish they were more honest about it,” one individual who was turned away told Red Alert Politics, who commented anonymously. John Switzer Haagensen, another non-student ticket holder, told Red Alert Politics, "it was somewhat chaotic at the campus. We were all their [sic] hopeful to get in but the university wouldn’t botch claiming security concerns ... we were outside in the hallway prevented from entering, the antifascists aggressors arrived with smoke bombs." "I strongly feel the university caved into the antifa protesters. They need to protect free speech and not prevent people from joining peacefully. They changed criteria just 2.5 hours prior to the event despite it having been scheduled for months. I am very disappointed in an institution a top university in the world acting cowardly like this," Switzer Haagensen continued. The rioting was not spontaneous. A Facebook event to protest Brook's talk was organized by the KCL Socialist Students, Intersectional Feminist Society, Kashmir Solidarity Movement, KCL LGBT+, KCL Action Palestine Society, KCL Justice For Cleaners, and the Demilitarise King's campaign. “Come out, be loud, interrupt fascist spaces and organizations, don't let their discourse be normalised [sic]!” the Facebook event for the protest advertised. King’s Libertarian Society, led by student Danny Al-Khafaji, issued a statement calling the evening “an act of violence, clearly intended to silence Yaron and Sargon's planned debate, via a series of jackbooted totalitarian tactics that unfortunately proved successful …” The statement continues, “Windows have been smashed, and gas bombs were lit on campus. A number of KCL security guards are on their way to hospital after being assaulted …” ....[/quote] [url]http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/antifa-mob-shuts-down-yaron-brook-event-at-london-college/article/2650738[/url] [url=https://www.facebook.com/Kingslibertarian/posts/1726193344114130]Statement from event organizers[/url] 13:24 [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S544c_JRhQk[/media] [media]https://youtu.be/Jvkzo4GXDyI[/media] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Do not use Tabloid articles. Check your sources before creating the thread!" - Kiwi))[/highlight]

sargon might be a little shit, but Antifa is utter trash.

That seemed kinda rude.

[QUOTE]Violent protests also erupted outside the event hall, which led the college to bar all non-student ticket holders from attending the event.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Students started yelling and at one point a man punches an antifa disrupter in the face.[/QUOTE] huh, the only apparent incidence of violence wasn't done by the violent protesters? :thinking:

Antifa's flag is a picture of flags? What poor design

He apparently got hit in the tit and he pinned and slapped(?) one. I wouldn't even punch sargon.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;53180242]huh, the only apparent incidence of violence wasn't done by the violent protesters? :thinking:[/QUOTE] Is there video of the punch, because if not I'm going to hold whatever happened with a grain of salt. It's quite possible that the antifa member was grabbing the guy in some way, that pressured the dude to take a swing.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;53180253]Is there video of the punch, because if not I'm going to hold whatever happened with a grain of salt. It's quite possible that the antifa member was grabbing the guy in some way, that pressured the dude to take a swing.[/QUOTE] I'm admittedly skimming through this story because I'm busy doing something else but those line stuck out at me.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;53180253]Is there video of the punch, because if not I'm going to hold whatever happened with a grain of salt. It's quite possible that the antifa member was grabbing the guy in some way, that pressured the dude to take a swing.[/QUOTE] It’s in the first video with the red beanie Antifa member who shoved people and tried to steal the mic while roaming on/off the stage.

Where is any proof of this so called chaos and violent protesting? [QUOTE] The statement continues, “Windows have been smashed, and gas bombs were lit on campus. A number of KCL security guards are on their way to hospital after being assaulted …”[/QUOTE] This is flat out terrorism and yet your source is the only place reporting this? This doesn't strike you as odd, Tudd?

Can't we all just sit down and talk? I mean, how else are we supposed to get past all this shit? Also, lol at the Antifas who walk in at the beginning and then cover their faces afterwards like that's going to make a difference. [editline]5th March 2018[/editline] To be fair, I know Sargon isn't a fascist but I know nothing about the other people on that stage. Still though, this shit is just childish.

[QUOTE=Tudd;53180268]It’s in the first video with the red beanie Antifa member who shoved people and tried to steal the mic while roaming on/off the stage.[/QUOTE] You mean the guy who accidentally walked into someone who grabbed at his flag and then punched him while he tried to get away? And then another guy jumps in to start punching the antifa member? To make this easier for everyone else, it happens at 13:41. [QUOTE=Propane Addict;53180287]This is flat out terrorism and yet your source is the only place reporting this? This doesn't strike you as odd, Tudd?[/QUOTE] It's almost as if someone is reporting on this because they know it doesn't matter how accurate their article is, it'll still bolster the division. [editline] oh hamburgers[/editline] I feel like I should clarify that I'm probably talking about Lauren Cooley, who wrote the article.

Does “sargon of akkad” have any qualifications whatsoever? What merit does he (presumably) have to be speaking at London College? Why should anyone be surprised if events like these become a free-for-all? Can we have a conversation about that?

[QUOTE=Kommodore;53180310]Does “sargon of akkad” have any qualifications whatsoever? What merit does he (presumably) have to be speaking at London university? Why should anyone be surprised if events like these become a free-for-all? Can we have a conversation about that?[/QUOTE] Yes, let's have a conversation about how Sargon was asking for it because he doesn't meet your criteria on what makes for a properly qualified speaker.

[QUOTE=SAULSBASHWALL;53180317]Yes, let's have a conversation about how Sargon was asking for it because he doesn't meet your criteria on what makes for a properly qualified speaker.[/QUOTE] Yeah, lets. If you’re some youtube drama queen who essentially slings shit down a one-way street and preaches to a choir, who’d be doing who knows what if he didn’t have an ad platform available, and stand on a soapbox and a bunch of random people show up who want to be equally as indulgently opinionated, why should anyone care? Why do you get to use a university as a platform and end up being posted about by our resident user-who-shall-not-be-named as if it mattered or you earned it?

[QUOTE=SAULSBASHWALL;53180317]Yes, let's have a conversation about how Sargon was asking for it because he doesn't meet your criteria on what makes for a properly qualified speaker.[/QUOTE] People have the right to protest?

[QUOTE=Kommodore;53180330]Yeah, lets. If you’re some youtube drama queen who essentially slings shit down a one-way street and preaches to a choir, who’d be doing who knows what if he didn’t have an ad platform available, stand on a soapbox and a bunch of random people show up who want to be equally as indulgently opinionated, why should anyone care? How do you get to use a university as a platform and end up being posted about by our resident user-who-shall-not-be-named as if it mattered or you earned it?[/QUOTE] because the people hosting it wanted you there to share your thoughts? Why does this make it acceptable to barge in and disrupt it en masse? Is doing so somehow equivalent to making dumb videos on a youtube channel that people literally have to choose to watch? Does Sargon need a license to be a speaker?

I don't think telling an idiot who tried to get all Social Justice courses shut down on campuses cause they hurt his feelings to bugger off from a campus is really too controversial. Also I know this isn't Polidicks but [URL]https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/red-alert-politics/[/URL] [B]RIGHT BIAS[/B] [B]Factual Reporting: MIXED[/B] I'm not quiet willing to believe all of what seems to be a news bubble for campus rightists. Also when their only source is the [I] Ayn Rand Institute [/I]

[QUOTE=SAULSBASHWALL;53180344]Why does this make it acceptable to barge in and disrupt it en masse?[/QUOTE] Sargon's lack of credentials doesn't make it acceptable for people to protest, the first amendment does.

Antifa mob shuts down Facepunch thread.

Antifa could do a lot more than heckling random people. This is why people think they're thugs. [editline]6th March 2018[/editline] Their flag designs sucks ass though, though I will say the colors are my school colors so Go Braves!.

[QUOTE=SAULSBASHWALL;53180344]because the people hosting it wanted you there to share your thoughts? Why does this make it acceptable to barge in and disrupt it en masse? Is doing so somehow equivalent to making dumb videos on a youtube channel that people literally have to choose to watch? Does Sargon need a license to be a speaker?[/QUOTE] You don't need a license to be a speaker. Exactly. If you get by on taking into a microphone with no peer review, no bibliography, no deparment head, no students, no responsibility, you get to be interrupted. Period.

Pretty tame mob tbh, left in an orderly fashion, color me unimpressed.

The Ayn Rand Institute can invite whoever they want to talk about stuff but Sargon is an absolute scumbag who I would encourage people to protest against.

[QUOTE=Kommodore;53180377]You don't need a license to be a speaker. Exactly. If you get by on taking into a microphone with no peer review, no bibliography, no deparment head, no students, no responsibility, you get to be interrupted. Period.[/QUOTE] It's some libertarian club, I doubt they care about those things. Clubs also have freedoms to do things like this with few exceptions, and a speaker not really being qualified isn't generally one for clubs like this.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;53180392]The Ayn Rand Institute can invite whoever they want to talk about stuff but Sargon is an absolute scumbag who I would encourage people to protest against.[/QUOTE] Yes sure if your smart about it on how you protest. But doing this the only one who gain victory here is Sargon, for he will be seen as a victim and the protesters as terroriest... Otherwords, dont play his game.

[QUOTE=Kommodore;53180310]What merit does he (presumably) have to be speaking at London College?[/QUOTE] He reserved a slot. Universities are [I]literally[/I] the best place for people with ideas that differ from the norm to voice them. That's part of the point.

[QUOTE=Propane Addict;53180287]Where is any proof of this so called chaos and violent protesting? This is flat out terrorism and yet your source is the only place reporting this? This doesn't strike you as odd, Tudd?[/QUOTE] By now I would expect most users to "get the gist" of what gets posted by Tudd and overtones and undertones that motivate the posts. [QUOTE=phygon;53180429]He reserved a slot. Universities are [I]literally[/I] the best place for people with ideas that differ from the norm to voice them. That's part of the point.[/QUOTE] Definitely part of the point; unfortunately for this particular brand of "differing ideas" every day more and more people are not only fed up with such "ideas", but will be more active in protesting them.

[QUOTE=Alec W;53180445] Definitely part of the point; unfortunately for this particular brand of "differing ideas" every day more and more people are not only fed up with such "ideas", but will be more active in protesting them.[/QUOTE] No. We absolutely cannot allow people that we disagree with to be silenced. "We" being US citizens. Protesting is not the same as preventing somebody from speaking. That just makes them a martyr.

Lol These liberals and their safe spaces - "classical Liberals" I mean.