• Construction crew wrangles thief, ties him to scaffold until police arrive
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[QUOTE]CHARLOTTE, NC (FOX 46 WJZY) - A group of construction workers took matters into their own hands when dealing with an alleged thief Wednesday afternoon in uptown Charlotte. The incident happened about 3:40 p.m. at 229 N. Church Street, according to Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police. A FOX 46 Charlotte viewer stumbled upon the scene and says the crew was working on the corner of Church Street and W. 6th Street when the man tried to break into one of their construction vehicles.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;Qo4kHfZI6bA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo4kHfZI6bA[/video] [URL="http://www.fox46charlotte.com/news/local-news/272910271-story"]Source[/URL]
Were they about to on lunch break and leave him there? Why did they need to keep tying him up? I feel like they could have been done before the video even started. And the fuck was that position he was in? Why would you tie somebody up like that?
This is some medieval shit? If you feel you absolutely need to tie someone up at least let them sit down somewhere inside?
-guess this post was pretty dumb-
Oh boo hoo, some lowlife trying to steal from men who are working for a living has to endure mild discomfort to prevent him from escaping until the police arrive. When will the brutality end? [QUOTE=Uberpro;52562098]Also both committed crimes.[/QUOTE] Citizen's arrest is legal. If you catch someone in the commission of a crime you are within your rights to declare a citizen's arrest and restrain them until police arrive.
[QUOTE=Uberpro;52562098]As usual, both sides are retarded. Also both committed crimes.[/QUOTE] The construction workers most likely didn't commit any crime. Depends on if this is going to fall under a citizen's arrest.
And risk hurting them selves or him escaping? Tough shit on the robber, shouldn't have tried robbing them.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;52562102]Oh boo hoo, some lowlife trying to steal from men who are working for a living has to endure mild discomfort to prevent him from escaping until the police arrive. When will the brutality end? Citizen's arrest is legal. If you catch someone in the commission of a crime you are within your rights to declare a citizen's arrest and restrain them until police arrive.[/QUOTE] Proper citizens arrest are legal. You can't just do whatever you feel like to somebody because they appeared to have committed a crime. A non-violent one at that. You can't just start applying punishments before somebody is convicted. That's guilty until proven innocent.
[QUOTE=MedicWine;52562134]Proper citizens arrest are legal. You can't just do whatever you feel like to somebody because they appeared to have committed a crime. A non-violent one at that. You can't just start applying punishments before somebody is convicted. That's guilty until proven innocent.[/QUOTE] If you witness someone committing theft you can restrain them. If it turns out in a court of law they weren't stealing, you are then under the gun for various other crimes. I don't know why you guys are so extremely defensive of criminals, you have to draw the line somewhere. It's not like he was beat down with a jackhammer and sealed in wet concrete. They tied him to scaffolding so he couldn't run away before the police got there. This was a nonviolent response to a nonviolent crime and the workers are fully within their rights. Literally nothing unethical or inhumane transpired here. A police officer handcuffs the same guy, is that also "applying punishment before he's convicted"? Should we just let thieves run amok because they didn't steal their way into a courtroom to be convicted? No, that's retarded, you have to catch them and hold them somehow.
Good. Thieves shouldn't be allowed to get away with their shit. Hope these workers get a raise.
this could potentially be viewed as excessive force in a court of law. however, if the construction crew thought that this was the most capable way to detain the criminal (if he was guilty) then the worst case is that they will receive a verbal/written warning to seek out and use other less harmful ways of detaining people in future or much more likely be told to NOT DO IT AGAIN and let the police handle it (even if that means letting the criminal go)
yeah you guys are right they should have dogpiled him instead :downs:
blue collar BRUTES they shoulda tased him in the knee!!!
The fuck is it with people siding with criminals on this forum
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52562536]The fuck is it with people siding with criminals on this forum[/QUOTE] criminals are a prosecuted minority /s
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52562536]The fuck is it with people siding with criminals on this forum[/QUOTE] people with no life experience commenting on things that are way beyond them
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52562536]The fuck is it with people siding with criminals on this forum[/QUOTE] Probably time for an idiot cull Like a real one not one where everyone gets unbanned within the same day
Maybe Yawnman has alt accounts?
[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;52562643]Maybe Yawnman has alt accounts?[/QUOTE] Or Sky King.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;52562172]If you witness someone committing theft you can restrain them. If it turns out in a court of law they weren't stealing, you are then under the gun for various other crimes. I don't know why you guys are so extremely defensive of criminals, you have to draw the line somewhere. It's not like he was beat down with a jackhammer and sealed in wet concrete. They tied him to scaffolding so he couldn't run away before the police got there. This was a nonviolent response to a nonviolent crime and the workers are fully within their rights. Literally nothing unethical or inhumane transpired here. A police officer handcuffs the same guy, is that also "applying punishment before he's convicted"? Should we just let thieves run amok because they didn't steal their way into a courtroom to be convicted? No, that's retarded, you have to catch them and hold them somehow.[/QUOTE] No thats called restraining a suspect. I would love to represent this guy in a civil suit against the workers. What they did can be argued as excessive or unreasonable force. They didnt restrain his hands they cuffed him to scaffolding ON A ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE and even then not just his hands. They overreacted [url]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/ByArticle/Chapter_15A/Article_20.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwij7emvgdDVAhVFLyYKHeKQADwQFghAMAQ&usg=AFQjCNHfEO04f3VfIvWwEDhfU7D4XgjSvA[/url]
Lol, he's ACU pants.
[QUOTE=BoopieDoopie2;52562805]No thats called restraining a suspect. I would love to represent this guy in a civil suit against the workers. What they did can be argued as excessive or unreasonable force. They didnt restrain his hands they cuffed him to scaffolding ON A ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE and even then not just his hands. They overreacted [url]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/ByArticle/Chapter_15A/Article_20.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwij7emvgdDVAhVFLyYKHeKQADwQFghAMAQ&usg=AFQjCNHfEO04f3VfIvWwEDhfU7D4XgjSvA[/url][/QUOTE] It's almost like laws were made as guidelines, to be interpreted by the legal system based on the situation, as well as precedence.
Lol you guys are big weenies if you think is wrong. They caught a thief and made an example boo hoo poor theif. Stop being such wimps.
[QUOTE=BoopieDoopie2;52562805]No thats called restraining a suspect. I would love to represent this guy in a civil suit against the workers. What they did can be argued as excessive or unreasonable force. They didnt restrain his hands they cuffed him to scaffolding ON A ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE and even then not just his hands. They overreacted [URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/ByArticle/Chapter_15A/Article_20.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwij7emvgdDVAhVFLyYKHeKQADwQFghAMAQ&usg=AFQjCNHfEO04f3VfIvWwEDhfU7D4XgjSvA[/URL][/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/CFNDoGp.png[/IMG] Based on all these variables, I'm more than comfortable thinking your "civil suit" would get thrown out. There is absolutely nothing here to suggest that tying a guy up with duct tape and nylon rope is "excessive or unreasonable". You know what's unreasonable? Breaking into a car. The only thing this article specifies is that they cannot CA with handcuffs (unless directed by an officer). They are well within their rights to restrain him without using violent force [editline]11th August 2017[/editline] Plus considering this was a felony being stopped, they're even more protected by the law. If it was a misdemeanor, you might have some ground to stand on but they stopped a guy in progress on a third degree felony, so you'd just be representing a felon.
the only thing that was hurt was the dude's pride.
[QUOTE=MedicWine;52562134]Proper citizens arrest are legal. You can't just do whatever you feel like to somebody because they appeared to have committed a crime. A non-violent one at that. You can't just start applying punishments before somebody is convicted. That's guilty until proven innocent.[/QUOTE] Then I guess he is guilty since, you know, they could prove he was guilty on the spot? And don't make it out to be like they put him through the biggest torture ever thought of. They tied him up with a leg in the air, not hanged him upside down or something like that. [editline]11th August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=BoopieDoopie2;52562805]No thats called restraining a suspect. I would love to represent this guy in a civil suit against the workers. What they did can be argued as excessive or unreasonable force. They didnt restrain his hands they cuffed him to scaffolding ON A ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE and even then not just his hands. They overreacted [url]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/ByArticle/Chapter_15A/Article_20.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwij7emvgdDVAhVFLyYKHeKQADwQFghAMAQ&usg=AFQjCNHfEO04f3VfIvWwEDhfU7D4XgjSvA[/url][/QUOTE] You are the reason why many people out there do whatever they want, because they know they can just get away with it over stupid technicalities that are seen as breaking a rule. People like you hurt more than they do good.
That's pretty cool of them actually. Its a bit like something out of an old cartoon where the plucky heroes rally the people being taken advantage off in to standing up for themselves, and you get some scene of the villain panicking as a bunch of generic, themed characters charge them and tie them up for the police.
"That's excessive force." They don't look like they're beating his fucking face in, smashing him against the pavement or clocking him with a hammer or anything. You break into a vehicle, in this case a construction vehicle, and you're pretty much fair game if you mess with the wrong owners. This is fairly civil in comparison to other possible results.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52562536]The fuck is it with people siding with criminals on this forum[/QUOTE] Siding with and being fair/humane are different. In this case though nothing really untoward happened
That fucker must feel so embarrassed sitting there all tied up. Good on the construction workers
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