Daily Stormer rejected by GoDaddy, Google and now Cloudflare. Retreats to Dark Web - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE]The Daily Stormer is offline again Wednesday after internet security provider Cloudflare dropped support for the neo-Nazi website. The site, which has been called the "top hate site in America," vanished from the web Monday after GoDaddy and then Google pulled its domain following an offensive story it published about Heather Heyer, who was killed on Saturday while counter-protesting against white supremacist protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia. The site reappeared Wednesday with a new Russian domain. But its return was short-lived and the site dropped offline again after Cloudflare pulled its denial-of-service attack protection for the site. The San Francisco-based company said it has stopped proxying the site, as well as stopped answering DNS requests for it. Cloudflare also said it had taken steps to prevent it from registering for the company's services again. "Our terms of service reserve the right for us to terminate users of our network at our sole discretion," Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince said in a statement. "The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology. "Like a lot of people, we've felt angry at these hateful people for a long time, but we have followed the law and remained content neutral as a network," he said. "We could not remain neutral after these claims of secret support by Cloudflare." A version of the site site has moved onto the darknet, which can only be accessed through the Tor browser. The Tor address, however, pointed readers to the Russian domain, which isn't available.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.cnet.com/au/news/daily-stormer-nazi-offline-cloudflare-pulls-support-racist-charlottesville/[/url]

I hope the private sector universally rejects neonazis and the alt-right. I hope hosting companies cancel their service, I hope the DNS Providers refuse to provide the domain service. I hope they simply disappear from the publicly accessible internet

[QUOTE=proboardslol;52581990]I hope the private sector universally rejects neonazis and the alt-right. I hope hosting companies cancel their service, I hope the DNS Providers refuse to provide the domain service. I hope they simply disappear from the publicly accessible internet[/QUOTE] Already happening, and if PayPal, Google, Apple, Visa, Mastercard and AMEX start pulling their transaction abilities away from these groups, the only method of donation will be through bitcoin which in turn makes it harder for others to donate to them. It sucks that this event was the turning point for a lot of companies to stop supporting these guys

[QUOTE=proboardslol;52581990]I hope the private sector universally rejects neonazis and the alt-right. I hope hosting companies cancel their service, I hope the DNS Providers refuse to provide the domain service. I hope they simply disappear from the publicly accessible internet[/QUOTE]They'll become even more radicalized and entrenched in their beliefs

[QUOTE=Killer900;52582018]They'll become even more radicalized and entrenched in their beliefs[/QUOTE] Not doing anything makes it worse, this now means if you wanna read bullshit like this you gotta go through the effort of downloading and configuring Tor, finding the Tor address through onion directories which can be even harder to find then going to the site and discussion boards.

[QUOTE=Killer900;52582018]They'll become even more radicalized and entrenched in their beliefs[/QUOTE] Good. Then they only need get violent and we can erase them.

[QUOTE=Killer900;52582018]They'll become even more radicalized and entrenched in their beliefs[/QUOTE] Please, by all means, tell us what's more radical and entrenched in themselves than 'We will kill every single man, woman, and child on the face of this Earth who isn't pure White - who stands against us - or who we feel is 'undesirable' and we will begin by killing the Jews'.

I doubt the majority of their reader base knows anything about using Tor, this is gonna kill their viewership/revenue. Good riddance.

[quote]That seems to happen regardless of any action taken.[/quote] Reason: Because they want to be more radical and entrenched. They're like North Korea - they want you to take their threats seriously because they want to be taken seriously. Wrinkle: They've already proven just how serious they can be only 60 years ago and the more their numbers swell the less they care about you taking them seriously and the more they'll just commit to what they said they'd do.

[QUOTE=Killer900;52582018]They'll become even more radicalized and entrenched in their beliefs[/QUOTE] well tough shit for them because it'll be harder to share such shitty views

[QUOTE=Killer900;52582018]They'll become even more radicalized and entrenched in their beliefs[/QUOTE] oh no, those poor guys. we better leave them alone then so more things like this can happen. like seriously, people have been pacifists for years, and look where its gotten them. [editline]17th August 2017[/editline] like, fringe groups in general will become more radicalized and entrenched no matter what you do. they literally victimize themselves based on the smallest little tidbits that show up, either in the news, or they even make up stories to victimize themselves, or purposefully take information the wrong way for that purpose.

[QUOTE=Killer900;52582018]They'll become even more radicalized and entrenched in their beliefs[/QUOTE] I'd rather have a handful of entrenched radicals than an army of neonazis whose beliefs have been validated by what at this point is the [B]worst[/B] [I]period[/I] [B]president[/B] [I]period[/I] [B]ever[/B] [I]period[/I].

[QUOTE=archangel125;52582068]Good. Then they only need get violent and we can erase them.[/QUOTE] I don't think we should be giving them a platform but Jesus Christ dude

Doesn't this mean it's going to become only more difficult for authorities to track down these loonies? All these knee-jerk reactions might be effective on short terms but in the long run this can backfire really bad because these radicalized people are being forced into an even more shady territory. So aside from learning how to use Tor and the deepweb to get a fix of toxic ideoligies these people are now also going to get introduced to the wonders of black markets of drugs, guns and hitman services. We're litteraly creating ticking time bombs which we can't keep track of anymore this way, is that what we want?

[quote]Doesn't this mean it's going to become only more difficult for authorities to track down these loonies?[/quote] Not really. E: They were dumb enough to congregate on Discord of all places. They're not exactly technological wizards.

[QUOTE]"The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology."[/QUOTE] Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Why did they ever think this was a good idea? I mean I get they're white supremacists so they're not all that bright to begin with but wow...

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;52582227]I don't think we should be giving them a platform but Jesus Christ dude[/QUOTE] Let's understand each other. Nazis, by their very ideology, are the enemies of every freedom western nations have ever conferred upon their citizens. They are enemies of the freedoms brave men and women have fought, bled and died for. They are dangerous to civilized society and to the human species as a whole. They're undesirables, but we, being civilized, egalitarian-minded folks, have tolerated their existence so long as they weren't a threat. That changed in Charlottesville. They went out to that protest and violated their agreement with Police with the express intent of doing violence. They went with weapons, body armor, riot shields and helmets. They went, and as soon as they felt they had an excuse, they drove a car into a crowd of unarmed people, murdered a woman and tried to lynch a man. That was a turning point. That was when anyone marching with them who still had two brain cells to rub together went "Wait, shit, this is going too far, I'm out." The rest, though... the ones who still stand with them, the ones planning more 'marches', they're terrorists. Sub-human vermin, due no more consideration than ISIS members. In a way, they're more dangerous by far than ISIS, because that terrorist group has to work hard to commit attacks in Western countries. These scumbags are here, right now. Planning their next attack. So long as they remain non-violent, so should everyone else. But in the interests of protecting the freedoms you hold dear and the way of life you've grown to love, I say all we need is one good excuse. One more instance of them trying to hurt innocent people. And then it's time to load your buckshot and call Elmer Fudd, because it's fucking Nazi season.

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;52582227]I don't think we should be giving them a platform but Jesus Christ dude[/QUOTE] yeah, i personally think we should be prepared to use violent means to fight them but i think we should weep if that day comes. getting excited for it feels somewhat dangerous.

Lets hope their office shuts down.

count on your fingers the number of times you have managed to at all succesfully "reason with" some nazi or alt right shitposter over whether maybe trump is kinda a bad president or that jews don't deserve to be killed if you used up all your fingers, i am so sorry you lost all your fingers in that tragic firework accident companies have the full right to muzzle these dumbfucks, they destroy any pretense they would have even under [b]actual free speech law[/b] by openly plotting violence let them rot on the darkweb imo, i honestly doubt they're smart enough to avoid detection and the ones that are will inevitably do something stupid that will have the fbi/cia kicking their doors (and teeth) in

[QUOTE=Killer900;52582018]They'll become even more radicalized and entrenched in their beliefs[/QUOTE] I don't have any particular moral imperative to go rescue Nazis from their own bullshit. By the time you're identifying as a Nazi, you're already pretty damn radicalized. So, let the fools be as entrenched as they like. At least forcing them to the deepest, darkest corners of the web makes it that much more difficult for them to radicalize [I]others[/I].

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;52582026]Not doing anything makes it worse, this now means if you wanna read bullshit like this you gotta go through the effort of downloading and configuring Tor, finding the Tor address through onion directories which can be even harder to find then going to the site and discussion boards.[/QUOTE] Much more likely to get an admission of guilt out of somebody if they think they're speaking privately. Don't know how you'd find it but it still...

[QUOTE=archangel125;52582068]Good. Then they only need get violent and we can erase them.[/QUOTE]Yeah, we arrest them and throw them in prison when that happens. Shooting them in public isn't a good idea. How do you think we drastically reduced the remaining Nazis influence after World War II? We didn't go out and murder the rest. We put them through the legal system and then federally executed them.

go back into the abyss you crawled from, assholes

[QUOTE=archangel125;52582068]Good. Then they only need get violent and we can erase them.[/QUOTE] tough talk, real tough talk and you wonder why political violence is on the rise

I always thought the Daily Stormer was just dark satire. I had a good chuckle when reading their articles a couple years back.

[QUOTE=LAMB SAUCE;52582832]I always thought the Daily Stormer was just dark satire. I had a good chuckle when reading their articles a couple years back.[/QUOTE]I've had a neo-Nazi tell me it's satire and it's just the left not taking a joke, but damn they couldn't be any more fucking wrong because it's absolutely not satire.

I don't get it. Why do they have to resort to Tor? GoDaddy isn't the only domain registrar. They can register another domain through Namecheap or Gandi.

[QUOTE=Not64;52582857]I don't get it. Why do they have to resort to Tor? GoDaddy isn't the only domain registrar. They can register another domain through Namecheap or Gandi.[/QUOTE] probably denied before they could walk in the door

[QUOTE=archangel125;52582416]Let's understand each other. Nazis, by their very ideology, are the enemies of every freedom western nations have ever conferred upon their citizens. They are enemies of the freedoms brave men and women have fought, bled and died for. They are dangerous to civilized society and to the human species as a whole. They're undesirables, but we, being civilized, egalitarian-minded folks, have tolerated their existence so long as they weren't a threat. That changed in Charlottesville. They went out to that protest and violated their agreement with Police with the express intent of doing violence. They went with weapons, body armor, riot shields and helmets. They went, and as soon as they felt they had an excuse, they drove a car into a crowd of unarmed people, murdered a woman and tried to lynch a man. That was a turning point. That was when anyone marching with them who still had two brain cells to rub together went "Wait, shit, this is going too far, I'm out." The rest, though... the ones who still stand with them, the ones planning more 'marches', they're terrorists. Sub-human vermin, due no more consideration than ISIS members. In a way, they're more dangerous by far than ISIS, because that terrorist group has to work hard to commit attacks in Western countries. These scumbags are here, right now. Planning their next attack. So long as they remain non-violent, so should everyone else. But in the interests of protecting the freedoms you hold dear and the way of life you've grown to love, I say all we need is one good excuse. One more instance of them trying to hurt innocent people. And then it's time to load your buckshot and call Elmer Fudd, because it's fucking Nazi season.[/QUOTE] Still not seeing a compelling reason to think it's a positive thing that violence is being committed by Nazis, just because it gives somebody an opportunity to commit violence against Nazis. More violence is a negative. In the case of stopping violence against Innocents, it's a necessary negative, but it's still very unfortunate. You also seem to be suggesting that one more violent act by a neonazi would justify violence against all neonazis. I think Nazism is an abhorrent ideology, but in America we don't go pumping lead into people because somebody else in their political group acted violently, no matter how awful their political views are. Force should be used against those who have committed crimes and are violently resisting arrest, not against people tangentially related to a crime who haven't committed one themselves. And when we have to kill people, it's not something to celebrate.