E.ON ‘ultra-fast’ electric car charging network announced in Europe – with 10,000 charge points - Sensationalist Headlines

[video=youtube;ZbmdhHaNLhQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbmdhHaNLhQ[/video] [QUOTE]Just a week after the unveiling of Ionity, the new ‘ultra-fast’ joint electric car charging network by BMW, Mercedes, Ford and Volkswagen, electric utility E.ON is one-upping them with the announcement of its own ‘ultra-fast’ charging network across Europe. The difference is that the company is a lot more ambitious in term of the number of charge points. Ionity aims to have 400 stations across Europe by the end of the decade while E.ON is aiming for 10,000 charge points. Neither confirmed how may charge point per station, but with an average of fewer than 6 charge point per station, it’s extremely likely that E.ON’s network is going to be wider. Like Ionity, the company is talking about “ultra-fast charging” with charge rates between 150 kW and 350 kW.[/QUOTE] [url]https://electrek.co/2017/11/06/ultra-fast-electric-car-charging-network/[/url]

I'm pissed about that Shelby cobra.

Can't wait to see cars use 350kW chargers, it would charge a Nissan Leaf from empty in about 7 minutes or so.

Wish someone would do this in fucking Canada, because Tesla sure as fuck is taking their sweet ass time.

[QUOTE=Savage Octane;52862858]I'm pissed about that Shelby cobra.[/QUOTE] Here you go: [video=youtube;eFN1N4Mzun4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFN1N4Mzun4[/video]

[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;52862865]Wish someone would do this in fucking Canada, because Tesla sure as fuck is taking their sweet ass time.[/QUOTE] I've been wondering for a while, are fully electric cars even viable here (in Canada)? I'm concerned about vehicle weight and traction when driving on winter roads, because small hybrid cars can be like a hockey puck skidding across an intersection even when going relatively slow.

[QUOTE=Karmah;52862937]I've been wondering for a while, are fully electric cars even viable here (in Canada)? I'm concerned about vehicle weight and traction when driving on winter roads, because small hybrid cars can be like a hockey puck skidding across an intersection even when going relatively slow.[/QUOTE] Electric cars generally are a bit heavier, and motors can respond much faster to maintain traction. So in theory they should be better?

[QUOTE=Morgen;52862974]Electric cars generally are a bit heavier, and motors can respond much faster to maintain traction. So in theory they should be better?[/QUOTE] due to the way they're built, isn't the center of mass also pretty even and significantly lower in these vehicles? I'm sure that'd benefit traction/handling as well

[QUOTE=dai;52863013]due to the way they're built, isn't the center of mass also pretty even and significantly lower in these vehicles? I'm sure that'd benefit traction/handling as well[/QUOTE] If the battery is along the bottom of the car then yeah. Some manufacturers are still putting them under the bonnet, or under the boot though.

[QUOTE=Savage Octane;52862858]I'm pissed about that Shelby cobra.[/QUOTE] I'm imagining a kit Cobra with a P100D drivetrain and battery bank and I think I just made a mess in my pants. [editline]6th November 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Morgen;52862902]Here you go: 3 second 0-60[/QUOTE] Double yes.

OK, this is a pet peeve, and I'll freely admit that, but those 'pumps' at 0:17 are very blatantly just props. No fucking way are they pumping 100, let alone 350 kw through cables that tiny. The voltages would be an order of magnitude higher than anything currently out there, and that would make them scary prone to arcing and very, VERY dangerous. The reason the supercharger cables are so massive is because you need current in to bring the wattage up if you can't increase the voltage, and high current means fat cables and liquid cooling. Real talk though, we need some serious standardization for charging standards. EU seems like the best place to start because they have a halfway decent track record of mandating them. (think USB phone charging instead of all the proprietary crap.) Come up with a universal plug or two, a basic handshake/signaling protocol to request voltage/current loads and ensure safety, slap a regulation on it and be done with it. Right now we have whatever Tesla's calling their protocol, Chademo, Chademo with DC, Ionity, and whatever this is called, plus the non-rapid solutions based off of conventional 240 plugs. It's turning into cell phones all over again, but the difference is that a cell phone charger was a few dollars. Adapters capable of handling rapid charging loads are going to run several hundred a piece.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;52864523] Real talk though, we need some serious standardization for charging standards. EU seems like the best place to start because they have a halfway decent track record of mandating them. (think USB phone charging instead of all the proprietary crap.) Come up with a universal plug or two, a basic handshake/signaling protocol to request voltage/current loads and ensure safety, slap a regulation on it and be done with it. Right now we have whatever Tesla's calling their protocol, Chademo, Chademo with DC, Ionity, and whatever this is called, plus the non-rapid solutions based off of conventional 240 plugs. It's turning into cell phones all over again, but the difference is that a cell phone charger was a few dollars. Adapters capable of handling rapid charging loads are going to run several hundred a piece.[/QUOTE] You're a few years late. The EU has already mandated type 2 for AC charging, and a direvtive to use CCS for DC charging. I also don't think an AC version of CHAdeMO exists? Ionity is also CCS based.