China Invents Rice That Can Grow in Salt Water, Can Feed Over 200 Million People
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[QUOTE]Tests on saline-alkali tolerant rice have been going on in China for some time, but the unexpected yield marks its readiness for commercialization.
Research leader Yuan Longping, also known as China’s “Father of Hybrid Rice,” told reporters that cultivation of the strain can feed more than 200 million people, the South China Morning Post noted.
“Yuan Mi,” however, costs 50 yuan ($7.50) per kilogram — about eight times more than the cost of ordinary rice. It is currently sold in 1-kilogram (2.2 pounds), 2-kilogram (4.4 pounds), 5-kilogram (11 pounds) and 10-kilogram (22 pounds) packs.
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[url]https://nextshark.com/china-invents-rice-can-grow-salt-water-can-feed-200-million-people/[/url]
Welcome to the rice fields
Will it taste salty tho?
Chinese dominance is coming, I'm telling ya.
[QUOTE=Solomon;52815050]Chinese dominance is coming, I'm telling ya.[/QUOTE]
Not really. Their economy is likely about to implode.
But this is pretty big, if you could farm the coastlines around the world, you could kick world-hunger in the dick.
[QUOTE=St33m;52815052]Not really. Their economy is likely about to implode.
But this is pretty big, if you could farm the coastlines around the world, you could kick world-hunger in the dick.[/QUOTE]
it's expensive though
It costs 8 times the money as normal rice does though, so commercially it might not be very feasible right now. Could very well come in handy when our ravenous fishing destroys the ocean economy and climate change starts killing crops in certain freshwater areas. And China being what it is, might just go ahead and grow it anyway.
So this would enable us to pour fertilizer directly into the oceans. Still cool though.
From the article:
[quote=NextShark]Despite the hefty price tag, six tons of the strain have been sold since August, thanks to its impressive flavor and texture.[/quote]
[quote=NextShark]In addition, consumers are reportedly keen on its potential health benefits.
According to Xinhua, the strain could be rich in calcium and other micronutrients, as such are abundant in saline water.
The property of salt as a disinfectant could also repel pathogenic bacteria, making “sea rice” less exposed to pests. As a result, farmers may decrease their use of pesticides.
Yuan Ce Biological Technology expects to make 10 million yuan ($1.5 million) in “sea rice” revenue by the end of the year. Prices are expected to fall as production increases.[/quote]
I'm always skeptical of these "potential health" benefits.
[QUOTE=Noob4life;52815103]From the article:
I'm always skeptical of these "potential health" benefits.[/QUOTE]
'medicinal ivory' comes to mind :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Noob4life;52815103]I'm always skeptical of these "potential health" benefits.[/QUOTE]
The chinese are notoriously goofy about alleged medicinal effects of anything ranging from mundane everyday shit to powdered tiger penises. So it's probably bullshit.
Also its not "Now we can plant rice in sea water"
Its 1 part seawater 5 part fresh water
[QUOTE=Lazore;52815185]Also its not "Now we can plant rice in sea water"
Its 1 part seawater 5 part fresh water[/QUOTE]
so it's we can now plant rice in brackish. not any less of an innovation
that includes most bays, estuaries, mangrove swamps, and the Baltic sea
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52815060]It costs 8 times the money as normal rice does though, so commercially it might not be very feasible right now. Could very well come in handy when our ravenous fishing destroys the ocean economy and climate change starts killing crops in certain freshwater areas. And China being what it is, might just go ahead and grow it anyway.[/QUOTE]
Only because not much is being made and there are loads of people wanting to buy fashionable rice with "magical" health benefits.
watch nobody have any of the fears they had with golden rice
there are some serious problems with using salt water even if the plant can take it though because you're salting the soil.
[QUOTE=Sableye;52815333]watch nobody have any of the fears they had with golden rice
there are some serious problems with using salt water even if the plant can take it though because you're salting the soil.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure it's intended to be used where saltwater is already present, rather than transporting and dumping saltwater on otherwise fertile land.
China has rice made out of 30% organic plant matter and 70% plastic.
Mothers milk made out of pure synthetic chemicals, known to kill new born babies.
Just LOTS of fucked up bootleg versions of food.
The fact the researchers nickname is "Father of Hybrid Rice" I'm skeptical at best.
What is this made out of exactly?
Crops that can grow in brackish water likely mean more crops grown on or near the coast. Though I don't know anything about rice and how much fertilizer it requires, or if it would be any better or worse than having a huge farm up river spewing agricultural runoff everywhere.
Feeding more people is good, building more crops on the coast is probably bad.
Agriculture is the environmental elephant in the room.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52815575]I'm sure it's intended to be used where saltwater is already present, rather than transporting and dumping saltwater on otherwise fertile land.[/QUOTE]
this IS china we're talking about, they have a crippling water shortage in their farming regions. dont put it past somebody to start pumping salt water in as a cure all
I wonder if they did this through cross-breeding in an increasing salty environment over many years or if some Chinese genetic science going on.
[QUOTE=St33m;52815052]Not really. Their economy is likely about to implode.
But this is pretty big, if you could farm the coastlines around the world, you could kick world-hunger in the dick.[/QUOTE]
Their growth is slowing, not collapsing lol.
Their GDP growth is still at a high of of 6.5-7%, and countries can sustain themselves at 2% growth very comfortably, like the United States, which has the strongest economy in the world.
Currently their biggest problem is trying to avoid the middle-income trap many developing countries find themselves in after a large period growing, such as Brazil. It's incredibly hard for them to become fully developed because of this. Right now they're tackling this by forcing growth in the housing market - something that was looking like it would stabilize soon rather than keep growing.
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The Chinese government is essentially run by economists, they know what they're doing. And they know that they can grow at a massive pace forever, and it's starting look like the slowdown is beginning, so they're gearing up hard.
This is also why you seem them flexing their muscles around the sea near them, getting into confrontations with India, bringing the hammer down on foreign firms, and most importantly of Xi Jinping's plans: absolutely curbstomping corruption. They have ousted an incredibly amount of high ranking officials, something really not seen before Xi became General Secretary, and he's likely to become Chairman soon too.
[QUOTE=Solomon;52815050]Chinese dominance is coming, I'm telling ya.[/QUOTE]
China has too many cultures that don't want to be Chinese for them to dominate anyone else right now. They're too focused on assimilation instead of integration.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52815756]Their growth is slowing, not collapsing lol.
Their GDP growth is still at a high of of 6.5-7%, and countries can sustain themselves at 2% growth very comfortably, like the United States, which has the strongest economy in the world.
Currently their biggest problem is trying to avoid the middle-income trap many developing countries find themselves in after a large period growing, such as Brazil. It's incredibly hard for them to become fully developed because of this. Right now they're tackling this by forcing growth in the housing market - something that was looking like it would stabilize soon rather than keep growing.[/QUOTE]
Well i am [b]NOT[/b] an expert. So the chinese economy might go along more or less fine. But there are some worrying signs that their growth is phony. I don't know about my sources, but they are basically news-segments and articles that i can't really be assed to dig back out now, but search 'chinese economy collapse' into google and youtube and you'll find some compelling breakdown's of what is apparently happening.
The gist of my supposition is that it's becoming clear that china is just building things into infinity- Major completely new towns in china that are designed to harbor millions only have thousands of people living in them. Huge swathes of malls, skyscrapers, brand-new apartment complexes are just standing empty. And they're still building new ones. Nobody can afford to inhabit these properties, and the prices of them are still rising. So i suspect that the chinese government is so blind in reaching their projected GDP-goals that they are creating completely hollow and unsubstantiated growth. Products nobody buys, property nobody rents- etc. And if that bubble bursts, the chinese economy is fucking toast. But i hope you're right and that doesn't happen, because who knows what sort of ramifications that might have.
[QUOTE=OvB;52815605]Crops that can grow in brackish water likely mean more crops grown on or near the coast. Though I don't know anything about rice and how much fertilizer it requires, or if it would be any better or worse than having a huge farm up river spewing agricultural runoff everywhere.
Feeding more people is good, building more crops on the coast is probably bad.
Agriculture is the environmental elephant in the room.[/QUOTE]
I mean your avatar alone reminds me that if this picks up there's going to be some species who use coastlines for reproduction that will get thoroughly fucked as more and more of the coast becomes used for farming.
[QUOTE=Noob4life;52815103]I'm always skeptical of these "potential health" benefits.[/QUOTE]
I mean,
[quote]the strain could be rich in calcium and other micronutrients, as such are abundant in saline water.[/quote]
rice that grows in harsh conditions and contains calcium or other nutrients would be a tad healthier than normal rice, but the chemistry of it all is probably hard to give figures on it right now because they've been using pretty controlled portions instead of 100% salt water, though over time and some good old fashioned genetic engineering, the strain should become resilient to more and more saline water and show some interesting changes
[QUOTE=dannass;52815604]China has rice made out of 30% organic plant matter and 70% plastic.
Mothers milk made out of pure synthetic chemicals, known to kill new born babies.
Just LOTS of fucked up bootleg versions of food.
The fact the researchers nickname is "Father of Hybrid Rice" I'm skeptical at best.
What is this made out of exactly?[/QUOTE]
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan_Longpin]do some research[/url] instead of assuming it's some rando calling himself an expert
that shit is the product of back alley impoverished scammers and small private manufacturers doing their best to make a buck for the least effort/cost of production. gutter oil mongers aren't suddenly going to spend a bunch of money and section off otherwise viable land for years of lengthy potentially unyielding irrigation tests on a broad spectrum of rice strains, they're gonna add more plastic to their white mush pellets and call it a day
[QUOTE=St33m;52815116]The chinese are notoriously goofy about alleged medicinal effects of anything ranging from mundane everyday shit to powdered tiger penises. So it's probably bullshit.[/QUOTE]
They're scientists, not randos who bought ground rhino horn to get their dick hard.
[QUOTE=St33m;52815052]Not really. Their economy is likely about to implode. [/QUOTE]
People have been saying this for at least ten years now, I'm still waiting for that imploding.
[QUOTE=Vasili;52816005]People have been saying this for at least ten years now, I'm still waiting for that imploding.[/QUOTE]
Well if they keep saying it every year, one year they will be right and say "I told you so"
[QUOTE=Lazore;52815185]Also its not "Now we can plant rice in sea water"
Its 1 part seawater 5 part fresh water[/QUOTE]
for that you would need combined this strain with mangroove genes
the outcome would be fascinating
[QUOTE=Kljunas;52815946]They're scientists, not randos who bought ground rhino horn to get their dick hard.[/QUOTE]
yes but then there's the whole GMO paranoia which is a hundred times worse in asia than in western countries
From the comments:
[QUOTE]The headline is very misleading. They discovered that a particular strain of saltwater rice produced much larger yields than expected and started to commercialize it. It's not an "invention". Also, as already mentioned by other commenters, saline-resistant rice already exist with the Pokkali being the most recognized commercially-viable variety.
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