• Disney Delay ‘Star Wars: Episode 9’ Release Date By Seven Months
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[t]https://theplaylist.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/star-wars-the-force-awakens-john-boyega-j-j-abrams-1024x520.jpg[/t] [quote]As a poet once said: Toldja. Just this morning, news arrived that “Star Wars: Episode IX” now has a director, with J.J. Abrams being persuaded, by what is presumably an amount of money equivalent to the GDP of a Baltic state, to return to the director’s chair recently vacated by Colin Trevorrow. And, towards the end of the piece, we wrote: “We’ll see if Abrams can be the first director to make two good ‘Star Wars’ movies when ‘Episode IX’ opens, if it doesn’t get delayed (spoiler: it DEFINITELY will), on May 24th, 2019.”[/quote] Source: [url]https://theplaylist.net/star-wars-episode-9-release-date-20170912/[/url]
Well, if it's late it's only for a few months, if it's terrible then it is forever. Let him have all the time he needs.
[QUOTE]“We’ll see if Abrams can be the first director to make two good ‘Star Wars’ movies when ‘Episode IX’ opens”[/QUOTE] so is he doing episode 10 too or
We all knew this was coming when they fired Trevorrow. I would have been worried if they had done that and not delayed it, frankly
I hope JJ will benefit greatly from Johnson and no longer having to be scared shitless of playing it safe. I liked EP 7, felt like a good intro to the new trilogy and while it did feel like a repeat, it introduced great characters.
besides all this, give rian johnson a hecking break lol the guy must be tired af and he still hs and will be working on star wars 8 until it screens, and episode 9 must be work on yesterday so its impossible to him to start working on two projects and tired.
Why do people think Abrams "is to blame" for VII being a remake? Did you forget Lucasfilm firing the Toy Story writer and getting Kasdan who has nothing to his name except Empire and Raiders? It was pretty obviously Lucasfilm's idea to make the film the way it was. Hiring a director who's known for a successful in-universe reboot (Star Trek) and an 80's homage film "before it was cool" (Super 8) only makes sense.
i really don't have that much of a problem with TFA being a soft reboot, honestly. Considering the fact that you have to keep reintroducing this story to a new target audience, TFA could have been a lot worse, and even though it's obviously built off the blueprint of ANH it still adds to and moves the story along. However I'm also partial to allowing what happens in the story to happen without being upset about it, sure, certain scenes I would have wished went a different direction or something, but I'm really sick of seeing places where people unceremoniously dump on TFA as if it was personally responsible for apartheid
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;52675979]Considering the fact that you have to keep reintroducing this story to a new target audience[/QUOTE] Pretending millions of kids today haven't seen the original Star Wars films with their families, Disney could have made the 7th Star Wars movie a good starting point without making it a cynical ripoff of the OT. When you were a kid you didn't wish upon a star that the sequel to ROTJ would be this cookie cutter cash grab. All signs point to 8 having the same problems. Can you tell me what The Force Awakens added to the Star Wars mythos?
felt like it the original release date would be too soon before the previous movie... back to the usual december release date, no complaints... hopefully the reshoots won't make it a horrifying confusing mess like rogue one was
[QUOTE=dillspears;52677374]Pretending millions of kids today haven't seen the original Star Wars films with their families, Disney could have made the 7th Star Wars movie a good starting point without making it a cynical ripoff of the OT. When you were a kid you didn't wish upon a star that the sequel to ROTJ would be this cookie cutter cash grab. All signs point to 8 having the same problems. Can you tell me what The Force Awakens added to the Star Wars mythos?[/QUOTE] As a 20 year old, a good portion of my friends and myself haven't watched Star Wars outside of the prequels. You've gotta realise that a lot of kids going to watch this were born post-Revenge of the Sith and a lot of young adults and teens grew up with the original trilogy as their "Star Wars." Sure, some parents might show their kids the original trilogy, but I don't think that it's as widespread a cultural phenomena as you think, at least among the younger audiences like myself.
I don't know about you guys, but I feel I've hit a point were I went from hating on the prequels to loving them faults and all. I can't even say that I like it ironically either.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;52677546]I don't know about you guys, but I feel I've hit a point were I went from hating on the prequels to loving them faults and all. I can't even say that I like it ironically either.[/QUOTE] Nah. The prequels suck just as much as they did when they came out. Arguably, they're even worse in retrospective - I can never look at them the same way after watching the Plinkett reviews.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;52677546]I don't know about you guys, but I feel I've hit a point were I went from hating on the prequels to loving them faults and all. I can't even say that I like it ironically either.[/QUOTE] Prequels at least felt like they had an universe behind them. FA doesn't dwell enough into the politics of the galaxy to make it feel like the war between empire and rebellion ever ended. I mean, even New Hope had some dialouge between Vader and some of the officials about the viability of their planet destroying weapon.
I don't think it's fair to declare the prequels categorically garbage. There are a lot of good ideas in the prequels and they have many enjoyable moments and visually rewarding scenes. But the story-glue that holds them together is weak, they're overreliant on dated CGI that didn't age well rather than the OT's practical effects and rotoscoping that still hold up (insofar as not looking uncanny goes), the humor is oftentimes overtly childish and off-putting, and overall, bad decisions abound. But they're worth a watch and it's fun to talk about how they could be improved. I think they were very nearly very good but missed the mark. There's a fan recut of all three that improves the experience drastically in my opinion, I forgot what it's called though. I would love to see Disney do a more serious re-cut themselves with updated CGI, though I doubt it'll ever happen. Regardless they're watchable and I have fond memories of them.
The thing that bothers me the most about Disney's Star Wars is that it threw away 30 + years of storyline that happened after ROTJ (Thrawn Trilogy, Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series, and replaced it with a more mediocre storyline that is neither original nor reboots the old storylines. The problem with the Force Awkens is that it isn't all that memorable and doesn't stand on itself. If I asked you to quote 3 lines from the original trilogy you could do that in an instant If I asked you to quote 3 lines from the prequels you would laugh and do that too, no problem. But if asked you to quote 3 lines from the Force Awakens, you'd probably sit there quietly. The new Star Wars films don't have anything memorable about them. Everything's forgettable. There's no characters who you wanted to see what happened to next like Han Solo or Luke Skywalker, no actors who made the film worth watching like Christopher Lee, or Ewan McGregor. The original cast didn't seem to have any love for what they were doing, Harrison Ford seemed like he didn't want to be there. Maybe I've just gotten old and cynical but there's something missing from TFA and will probably still be missing from the Last Jedi.
I like TFA as an pretty entertaining movie, but there's just stuff that doesn't work in it, like the villains being laughable, and so many basic timeline questions are left unanswered and distract you, like how the hell did the rebellion go from winning in the Return of the Jedi to becoming "The Resistance"? Thats why the TFA doesn't feel satisfying, the situation of the heroes is back to square one, it's like the original trilogy never happened and its whole narrative and emotionnal arc lead to nothing. They could have made a more interesting setup. Rogue One was such a superior movie to TFA, because it wasn't setting stuff up for next movies and is a very self contained satisfying plot.
I don't know guys. Force Awakens isn't great, but there were lines that were pretty memorable (saw it twice). "I'm a big deal in the resistance" and "Mr. Solo" "That's not how the force works!" "Do I talk first?" The criticism towards Kylo Ren is something I'll never understand. Yes he's not Darth Vader, yes he looks like a dopey kid, yes he's a crybaby - that's the point. He has major self-confidence and image issues, it's spelled out in the film ("you're afraid you'll never be as great as Darth Vader"). That's his whole deal. The mask that's a space-opera alternative to sunglasses during nighttime. You get the point
[QUOTE=Mr. Sarcastic;52679869]The thing that bothers me the most about Disney's Star Wars is that it threw away 30 + years of storyline that happened after ROTJ (Thrawn Trilogy, Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series, and replaced it with a more mediocre storyline that is neither original nor reboots the old storylines.[/QUOTE] The EU at that point, while it had some shining moments, was still filled with some of the most ridiculous bullshit. Do we really need to talk about Luuke? The various emperor clones? The Yuuzhan Vong? Giant space otters? If you were to explain the continuity to someone who had only paid attention to the movies at that time, their head would spin. [editline]14th September 2017[/editline] TFA wiped the slate clean and played it safe. Artistically, it's kind of boring, sure, but when you're rebooting a franchise that had slowly become a laughing stock and a shadow of it's former self, they needed to do that.
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