Nintendo Creators Program Updates Terms, No Longer Allows Live-Streaming on Youtube - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote=Nintendo]"Live streaming on YouTube falls outside the scope of the Nintendo Creators Program. You cannot broadcast content on YouTube Live from the account you have registered to the Nintendo Creators Program. If you plan to broadcast content on YouTube Live, you have a couple of options. First, you can broadcast content on YouTube Live from a channel that is not registered to the Nintendo Creators Program. Or, you can cancel your channel's registration to the Nintendo Creators Program and instead, register your videos containing Nintendo’s IP to the program separately. Videos which had previously been registered through your channel would need to be re-registered individually."[/quote] [url=https://gonintendo.com/stories/291592-nintendo-creators-program-updates-terms-no-longer-allows-live-st]Article[/url]. [url=https://r.ncp.nintendo.net/guide/]Nintendo's updated terms[/url]. Looks like this could be the start of Nintendo cracking down on live streams in some way.

Why are they being so pointlessly moronic about this?

I'm a huge weirdo and usually defend Nintendo to the death, but this sentence here [quote] If you plan to broadcast content on YouTube Live, you have a couple of options. First, you can broadcast content on YouTube Live from a channel that is not registered to the Nintendo Creators Program.[/quote] I don't see the problem? Maybe I don't know enough about Youtube monetization to make a clear call but it reaches a compromise for whatever the hell Nintendo is going for here. I think it's dumb they're putting their foot down and require some more explanation as to why but at least they're not outright banning people in this program from livestreams.

[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;52729558]I'm a huge weirdo and usually defend Nintendo to the death, but this sentence here I don't see the problem? Maybe I don't know enough about Youtube monetization to make a clear call but it reaches a compromise for whatever the hell Nintendo is going for here. I think it's dumb they're putting their foot down and require some more explanation as to why but at least they're not outright banning people in this program from livestreams.[/QUOTE] Why would you even need to be in nintendo's program? people think it's mandatory but it isn't, you can be outside nintendo's shitty practices and still stream your game.

[QUOTE=eirexe;52729584]Why would you even need to be in nintendo's program? people think it's mandatory but it isn't, you can be outside nintendo's shitty practices and still stream your game.[/QUOTE] Can't you not make any money if you're not in Nintendo's Creators Program?

[QUOTE=TectoImprov;52729623]Can't you not make any money if you're not in Nintendo's Creators Program?[/QUOTE] only because they are scumbagging DMCA takedowns

What if you don't accept the terms ?

[QUOTE=TectoImprov;52729623]Can't you not make any money if you're not in Nintendo's Creators Program?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Itsjustguy;52729633]What if you don't accept the terms ?[/QUOTE] Nintendo likes to flag for monetization on people outside the program, and take all the revenue.

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;52729556]Why are they being so pointlessly moronic about this?[/QUOTE] Because from a business standpoint some guy is showing your entire product for free for millions to see

Nintendo are assholes and people will still buy their products like mad and let them get away with this.

twitch is where all the money is anyways

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;52729556]Why are they being so pointlessly moronic about this?[/QUOTE] This is probably a response to the Pewdiepie incident, where they don't want the next Pewdiepie-style steaming incident to be potentially be attached to a Nintendo game.

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52729686]This is probably a response to the Pewdiepie incident, where they don't want the next Pewdiepie-style steaming incident to be potentially be attached to a Nintendo game.[/QUOTE] I don't blame them, after some Splatoon 2 Salmon Run I've had teammates so stupid that I've shouted things that would have put me on a government watch list and banned from any line of work Joking aside this is pretty stupid, and it doesn't help that they're doing this at the same time YouTube is shitting on creators either

[QUOTE=redBadger;52729674]Nintendo are assholes and people will still buy their products like mad and let them get away with this.[/QUOTE]R&D and Legal are totally different worlds; the latter probably playing a huge part in this. I love Nintendo to death but these anti-consumer practices need to die down or just stop all together, and the way to do that is make their legal team simmer down which I can't see happening any time soon.

[QUOTE=redBadger;52729674]Nintendo are assholes and people will still buy their products like mad and let them get away with this.[/QUOTE] It's shit but it's not preventing me from buying and enjoying their games, wtf. Do you expect me to not buy Super Mario Odyssey or their other games because of this?

If they're smart (relatively speaking), they're only doing this because they plan on releasing some sort of recording functionalities or Twitch integration to the Switch very soon and will be updating the terms once that happens. But given how the Creators Program has been, and the reactions to it, it's likely they're just shooting themselves in the foot. They should really take a note from other companies and have a more hands-off approach towards content creators, and maybe even encourage some of their own employees to do some more frequent game-streaming of their own.

[QUOTE=BrandoJack;52729837]If they're smart (relatively speaking), they're only doing this because they plan on releasing some sort of recording functionalities or Twitch integration to the Switch very soon and will be updating the terms once that happens. But given how the Creators Program has been, and the reactions to it, it's likely they're just shooting themselves in the foot. They should really take a note from other companies and have a more hands-off approach towards content creators, and maybe even encourage some of their own employees to do some more frequent game-streaming of their own.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be surprised if video capture on the Switch is being delayed because of conflict between R&D and Legal, seems like a big area where they would clash

[QUOTE=Antimuffin;52729784]It's shit but it's not preventing me from buying and enjoying their games, wtf. Do you expect me to not buy Super Mario Odyssey or their other games because of this?[/QUOTE] I don't get people, they always say if a company is scummy you should not buy their products, but at the same they say that "since it doesn't affect the game it doesn't matter".

[QUOTE=redBadger;52729674]Nintendo are assholes and people will still buy their products like mad and let them get away with this.[/QUOTE] b-but mario and nostalgia gaming [editline]29th September 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Antimuffin;52729784]It's shit but it's not preventing me from buying and enjoying their games, wtf. Do you expect me to not buy Super Mario Odyssey or their other games because of this?[/QUOTE] oh my god

The creator program is just nintendo as a publisher exerting control upon mostly the very people who praise or care about nintendo so much. Videos of Fans playing Fan Games taken down to protect their IP for example.Content creators who have previously been able to post Nintendo videos and have fanbases around that have less flexibility in how they monetise them through their partners now that they are completely fucked unless they go through nintendo. It's less viable to make a living if you are exclusively making pokemon videos or mario videos on rom hacks or anything that runs under Nintendo IP. The fact that you are recording/streaming on their content should have nothing to do with it, Nintendo forget that alot of these people sell their game for them to a degree. I know i've been tempted to get BOTW and a Switch after watching a couple of my subscribed channels played them. Not only that, alot of those channels bought a switch, they paid for a copy of the game. Nintendo got their cut infact Nintendo ought to be paying content creators, they ought to be hiring these people who have genuine passion of their games to the point where they make complete remakes. Instead they opt for the nuclear method. Publishers like Microsoft,Activision and EA know that these people sell the games, it's why when we hear of a Battlefield 1 reveal or a Call of Duty reveal, any form of gameplay reveal that these youtube personalities are attached to the game and they get as many of them as they can. These youtubers with hundreds of thousands to millions of subscribers. It's pure overkill what nintendo have done but it doesn't surprise me after the stuff i've heard about the Metroid 2 remake. They are punishing the very people who they should be praising for their creativity. [QUOTE=SpartanXC9;52729671]Because from a business standpoint some guy is showing your entire product for free for millions to see[/QUOTE] Playing a game which intrinsically involves interaction is a bit different to watching someone play a video game. If your game is vapid to the point where that's the case then you haven't made a game, you've made a movie.

[QUOTE=redBadger;52729674]Nintendo are assholes and people will still buy their products like mad and let them get away with this.[/QUOTE] what? Are you saying I shouldn't buy Breath of the wild because of YouTube rules? That sucks for them but it doesn't affect me.

[QUOTE=Orkel;52730240]b-but mario and nostalgia gaming [editline]29th September 2017[/editline] oh my god[/QUOTE] "Oh my god" what? If I want to play Nintendo games then what else are we supposed to do? Nobody is going to protest enough for them to care. I imagine a huge chunk of people who buy Nintendo games don't even know about this and that's where their income would actually be damaged by a protest. I also don't even know what "nostalgia gaming" is supposed to mean? The first thing I think of is that the games are only good out of nostalgia and not because they're genuinely good? If not, what does that even mean?

[QUOTE=Orkel;52730240]b-but mario and nostalgia gaming [editline]29th September 2017[/editline] oh my god[/QUOTE] Good old "Nintendo fans are delusional blind fanboys". Who even needs an argument when you can just go "ur dumb"? I thought "the more dismissive I am of the other guy, the more right I am!" was supposed to be for /v/ posters. You'll excuse me if I'm not going to boycott a company that makes good games because they're dicks over YouTube. Please explain to me why I should. Liking a company because they're good at making games while being completely aware that they're backwards dumbasses in many fields while having an asshole legal department is apparently just too complicated an idea for those poor delusional nostalgia-whore Nintendo fanboys, appears to be the point you're making.

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;52729671]Because from a business standpoint some guy is showing your entire product for free for millions to see[/QUOTE] From a business standpoint that doesn't make any sense because that goes against the very nature of advertising. How else are you supposed to know how a game plays without seeing footage of it or without having the console to experience a demo of the game? [editline]30th September 2017[/editline] Are you saying that no gaming content should be allowed on YouTube?

[QUOTE=kariko;52730683]I also don't even know what "nostalgia gaming" is supposed to mean? The first thing I think of is that the games are only good out of nostalgia and not because they're genuinely good? If not, what does that even mean?[/QUOTE] That's basically it. Nintendo games are apparently not good or innovative ("You're still fucking jumping on coins after 30 years!"), and kiddy franchises like Mario would have been put out to the woodshed 15 years ago if it wasn't for all of Nintendo's manbaby fans who want to forever be reminded of when they were six years old and played Super Mario World in their little Mario jammies. Also, they need to get laid. Edit: In case it wasn't clear, I don't actually think this myself. But I have seen this sentiment expressed, many many times.

Well that's dumb. Still can't wait to pick up my preorder of Super Mario Odyssey!

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;52729556]Why are they being so pointlessly moronic about this?[/QUOTE] Complete and utter misunderstanding of a new market. Pretty bog standard for Nintendo actually.

[QUOTE=Orkel;52730240]b-but mario and nostalgia gaming [editline]29th September 2017[/editline] oh my god[/QUOTE] This has nothing to do with nostalgia gaming. The developers behind games as Zelda and Mario don't have anything to do with the business decisions done by lawyers and the other corporate guys at Nintendo that have a very outdated way of protecting their IPs. The devs developing their games develop the games and that's all. Why do you expect me to NOT buy the games and support the devs work? Because shit is hitting the fan somewhere else where the dev teams can't do much as it's not their working field? Should I stop using Steam just because Valve has become lazy as fuck when it comes to developing games? Or that they get a 30% cut, let Steam being flooded with shit games and make so many bad decisions concerning their games?

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;52729671]Because from a business standpoint some guy is showing your entire product for free for millions to see[/QUOTE] I've watched gameplay videos from three games pretty much: MW2 (yeah I know), FO3 and Dota 2. Those are also the games I've played the most. Maybe some people watch gameplay vids as a replacement, but I'm gonna say it's much more likely that people watch videos of games they're interested in - games they play themselves.

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;52729671]Because from a business standpoint some guy is showing your entire product for free for millions to see[/QUOTE] Yea and most companies would kill for free exposure/advertising like that.