White nationalists stage anti-refugee protests in Tennessee - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE]SHELBYVILLE, Tenn. (Reuters) - About 300 white nationalists and neo-Nazis held back-to-back rallies in two small Tennessee cities on Saturday to protest refugee resettlement in the state, which sued the federal government over the issue earlier this year. The “White Lives Matter” rallies in Shelbyville and Murfreesboro, organized by some of the same groups involved in a Virginia march that turned violent in August, drew an equal number of counter-demonstrators and a heavy police presence. The protesters started in Shelbyville, then traveled about 35 miles north to Murfreesboro for a second rally. Both towns are near Nashville, center of a metropolitan area has become home to refugees from Somalia, Iraq and elsewhere. “We don’t want the federal government to keep dumping all these refugees into middle Tennessee,” said Brad Griffin, a member of a group known as the League of the South who has written about his desire to create a white “ethnostate.” Saturday’s rallies were organized by the Nationalist Front coalition, which embraces groups considered neo-Nazi or neo-Confederate by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups. To help keep the peace, Shelbyville police used temporary fencing to separate the white nationalists from counter-demonstrators. Anyone seeking to enter the area was searched. Guns, backpacks, sticks and other items that might double as weapons were banned. The white nationalist demonstrators gathered behind a half dozen white shields emblazoned with red crosses. Counter-protesters carried signs with slogans including “Don’t Hate” and “Veterans for Peace.” Two lines of police, some in riot gear, stood between the two sides, who shouted at each other.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tennessee-protests/white-nationalists-stage-anti-refugee-protests-in-tennessee-idUSKBN1CX0BZ?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=59f4690e04d30120ae9d49ff&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook"]Reuters.[/URL]

I wonder what these guys would be doing if they were running from a country in war. It's despicable that people who have lived in a country that has only known peace for the past decades would be so volatile towards people who don't want to live in a country that has been in war for the past decade, let alone never meeting them. Of course these are the same who would wish death upon a good many people they've never known, so I wouldn't be surprised. They'd be the same people who said "America First" less than a century ago.

[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52833571]I wonder what these guys would be doing if they were running from a country in war. It's despicable that people who have lived in a country that has only known peace for the past decades would be so volatile towards people who don't want to live in a country that has been in war for the past decade, let alone never meeting them. Of course these are the same who would wish death upon a good many people they've never known, so I wouldn't be surprised. They'd be the same people who said "America First" less than a century ago.[/QUOTE] It is easier to make a scapegoat by using the old "scary foreigner with their foreign ways" trope than it is to actually work to fix a problem. What's the old saying - Ignorance breeds fear, and fear breeds hate.

[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52833571]I wonder what these guys would be doing if they were running from a country in war. It's despicable that people who have lived in a country that has only known peace for the past decades would be so volatile towards people who don't want to live in a country that has been in war for the past decade, let alone never meeting them. Of course these are the same who would wish death upon a good many people they've never known, so I wouldn't be surprised. They'd be the same people who said "America First" less than a century ago.[/QUOTE] Welcome to American Conservatism, where emotions and presuppositions are policy positions.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/HtVQRj2.png[/img] Adopting nazi symbology is an inherently unpatriotic act and shames all those veterans who fought and died in WWII against a regime which would have destroyed our nation if given the chance. Don't let these people pretend to be interested in upholding american values- They're not. They won't talk about it openly, but if they got into power they'd take your free speech, your right to assembly, your right to a fair trial, maybe even your right to vote for political representatives. They're shams and frauds who sometimes try to wrap themselves in the veil of patriotism, to confuse those who aren't smart enough to see through it. Truly they hate this country, and want to remake it in their own twisted vision.

Protesting refugees coming into the United States is possibly the most ineffective and dumbest thing you can protest. [URL="http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/05/u-s-admits-record-number-of-muslim-refugees-in-2016/"]Only around 38,000 Muslim refugees came into the United States last fiscal year, and that was a RECORD high, and was about the same number as Christian refugees (~37,000).[/URL] It really isn't a big matter, or anything worth protesting.

[quote]The “White Lives Matter” rallies[/quote] *insert loud groan with eye-rolling*

[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52833571]I wonder what these guys would be doing if they were running from a country in war. It's despicable that people who have lived in a country that has only known peace for the past decades would be so volatile towards people who don't want to live in a country that has been in war for the past decade, let alone never meeting them. Of course these are the same who would wish death upon a good many people they've never known, so I wouldn't be surprised. They'd be the same people who said "America First" less than a century ago.[/QUOTE] The states have been in constant wars since the 40's. It's funny that they are protesting against immigrants when in reality america took away their homes to feed their war machine. Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan

All the news stories I read this morning said these protests were either canceled or cut very short due to the overwhelming outcry against them. People did a lot of preparing for it though. Shops in the area boarded up their windows and closed for the day, but thankfully all that wasn't necessary

[QUOTE=froztshock;52833691][img]https://i.imgur.com/HtVQRj2.png[/img] Adopting nazi symbology is an inherently unpatriotic act and shames all those veterans who fought and died in WWII against a regime which would have destroyed our nation if given the chance. Don't let these people pretend to be interested in upholding american values- They're not. They won't talk about it openly, but if they got into power they'd take your free speech, your right to assembly, your right to a fair trial, maybe even your right to vote for political representatives. They're shams and frauds who sometimes try to wrap themselves in the veil of patriotism, to confuse those who aren't smart enough to see through it. Truly they hate this country, and want to remake it in their own twisted vision.[/QUOTE] These people believe that WW2 veterans are traitors for fighting "the wrong enemy"

[media]https://twitter.com/indivisible_tn7/status/924431718626611200[/media] Look at these nazi scrubs who get outnumbered by residents of a town with ~20,000 people. Can't even organize a sizable protest right. Good thing nobody brought a car this time. [editline]29th October 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Araknid;52833824]These people believe that WW2 veterans are traitors for fighting "the wrong enemy"[/QUOTE] Some of these people probably have greatgrandparents or grandparents who fought in WW2. I'm sure they're making their families SO proud by shitting on their legacy like this.

[QUOTE=Araknid;52833824]These people believe that WW2 veterans are traitors for fighting "the wrong enemy"[/QUOTE] They don't even know/believe what "the wrong enemy" was fucking doing to innocent people, do they? These "people" should be brought together and be shown footage and photographs of the aftermath of what the Nazis were responsible for. [IMG]https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/German-soldiers-react-to-footage-of-concentration-camps-1945-small.jpg[/IMG] Or would they just say it was all staged to vilify the Nazi party?

[QUOTE=Callinstead;52833865]They don't even know/believe what "the wrong enemy" was fucking doing to innocent people, do they? These "people" should be brought together and be shown footage and photographs of the aftermath of what the Nazis were responsible for. [IMG]https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/German-soldiers-react-to-footage-of-concentration-camps-1945-small.jpg[/IMG] Or would they just say it was all staged to vilify the Nazi party?[/QUOTE] At this point you're more likely to get /pol/ talking points about how the Jews deserved it than "fake news".

If they can look at a picture of a mass grave or a train wagon filled with horrifically anguished human remains and say "they deserved it" then they really are enemies of the human race. I really wish some people weren't this misguided.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52833858][media]https://twitter.com/indivisible_tn7/status/924431718626611200[/media] Look at these nazi scrubs who get outnumbered by residents of a town with ~20,000 people. Can't even organize a sizable protest right. Good thing nobody brought a car this time. [editline]29th October 2017[/editline] Some of these people probably have greatgrandparents or grandparents who fought in WW2. I'm sure they're making their families SO proud by shitting on their legacy like this.[/QUOTE] This is good to see. Assholes like these should remain the minority if we're to move forward as a nation.

What a fucking waste of time and space

[QUOTE=Araknid;52833824]These people believe that WW2 veterans are traitors for fighting "the wrong enemy"[/QUOTE] You're assuming their thought process advances that far. These people are dumb as bricks for countless reasons, a few already pointed out here.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52833888]At this point you're more likely to get /pol/ talking points about how the Jews deserved it than "fake news".[/QUOTE] White nationalists don't really seem to have a preference for one over the other. Whatever gets the job done is usually good enough.

[QUOTE=Callinstead;52833865]They don't even know/believe what "the wrong enemy" was fucking doing to innocent people, do they? These "people" should be brought together and be shown footage and photographs of the aftermath of what the Nazis were responsible for. [IMG]https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/German-soldiers-react-to-footage-of-concentration-camps-1945-small.jpg[/IMG] Or would they just say it was all staged to vilify the Nazi party?[/QUOTE] Staged or that the Holocaust was only like, 300k dead and they died because of typhus and starvation that couldn't be contained because of the allies bombing railways supplying hitlers holiday camps that had swimming pools and football teams It all comes down to the allies being the fault of everything and not the regime that invaded almost all of Europe unprovoked

[QUOTE=Araknid;52834290]Staged or that the Holocaust was only like, 300k dead and they died because of typhus and starvation that couldn't be contained because of the allies bombing railways supplying hitlers holiday camps that had swimming pools and football teams It all comes down to the allies being the fault of everything and not the regime that invaded almost all of Europe unprovoked[/QUOTE] “But Dresden!”

[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52833571]I wonder what these guys would be doing if they were running from a country in war. It's despicable that people who have lived in a country that has only known peace for the past decades would be so volatile towards people who don't want to live in a country that has been in war for the past decade, let alone never meeting them. Of course these are the same who would wish death upon a good many people they've never known, so I wouldn't be surprised. They'd be the same people who said "America First" less than a century ago.[/QUOTE] Why should politically irrelevant small town america be forced to deal with refugees (who do not go back) resettled by virtue signalling policy makers that never actually live near them? Why should they tolerate this political inequality, potential tax burden, and depression on wages?

[QUOTE=Conscript;52834877]Why should politically irrelevant small town america be forced to deal with refugees (who do not go back) resettled by virtue signalling policy makers that never actually live near them? Why should they tolerate this political inequality, potential tax burden, and depression on wages?[/QUOTE] In your mind, is it possible to act out of compassion or empathy without it being 'virtue signalling'?

[QUOTE=Conscript;52834877]Why should politically irrelevant small town america be forced to deal with refugees (who do not go back) resettled by virtue signalling policy makers that never actually live near them? Why should they tolerate this political inequality, potential tax burden, and depression on wages?[/QUOTE] Because more immigrants correlates and causes more small business to sprout up and in general has a positive effect on macro, and micro economics in the "immigrated" area. The more immigrants the better off everyone is except in extreme cases such as India.

[QUOTE=CatFodder;52834901]In your mind, is it possible to act out of compassion or empathy without it being 'virtue signalling'?[/QUOTE] Not if it comes at someone else's expense which makes the gesture shallow. Its just something to tack onto a political legacy and abuse of worsening economic inequality changing the political balance of power between red states and blue states. It's easy to be compassionate when you never deal with the ramifications of your policies.

There are better ways to voice your concern with refugees than giving nazi salutes.

[QUOTE=Conscript;52834877]Why should politically irrelevant small town america be forced to deal with refugees (who do not go back) resettled by virtue signalling policy makers that never actually live near them? Why should they tolerate this political inequality, potential tax burden, and depression on wages?[/QUOTE] I said nothing of small towns being forced to deal with that. I would agree that forcing large densities of refugees to small towns is absolutely not what should be done.

I live about 15 miles from Shelbyviille. Its good to see that these shitstains were drowned out by all the decent people who live in this area. [QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52833858][media]https://twitter.com/indivisible_tn7/status/924431718626611200[/media] Look at these nazi scrubs who get outnumbered by residents of a town with ~20,000 people. Can't even organize a sizable protest right. Good thing nobody brought a car this time. [/QUOTE] They just canceled the followup in Murfreesboro, cause like only a few dozen white nationalists showed up, and there was already a thousand counter-protestors waiting there for them.

[QUOTE=Conscript;52834937]Not if it comes at someone else's expense which makes the gesture shallow. Its just something to tack onto a political legacy and abuse of worsening economic inequality changing the political balance of power between red states and blue states. It's easy to be compassionate when you never deal with the ramifications of your policies.[/QUOTE] Don't immigrants have a positive economic impact?

[QUOTE=Conscript;52834877]Why should politically irrelevant small town america be forced to deal with refugees (who do not go back) resettled by virtue signalling policy makers that never actually live near them? Why should they tolerate this political inequality, potential tax burden, and depression on wages?[/QUOTE] You're playing a dangerous game here, Conscript.

[QUOTE=Conscript;52834877]Why should politically irrelevant small town america be forced to deal with refugees (who do not go back) resettled by virtue signalling policy makers that never actually live near them? Why should they tolerate this political inequality, potential tax burden, and depression on wages?[/QUOTE] So do you have proof that the approximately 1,200 refugees a year moved into the city of Nashville and nearby areas over the course of 15 years and who account for less than 1% of the state's population given in the article have actually had a negative impact on the economy of Tennessee? Isn't an increase of about 1,200 people a year fucking [I]tiny?[/I] The population of Nashville is 684,410 people currently, so this figure would put those 1,200 refugees a year at an increase of approximately 0.1753% increase over the original population a year for Nashville alone, less if you take the population of the entire state of Tennessee. Are you really, [I]really[/I] sure that 0.1753% is actually capable of causing the problems you've outlined? The average yearly population growth from births alone must be significantly higher than that figure. According to [url=https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SPDYNCBRTINUSA]this[/url], the average number of births per thousand people for year in the United States is 12.4, so if we take that for the population of [I]Nashville alone[/I], we get an increase of 8486.684 babies a year, a figure that is [I]seven times greater[/I] than the number of refugees entering the state yearly, for [I]the city of Nashville alone, NOT the entire state of Tennessee.[/I] If you've got economic problems I'm not sure if joining hands with the Nazis and yelling for the refugees to be kicked out will really solve 'em...