• Russia Threatens to Block YouTube and Instagram, After Complaints From an Oligarch
    14 replies, posted
[QUOTE] Russia has threatened to block YouTube and Instagram if they do not take down videos and photos relating to Oleg V. Deripaska, an oligarch who was once close to President Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort. A billionaire aluminum and mining magnate, Mr. Deripaska was the subject of an investigation published last Thursday on YouTube by the anticorruption activist and opposition leader Aleksei A. Navalny. Mr. Navalny’s team scoured social media accounts belonging to a 21-year-old Belarus-born blogger, Anastasia Vashukevich, who posted videos in 2016 that showed Mr. Deripaska sailing on his yacht around Norway with a deputy prime minister, Sergei E. Prikhodko. At one point, Mr. Deripaska appears to be explaining to the blogger why relations between Russia and the United States are so bad. (Mr. Deripaska was an investor in a private equity firm controlled by Mr. Manafort, but the two men had a falling out.) Ms. Vashukevich had written a tell-all book about her career as a model and escort, and claimed that a modeling agency hired her to spend time on Mr. Deripaska’s yacht. But her claims did not get widespread attention until Mr. Navalny’s inquiry was published. Mr. Deripaska quickly filed a lawsuit, in the town of Ust-Labinsk in Russia’s southern Krasnodar region, a place where he went to school and pays taxes. “It wasn’t me who sailed on a yacht, it wasn’t me who hired prostitutes for fun, it wasn’t me who took bribes from an oligarch in the form of airplane flights and expensive cruises,” Navalny said on Monday, “but the singular, lightning-fast attack of the government is directed against me and my foundation, who exposed the corruption. This is a war of our dissemination against their blockage. And it’s one we have to win.” [/QUOTE] Source: [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/world/europe/russia-youtube-instagram-navalny.html"]The New York Times[/URL]
please russia dont do this you dont know what i'd do without my daily influx of ROAD RAGE W/INSTANT KARMA russian edition videos
[QUOTE=MoopsiePook;53127871]please russia dont do this you dont know what i'd do without my daily influx of ROAD RAGE W/INSTANT KARMA russian edition videos[/QUOTE] Liveleak, also of you're into more disturbing content than what Jake Paul offers you're set
[QUOTE=Megalan;53127860]Source: [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/world/europe/russia-youtube-instagram-navalny.html"]The New York Times[/URL][/QUOTE] I guess I shouldn't be entirely surprised. If I am correct, Navalny uses Youtube as his primary platform to communicate with his viewerbase. Removing Youtube makes his content less accessible. -- Although, does Russia even have its own popular version of Youtube? I know they have VK, but not sure of anything else really.
Oh wow, i wonder how much time it will take for people to bypass this block through means of really complicated vpn scheme[B]OH[/B] we got Tor on every fucking computer anyway, nevermind
[QUOTE=karimatrix;53128007]Oh wow, i wonder how much time it will take for people to bypass this block through means of really complicated vpn scheme[B]OH[/B] we got Tor on every fucking computer anyway, nevermind[/QUOTE] It's not gonna go anywhere anyway, our gov is not stupid enough to block a massive part of the internet just to cover for some salty billionaire fuckboy ...right?
I mean, it would suck for Russia if Western bots suddenly started enacting political influence on various social media platforms, so this is totally understandable.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;53128095]Come to think of it, why [I]arent[/I] Western nations doing the same exact social engineering Russia is doing? Its not like meddling in other countries affairs would be anything new to them, after all. Wouldnt it be the ultimate tactic against Putin? Far more effective than sanctions given how easily they can backfire using some simple state held mental gymnastics to make it appear as though Russia dindu nuffin and the West is once again trangressing upon Russias economy or something of the sort.[/QUOTE] I doubt it'd be effective at all, for several reasons. First of all, a complete lack of experience or tactic. Sure, we might be able to mimic the Russian tactics, but then we'd only be copying the parts that are clearly visible, and that'd not be terribly effective. Second, Russia got a huge head-start and we'd have to somehow both have to catch up and overtake, with less leverage, momentum and experience. Third, and this admittedly might border on an arguably racist or antiquated view from the cold war, but I'll give it a shot. Social-media influence is effective against the west because of a culture of forming your own opinion on everything based on information you gather yourself; and that opinion is often seen as 'better' if it's contrary to the 'mainstream', so contrafactual information that opposes common logic hits nice and hard here because people crave it. Russians in general are less inclined to form their opinions in the same way, and are quite content with following what the state tells them through the incredibly well-developed propaganda-machine. They'd be less susceptible to views opposing what they've already been told. [sp]I totally 100% understand if I get a racism ban for saying Russians lack critical sense and independent opinion-making. It's probably outdated and cold-war thinking from my side, but casual observation has indicated it lately.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Riller;53128111]I doubt it'd be effective at all, for several reasons. First of all, a complete lack of experience or tactic. Sure, we might be able to mimic the Russian tactics, but then we'd only be copying the parts that are clearly visible, and that'd not be terribly effective. Second, Russia got a huge head-start and we'd have to somehow both have to catch up and overtake, with less leverage, momentum and experience. Third, and this admittedly might border on an arguably racist or antiquated view from the cold war, but I'll give it a shot. Social-media influence is effective against the west because of a culture of forming your own opinion on everything based on information you gather yourself; and that opinion is often seen as 'better' if it's contrary to the 'mainstream', so contrafactual information that opposes common logic hits nice and hard here because people crave it. Russians in general are less inclined to form their opinions in the same way, and are quite content with following what the state tells them through the incredibly well-developed propaganda-machine. They'd be less susceptible to views opposing what they've already been told. [sp]I totally 100% understand if I get a racism ban for saying Russians lack critical sense and independent opinion-making. It's probably outdated and cold-war thinking from my side, but casual observation has indicated it lately.[/sp][/QUOTE] I think it's probably more just fatalism and apathy.
[QUOTE=Riller;53128111]I doubt it'd be effective at all, for several reasons. First of all, a complete lack of experience or tactic. Sure, we might be able to mimic the Russian tactics, but then we'd only be copying the parts that are clearly visible, and that'd not be terribly effective. Second, Russia got a huge head-start and we'd have to somehow both have to catch up and overtake, with less leverage, momentum and experience. Third, and this admittedly might border on an arguably racist or antiquated view from the cold war, but I'll give it a shot. Social-media influence is effective against the west because of a culture of forming your own opinion on everything based on information you gather yourself; and that opinion is often seen as 'better' if it's contrary to the 'mainstream', so contrafactual information that opposes common logic hits nice and hard here because people crave it. Russians in general are less inclined to form their opinions in the same way, and are quite content with following what the state tells them through the incredibly well-developed propaganda-machine. They'd be less susceptible to views opposing what they've already been told. [sp]I totally 100% understand if I get a racism ban for saying Russians lack critical sense and independent opinion-making. It's probably outdated and cold-war thinking from my side, but casual observation has indicated it lately.[/sp][/QUOTE] This is such a retarded leap of logic in the wrong direction. Most Russians who are of sound mind (we will drop old people who masturbate to Putin) simply do not care about politics that much due to being critical of everything with the government. If your biggest worry is about having a stable enough income to live comfortably with your wife and or kids and you struggle with that , while most of the government-aligned services are corrupted and just dont work, you will never want to hear anything good or bad about politics, just live your own life with as little problems as possible. It might work with younger generation that is very aware of shit state their country is, but unfortunately a vocal majority are still those old people who saw good in USSR which is why Putin is revered. He offered at least SOME stability.
China has the great firewall, what will be our metaphor for Russia, the Iron Fire-curtain?
[QUOTE=proboardslol;53128263]China has the great firewall, what will be our metaphor for Russia, the Iron Fire-curtain?[/QUOTE] The vodka blur
[QUOTE=Mingebox;53128168]I think it's probably more just fatalism and apathy.[/QUOTE] Yeah, you can see it a lot in documentaries and the like which interview Russians. When asked about politics, so often you just see them say that they ignore politics and that no good comes from paying attention to it. Even with how much they're suffering under the sanctions brought on by Putin, and just the general stagnation, you're unlikely to see much happen as long as Putin is alive and things are held stable.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;53128263]China has the great firewall, what will be our metaphor for Russia, the Iron Fire-curtain?[/QUOTE] !Siberia
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.