Right-wing media uses Parkland shooting as conspiracy fodder
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[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/business/media/parkland-shooting-media-conspiracy.html[/url]
[quote]The teenagers of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., who a week ago lost 17 of their classmates and school staff members in a mass shooting, have emerged as passionate advocates for reform, speaking openly of their anger in the hope of forcing a reckoning on guns.
But in certain right-wing corners of the web — and, increasingly, from more mainstream voices like Rush Limbaugh and a commentator on CNN — the students are being portrayed not as grief-ridden survivors but as pawns and conspiracists intent on exploiting a tragedy to undermine the nation’s laws.
In these baseless accounts, which by Tuesday had spread rapidly on social media, the students are described as “crisis actors,” who travel to the sites of shootings to instigate fury against guns. Or they are called F.B.I. plants, defending the bureau for its failure to catch the shooter. They have been portrayed as puppets being coached and manipulated by the Democratic Party, gun control activists, the so-called antifa movement and the left-wing billionaire George Soros.[/quote]
The current working theory is that George Soros, knowing that mass shootings in the USA always lead to major policy changes, hired crisis actors to capitalise on his false-flag attack - but also one of the kids' dads used to be in the FBI so they're probably trying to overthrow Trump or something as well.
how much money does soros have, man's spending so much on the leftist agenda™ he and the rest of the illuminati should be broke as fuck by now
[QUOTE=myon;53149165]how much money does soros have, man's spending so much on the leftist agenda™ he and the rest of the illuminati should be broke as fuck by now[/QUOTE]
Especially since myself and most of the other posters I've talked to on FP have gotten big raises from him this year, he must be loaded
I'm getting flashbacks to the conspiracy theorists surrounding Sandy Hook. Fuck off with this.
Yknow I'm not a big advocate for expanding gun control but the fact that this conspiracy shit keeps happening makes me question the maturity of some pro gun folks. Wanna be careful and make the point that I'm not referring to everyone but people who think like this are nuts.
I think the interesting thing is that this has the opposite effect, at least on my Facebook feed. A majority of my friends are falling for this (as well as previous shootings) but think it's something along the lines of Trump trying to instill fear in people and control them.
So according to these people, my cousin is a crisis actor? This is just disgusting.
[QUOTE=Trusted;53149198]So according to these people, my cousin is a crisis actor? This is just disgusting.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to what the parents of the children from the Sandy Hook massacre have to go through. :frown: Dealing with the grief [I]and[/I] being called a treacherous liar.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;53149205]Welcome to what the parents of the children from the Sandy Hook massacre have to go through. :frown: Dealing with the grief [I]and[/I] being called a treacherous liar.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but back then it was known wack jobs like Alex Jones. Now it's mainstream right-wing rhetoric.
Where there is tragedy, there are people reluctant to accept it.
Maybe it's a coping mechanism, an inability to deal with the sheer awfulness of what happened.
This sort of thing will happen with any publicized crisis or devastating event.
[QUOTE=Zombinie;53149254]Where there is tragedy, there are people reluctant to accept it.
Maybe it's a coping mechanism, an inability to deal with the sheer awfulness of what happened.
This sort of thing will happen with any publicized crisis or devastating event.[/QUOTE]
Odds on these people couldn't give a shit about the people and are so far into their delusion that they'll correlate any fact that pops into their head that supports their rhetoric and use that in their echo-chambers to reinforce their mindsets. Eventually it spreads out as apparent here.
They don't care about the facts, they care about being right, regardless of if they are and anything they can twist to fit that goal they will.
This is fucking disgusting on so many levels.
I'm a crisis actor but my real passion is to crisis direct.
Wouldn't the conspiracy make sense if it claimed that the kids were actually killed but the shooter was planted by the govt?
Where do they think these children... go? "Away"?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;53149208]Yeah but back then it was known wack jobs like Alex Jones. Now it's mainstream right-wing rhetoric.[/QUOTE]
an inevitable consequence of voting a man who gets his news from INFOWARS into power
Tucker Carlson was pushing this conspiracy on his show [URL="http://www.newsweek.com/florida-shooting-tucker-carlson-814418"]last night[/URL]. Second highest ratings on the network with the most ratings :dogwow:
It's funny how some people challenge the established story on extremely shaky evidence, then go around and decide that their story is 100% true despite how much less logical and supported it is than the original story.
I'm all for keeping your views open to be challenged, hell, there's 0.00000000001% of me thats open to the idea that the world is flat.
But when you start assuming your theory is true, it isn't really a conspiracy theory anymore, it's just an "alternative fact" that almost everyone disagrees with and has few if any pieces of evidence to support it.
[QUOTE=Zombinie;53149254]Where there is tragedy, there are people reluctant to accept it.
Maybe it's a coping mechanism, an inability to deal with the sheer awfulness of what happened.
This sort of thing will happen with any publicized crisis or devastating event.[/QUOTE]
This isn't people coping though it's an organized attack against the credibility of children [I]who were just shot at[/I].
[QUOTE=myon;53149165]how much money does soros have, man's spending so much on the leftist agenda™ he and the rest of the illuminati should be broke as fuck by now[/QUOTE]
You'd think George Soros would just use his infinite money to buy the entire world instead of staging these dumb plans...
Fucking, [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1393670"]I remember making this thread after Sandy Hook.[/URL]
Don't make me make another one, Internet. Keep it in your fucking pants this time, for the love of human decency.
Literally on par with Westboro Baptist Church.
Fucking disgusting assholes have nothing better to do in their lives.
If the students are actors brought in, wouldn't the real students call shenanigans, knowing the "actors" are not students? :thinking: Or does Soros pay off/threaten the school, students, and parents? Does the school even exist? Are there crisis actor sleeper cell kids in every school in America or something? [I]"Hmm, ratings are down George, seems about time for another shooting don't you think? Who should we activate this time?"[/I]
I think Occam's Razor applies here.
[QUOTE=OvB;53149692]If the students are actors brought in, wouldn't the real students call shenanigans, knowing the "actors" are not students? :thinking: Or does Soros pay off/threaten the school, students, and parents? Does the school even exist? Are there crisis actor sleeper cell kids in every school in America or something? [I]"Hmm, ratings are down George, seems about time for another shooting don't you think? Who should we activate this time?"[/I]
I think Occam's Razor applies here.[/QUOTE]
if the people that believed in conspiracy theories had the capacity to think critically, there wouldn't be any conspiracy theories
[QUOTE=OvB;53149692]If the students are actors brought in, wouldn't the real students call shenanigans, knowing the "actors" are not students? :thinking: Or does Soros pay off/threaten the school, students, and parents? Does the school even exist? Are there crisis actor sleeper cell kids in every school in America or something? [I]"Hmm, ratings are down George, seems about time for another shooting don't you think? Who should we activate this time?"[/I]
I think Occam's Razor applies here.[/QUOTE]
Once again I'm shocked that conspiracy theorists don't apply occam's razor to their own crazy theories. If the liberal cloud people that secretly control everything wanted to stage a false-flag school shooting to draw up terror, wouldn't it be [i]way[/i] simpler to just make the one student [i]actually[/i] shoot a bunch of kids? Why does there have to be a complex network of "crisis actors" that would just create loose ends and require training dozens of actors and conspirators to be expert-level performance artists for several months (most of these actors would be teenagers too, and teenagers typically aren't great actors to begin with), when it would be so much easier to just kill some innocent bystanders?
I mean whoever's supposedly behind all these fake shootings and phony terrorist attacks is evil, right? So why put in all the extra work and turn it into a hokey Bond villain scheme? Conspiracy theorists completely baffle me with their overactive imaginations.
So the left orchestrated an attack to promote gun control but did so in a way that caused the right to place the FBI under a microscope? Obviously the Deep State would endanger its plan to oust a completely legitimate president just so they could ban guns.
I don't want to lump entire groups together, but these completely insane conspiracy theories always crop up from one side and it's getting really exhausting.
Usually my Facebook feed is clean from shit like this, but it's creeping around for me now too and it's honestly pissing me off.
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"I have no credible sources, but I found it on the internet, which doesn't have credible sources(?), but I just wanted to put that out there, even if it's not a fact."
This is how misinformation is spread. No facts. No sources. Just "putting it out there", with nothing to back it up, into a volatile rumor mill like Facebook. What an irresponsible moron.
I unfriended a child hood friend today because he was spreading that bullshit. I knew he voted for Trump, and I tolerated that, but this just showed how awful a person he became.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;53149208]Yeah but back then it was known wack jobs like Alex Jones. Now it's mainstream right-wing rhetoric.[/QUOTE]
In 2018 the line between Alex Jones and Mainstream Right-Wing Rhetoric is pretty fuzzy.
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