• Black Lives Matter Shuts Down ACLU Event: ‘Liberalism Is White Supremacy’
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[quote]Black Lives Matter protesters at Virginia’s College of William & Mary stormed the stage at an American Civil Liberties Union-sponsored event last week to criticize the organization’s stance on the Charlottesville unrest. The “Students and the First Amendment” event, co-sponsored by Alma Mater Productions and the ACLU, was interrupted Wednesday, Sept. 27, when protesters took over the stage less than five minutes after ACLU of Virginia executive director Claire Guthrie Gastañaga’s entrance, campus paper The Flat Hat reported. The students’ protest came in response to the ACLU’s defense of white supremacists’ right to free speech in the wake of the Charlottesville violence that left one woman dead and 19 others badly injured. The group’s stance on the matter drew backlash from supporters and detractors alike. “Liberalism is white supremacy!” the protesters shouted with signs in hand. “The revolution will not uphold the Constitution.” Demonstrators also carried a banner that read “Blood on Your Hands” and chanted “A-C-L-U, you’d protect Hitler too!” as they formed a line blocking the stage. The group live streamed the protest on its Facebook page. After about 20 minutes of chanting, AMP Director of Internal Affairs Hasini Bandara offered the protesters a microphone, which a spokesperson used to denounce the ACLU’s support of the First Amendment rights of white supremacists, and suggest that the organization is providing them an unnecessary platform, the newspaper reported. “When is the free speech of the oppressed protected?” a BLM group representative asked the crowd. “We know from personal experience that rights granted to wealthy, white, cis, male, straight bodies do not trickle down to marginalized groups. We face greater barriers and consequences for speaking.” The chanting continued after the representative took their place back in line, forcing organizers to cancel the event. “It was a collective decision from people in the AMP leadership team and our advisers,” AMP director Miguel Dayan told The Flat Hat. “It was clear we [were] unable to continue with the event, and it was appropriate to cancel.” William & Mary College President Taylor Reveley issued a statement following the protest criticizing demonstrators for shutting down the event and attempting to drown out students who had gathered to ask Gastañaga questions after the cancellation was announced.[/quote] [url]http://atlantablackstar.com/2017/10/05/black-lives-matter-shuts-aclu-event-liberalism-white-supremacy/[/url] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2-XCkUZsuw[/media]
Well I mean they probably would have if Hitler were an American citizen, considering the ACLU protects the rights of ALL Americans. I don't think these protestors actually know what the ACLU does.
Glad this isn't shit i'll have to deal with just yet. It's like a 'no nuance allowed' gang.
BLM, you [B]ARE LIBERALS[/B] did they really say this though? :v:
thought process: Many liberals are white. That means liberalism is white supremacy. It must be destroyed.
I honestly have no idea what's real and whats a joke anymore. 2017 is getting weirder and weirder as time goes on.
ACLU of all the things they can protest against? Really?
BLM is left wing but I dunno if I would call them liberals. That's like calling antifa or communists liberals.
(man/woman)-Children who've never faced real adversity in their lives. Simple as that.
Almost as if there are more than one kind of liberal instead of one gigantic blanket group. It's a spectrum of ideology, not just a switch that goes "left" or "right"
Your biggest enemies are those who are the most different from you, and those who are most similar to you.
It's probably because the ACLU may have picked up hate speech crimes and defended them as free speech violations. I guess the rest is just supposed to be white guilt or something. "Blood on our Hands"
[QUOTE]The students’ protest came in response to the ACLU’s defense of white supremacists’ right to free speech in the wake of the Charlottesville violence that left one woman dead and 19 others badly injured. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I don't like Nazi's either but unfortunately they can still say whatever they want within the rights given to them by the First Amendment. I'm sure the ACLU really didn't want to defend white supremacists, but unfortunately, the First Amendment is pretty clear. And, y'know, the ACLU defends civil liberties.
[QUOTE=New Cidem;52766686]Almost as if there are more than one kind of liberal instead of one gigantic blanket group. It's a spectrum of ideology, not just a switch that goes "left" or "right"[/QUOTE] Being a 'liberal' doesn't have much to do with left and right anyway. Liberalism is more identifiable by it's particular defining values than anything. In that sense, the protestors' anger isn't misplaced. They're going after who they want to go after. More rigid leftists have a bone to pick with liberals that seemingly turn a blind eye to violent conflict in the interest of bourgeois matters. Whether or not they're a wise target to aim their sights at is another matter entirely.
[QUOTE=Adelle Zhu;52766704]It's probably because the ACLU may have picked up hate speech crimes and defended them as free speech violations.[/QUOTE] That's entirely what this is. This is a reactionary event acted out by an extremely small group of misguided people, which is exactly the kind of thing certain nationalists love to pick up on and blow out of proportion in order to victimize themselves and demonize their enemies because they're incapable of putting forward a genuine argument.
I'm so confused, BLM came from liberalism didn't it? And now they are distancing themselves from it? Is socialism their final choice of doctrine?
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;52766726]I'm so confused, BLM came from liberalism didn't it? And now they are distancing themselves from it? Is socialism their final choice of doctrine?[/QUOTE] BLM still isn't an organization and holds no actual political stance besides the furthering of African American rights.
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;52766726]I'm so confused, BLM came from liberalism didn't it? And now they are distancing themselves from it? Is socialism their final choice of doctrine?[/QUOTE] Finding things to get perpetually mad at doesn't really need to be defined by an ideology.
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;52766726]I'm so confused, BLM came from liberalism didn't it? And now they are distancing themselves from it? Is socialism their final choice of doctrine?[/QUOTE] BLM naturally aligns with ideals traditionally associated with the left, but doesn't have any explicit political affiliation other than with values that advance their goals and agenda.
I found the ACLU's statement on Charleston to be puzzling myself but this is absolutely not the way to go about criticizing it. [QUOTE=New Cidem;52766686]Almost as if there are more than one kind of liberal instead of one gigantic blanket group. It's a spectrum of ideology, not just a switch that goes "left" or "right"[/QUOTE] Even at its farthest left, I don't think liberal ideology leaves much room for statements like [QUOTE]“The revolution will not uphold the Constitution.”[/QUOTE] The fact that some BLM cells are joining other far-left groups in driving a wedge between their ideology and American liberals leads me to believe that they would be insulted to them.
[quote]“When is the free speech of the oppressed protected?” a BLM group representative asked the crowd. “We know from personal experience that rights granted to wealthy, white, cis, male, straight bodies do not trickle down to marginalized groups. We face greater barriers and consequences for speaking.”[/quote] So you storm a stage at an ACLU event, start chanting and protesting, aren't immediately kicked out for your bullshittery, and are handed a microphone to speak your piece, and you start with "I have no right to free speech!"? Yea ok bud.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52766833]So you storm a stage at an ACLU event, start chanting and protesting, aren't immediately kicked out for your bullshittery, and are handed a microphone to speak your piece, and you start with "I have no right to free speech!"? Yea ok bud.[/QUOTE] I found that statement to be somewhat puzzling too, but I think you're misrepresenting what they're trying to say. I don't think they're saying "We have no right to free speech", but rather, "Our speech is often marginalized and goes unheard because of our race".
[QUOTE=Duck M.;52766861]I found that statement to be somewhat puzzling too, but I think you're misrepresenting what they're trying to say. I don't think they're saying "We have no right to free speech", but rather, "Our speech is often marginalized and goes unheard because of our race".[/QUOTE] I agree with you, but I also think they should've actually said that second thing, not the first thing.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52766563]BLM, you [B]ARE LIBERALS[/B] did they really say this though? :v:[/QUOTE] somehow i doubt the people protesting liberals are liberals themselves
I wonder if libretarianism is white supremacy too am I white supremacy? [QUOTE=Nautsabes;52767020]somehow i doubt the people protesting liberals are liberals themselves[/QUOTE] BLM is very much a not smart group so I wouldn't skip out on your doubts
[QUOTE=Nautsabes;52767020]somehow i doubt the people protesting liberals are liberals themselves[/QUOTE] liberals arent a uniform blob. A lot are leftists anyways who use "liberal" as a word for moderate/centrist.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;52766861]I found that statement to be somewhat puzzling too, but I think you're misrepresenting what they're trying to say. I don't think they're saying "We have no right to free speech", but rather, "Our speech is often marginalized and goes unheard because of our race".[/QUOTE] [quote]AMP Director of Internal Affairs Hasini Bandara offered the protesters a microphone[/quote] I mean, they were offered a microphone to voice their concerns at an ACLU event. Sure minority voices have been marginalized and suppressed in the past but to say that happens today? Highly doubtful. BLM's reception has been marginalized because of it's ineptitude, blind fanaticism, wanting cops dead, and their methods of protest. Nobody will sympathize with a group that blocks highways with their protesting.
yeah FUCK civil liberties haha gotteem I would have thought this was a "disrupt now, figure out a reason for it later" kind of deal but apparently not, they had signs and slogans ready :huh:
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52767068]liberals arent a uniform blob. A lot are leftists anyways who use "liberal" as a word for moderate/centrist.[/QUOTE] thats what i was getting at
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52767071]I mean, they were offered a microphone to voice their concerns at an ACLU event. Sure minority voices have been marginalized and suppressed in the past but to say that happens today? Highly doubtful. BLM's reception has been marginalized because of it's ineptitude, blind fanaticism, wanting cops dead, and their methods of protest. Nobody will sympathize with a group that blocks highways with their protesting.[/QUOTE] They're quite obviously speaking on far more generalized terms than the specific instance of them at this event. Their representation at this event (and the reception of BLM as a whole for that matter) and the representation of Black Americans as a whole are two entirely separate matters.
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