Mexico creates vast new ocean reserve to protect 'Galapagos of North America' - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote]Mexico’s government has created the [B]largest ocean reserve in North America[/B] around a Pacific archipelago regarded as its crown jewel. The measures will help ensure the conservation of marine creatures including whales, giant rays and turtles. The protection zone [B]spans 57,000 sq miles (150,000 sq km) around the Revillagigedo islands[/B], which lie 242 miles (390 km) south-west of the Baja California peninsula. Mexico’s president, Enrique Peña Nieto, announced the decision in a decree that [B]also bans mining and the construction of new hotels[/B] on the islands. --- Just 6% of the global ocean has been set aside as marine protected areas or been earmarked for future protection. Mexico joins Chile, New Zealand and Tahiti in taking recent steps to preserve the ecological systems in their territorial waters. Conversely, President Trump is considering shrinking two marine national monuments in the Pacific: Rose Atoll and the Pacific Remote Islands.[/quote] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/25/mexico-creates-vast-new-ocean-reserve-to-protect-galapagos-of-north-america[/url]

how amazing that literally the rest of the world except the US is cooperating on shit like this regardless of what you think about climate change this shows the objective flaw in US politics

Amazing that countries with GDP's that measure fractions of the US's are willing to and are doing more to help save the climate than one of, if not the most powerful economic power in the world.

That's fine and dandy, and I'm happy for it... but what about the rest of Mexico's problems?

[QUOTE=Robman8908;52925869]That's fine and dandy, and I'm happy for it... but what about the rest of Mexico's problems?[/QUOTE] They are completely irrelevant to the matter at hand

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;52925873]They are completely irrelevant to the matter at hand[/QUOTE] How so? I'm just saying there are a ton of problems in Mexico, and literally said I'm happy they're doing this (guess most didn't read that part), but some other matters should have a higher priority (for now). How can they keep trying to help with the planet's problems if they end up falling to themselves?

[QUOTE=Robman8908;52925869]That's fine and dandy, and I'm happy for it... but what about the rest of Mexico's problems?[/QUOTE] You're implying that the entire government of Mexico, for some really weird reason, devotes 100% of its time to doing one task and one task only, at the detriment of everything else. To answer your question: what about them? Why do they matter? The news article isn't about them.

[QUOTE=Robman8908;52925869]That's fine and dandy, and I'm happy for it... but what about the rest of Mexico's problems?[/QUOTE] I don't think it's fair at all to insinuate that Mexico is spending too much on environmental conservation. Especially when the US allocates hundreds billions of dollars yearly towards its mostly unnecessary military expenditure rather than pushing that money towards solving the multitudes of societal, logistical and political problems that afflict our country today including but not limited to: homelessness, welfare/social safety net programs, the lack of clean water availability, disaster recovery efforts, all the other underfunded federal social programs, the education system, mitigation of climate change and ecological conservation efforts. The amount of money that goes into our military could vastly speed up the efficiency and scope of these programs. Mexico should not be shamed for spending a relatively small amount of money and effort towards making a better world, it's not as if they're completely overlooking their internal conflicts in lieu of this.

[QUOTE=Blind Lulu;52925902]wow dude nice job making this post... but what about all those homeless people you could have been feeding instead[/QUOTE] Done quite a bit of voluntary work, a lot of it with helping the homeless, but okay. I don't get why everyone is blowing my post out of proportion. Once again, I also said I'm happy they're doing this. But whatevs. Done posting about it, so carry on.

[QUOTE=Robman8908;52925869]That's fine and dandy, and I'm happy for it... but what about the rest of Mexico's problems?[/QUOTE] That's also fine and dandy, but what about the steady danger of the Earth being hit by a giant meteor?

[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;52925894]You're implying that the entire government of Mexico, for some really weird reason, devotes 100% of its time to doing one task and one task only, at the detriment of everything else.[/QUOTE] People who think that way bother me because they're so prevalent this day and age. Anytime a problem is approached, it's to be expected to get a small loud mass to yell about how those resources and that effort could have been used to solve x and y, without thinking that anything between organizations to governments are compromised of several people, often several groups with varied expertises. [editline]27th November 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Robman8908;52925914]Done quite a bit of voluntary work, a lot of it with helping the homeless, but okay. I don't get why everyone is blowing my post out of proportion. Once again, I also said I'm happy they're doing this. But whatevs. Done posting about it, so carry on.[/QUOTE] People are hopping on your post because it seems to most of us it was made without even thinking for just a minute. Hopefully you realize why it was a objectively stupid thing to say.

[QUOTE=Robman8908;52925869]That's fine and dandy, and I'm happy for it... but what about the rest of Mexico's problems?[/QUOTE] This being one of the worst posts i've read in a while aside- If the biosphere collapses, any problem mexico currently has is going to seem like the fucking good old days.

[QUOTE=Robman8908;52925892]Some other matters should have a higher priority (for now). How can they keep trying to help with the planet's problems if they end up falling to themselves?[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand just how urgent and important it is to take care of the environment right now.

[QUOTE=J!NX;52925682]how amazing that literally the rest of the world except the US is cooperating on shit like this regardless of what you think about climate change this shows the objective flaw in US politics[/QUOTE] Except we literally expanded our largest one last year, in addition to creating the first in the North Atlantic. Although, under two Executive Orders signed by Trump in late April, they are on the chopping block for some of their protections, their monument status, or to be downsized. However, with the amount of public outcry during the public comments portion of the process, I’m not sure if we’re going to lose the monuments.

[QUOTE=Robman8908;52925869]That's fine and dandy, and I'm happy for it... but what about the rest of Mexico's problems?[/QUOTE] Some problems are easier to solve than others. Some problems have a reasonable amount of downtime where many people can't really contribute too much to the process so rather than do nothing they can try and solve other problems.

[QUOTE=Robman8908;52925914]Done quite a bit of voluntary work, a lot of it with helping the homeless, but okay. I don't get why everyone is blowing my post out of proportion. Once again, I also said I'm happy they're doing this. But whatevs. Done posting about it, so carry on.[/QUOTE] Okay but, [I]what about all the voluntary work you're not doing [B]right now[/B]?[/I]

[QUOTE=Robman8908;52925892]How so? I'm just saying there are a ton of problems in Mexico, and literally said I'm happy they're doing this (guess most didn't read that part), but some other matters should have a higher priority (for now). How can they keep trying to help with the planet's problems if they end up falling to themselves?[/QUOTE] And? Every place has problems and could use improvement. Doesn't mean you have to have a one-track mind, countries can do multiple things at once.

Curious to see how effectively Mexico enforces this. Making ocean reserves is as easy as saying this area is now an ocean reserve. What matters is how serious the nations enforcement is. See: Australian whale sanctuary It says the Navy is going to enforce it, but if they're not willing to actually enforce it when it's violated, this all means nothing.